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Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:59 PM Oct 2021

DeSantis announced today that there would be no vaccine mandates in schools....NONE!





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Regeneron shill Ron DeSantis announced today that there would be no vaccine mandates in schools

The following are about to mount a raging comeback:
Mumps
Polio
Smallpox
Rubella
Hep B
HPV
Diphtheria

His no vaccine mandate policy will render Florida the killing fields of America
5:01 PM · Oct 31, 2021 from Philadelphia, PA
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DeSantis announced today that there would be no vaccine mandates in schools....NONE! (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
If someone would bring a suit he would lose! PortTack Nov 2021 #1
I'm not sure that our current SC has much regard for precedent. Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #14
You left measles off the list MiniMe Nov 2021 #2
I have family living there with kids in school. DURHAM D Nov 2021 #3
This is sentencing children to death...pure insanity spanone Nov 2021 #4
"This is a decision that belongs to parents." moondust Nov 2021 #5
if you have school-aged children, it is time to get the hell out of shithole Florida Celerity Nov 2021 #6
The Florida cemeteries will be filled with the graves of children, just like they were before liberal_mama Nov 2021 #7
The Florida tourism industry can promote Third World Tourism adventures. tanyev Nov 2021 #8
Sane people won't even want to visit Florida, once there is all those outbreaks going on! liberal_mama Nov 2021 #9
This is only referring to the Covid vaccine obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #10
I believe that quote is taken out of context. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #11
It was obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #12
I wish they wouldn't overstate their case. Smallpox is eradicated, and we haven't vaccinated Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #13
This.Is.Not.True. obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #15
Yes, I saw that. Even if it were true, the OP would still be inaccurate. Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #16
Why spread outright drexelkathy Nov 2021 #17
Ihope you'll do a little research and self-delete. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #18

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
1. If someone would bring a suit he would lose!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:02 AM
Nov 2021

SCOTUS 1905 precedent...Jacobson vs Massachusetts

“The rights of the individual do not outweigh the rights of many when it comes to public health.”

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
14. I'm not sure that our current SC has much regard for precedent.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:07 PM
Nov 2021

I wouldn't count on them for anything at this point.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
3. I have family living there with kids in school.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:12 AM
Nov 2021

They have been thinking about moving for awhile. This will likely get them moving inland.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
5. "This is a decision that belongs to parents."
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 01:41 AM
Nov 2021

That's just fine, Ronbo, as long as those children whose parents have refused to have them vaccinated NEVER LEAVE HOME where they may endanger the public.

It's unbelievable that the so-called "governor" of any U.S. state would not understand his/her duty to do everything within his/her power to protect and defend the public's health. "Serving the people" does not include needlessly endangering them with potentially fatal consequences.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
7. The Florida cemeteries will be filled with the graves of children, just like they were before
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 04:12 AM
Nov 2021

vaccinations. DeSantis is out of his mind! Kids will be dying of measles and whooping cough again!

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
9. Sane people won't even want to visit Florida, once there is all those outbreaks going on!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:30 PM
Nov 2021

The anti-vaxxers will love this as a lot of them don't want to vaccinate their kids for anything.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
10. This is only referring to the Covid vaccine
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:44 PM
Nov 2021

Which is bad enough, but this tweet saying all vax are not mandated is false. I live here, and what DeSantis does is bad enough without spreading incorrect info.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
11. I believe that quote is taken out of context.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:47 PM
Nov 2021

It seems clear to me that he is referring only to the COVID vaccine. He referenced (paraphrasing) "that's what was in the law that was passed recently."

Florida has not passed a new law recently - but there was a September threat to review the currently mandated vaccines, spearheaded by Republican Manny Diaz.

Diaz's most recent comment:

But in a statement to Florida Politics on Friday, Diaz said: “I in no way, shape, or form intend to change the existing vaccination statutes for Florida schoolchildren.”

Diaz made it clear that he remains firmly opposed to mandates associated with COVID-19 vaccines: “However, I will stand on the side of freedom and the state retaining its power to review any emergency vaccination use imposed by the federal government.”


https://floridapolitics.com/archives/460306-after-firestorm-manny-diaz-wont-review-school-vaccine-mandates/

DeSantis is bad, but we need to be accurate about the specific ways he is bad or we lose the high ground in which alternative facts are just lies.

#truthmatters

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
12. It was
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:59 PM
Nov 2021

I live here in SOFL, and he meant only the Covid vax.

The OP needs to delete -- this is literally fake news.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
13. I wish they wouldn't overstate their case. Smallpox is eradicated, and we haven't vaccinated
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:05 PM
Nov 2021

against it since the early 70s. Hep B doesn't circulate widely or easily among school children, and HPV mostly manifests as cervical cancer in sexually active adult women.

They are very likely to see a resurgence in measles and chickenpox, and probably babies born affected by rubella. Probably increases in pertussis amongst babies and young children for whom it's a serious illness. Maybe see more cases of kids with tetanus, if Florida parents begin completely rejecting vaccination en masse.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes diphtheria and polio to make a comeback.

This likely won't stay confined to Florida, but may become the new big thing in multiple red states. Eventually the South will reemerge as a plague pit.

Anyone with kids would be well advised to avoid that region, as vaccinated kids are still vulnerable. If not enough people are vaccinated, you lose herd immunity, and will start seeing outbreaks that affect everyone.

drexelkathy

(118 posts)
17. Why spread outright
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:14 PM
Nov 2021

lies?

He's not banning vaccines. He banned mandating the Covid vaccine.



And FYI - the last regularly given smallpox vaccine in the US was 1972...and HPV is not a mandatory vaccine for school-aged children and I do not believe it is even required to attend a university.



Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
18. Ihope you'll do a little research and self-delete.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:28 PM
Nov 2021

This statement refers exclusively to COVID 19 mandates, not other vaccine mandates.

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