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All who were involved in the attempted coup should be expelled (Original Post) 634-5789 Nov 2021 OP
Agreed! Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #1
She's right, True Dough Nov 2021 #2
Preach it, sister! Nt raccoon Nov 2021 #3
Expelled and then tried for conspiracy Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #4
+ 100 I totally agree. nt abqtommy Nov 2021 #5
It needs every Democratic lawmaker to yell it from the rooftops. Doodley Nov 2021 #6
How do we get from here to there? bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #7
I'd go beyond that to include Harker Nov 2021 #8
The white-washers appear to be every reQublicOn who KS Toronado Nov 2021 #21
Yes... lots of empty seats. Harker Nov 2021 #23
Absolutely! 2naSalit Nov 2021 #9
In a lame duck session bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #10
Let me make this pellucidly clear malaise Nov 2021 #11
indeed. I don't think Garland is up to it though. We'll see what the Committee concludes sometime Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #17
So glad you wrote this malaise Nov 2021 #18
I'm losing faith Malaise. This coup is so blatantly obvious and it seems as if the nation, and most Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #24
What I find even more disturbing is the way M$Greedia continues to malaise Nov 2021 #26
truth Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #12
... weren't a dozen congress men removed after the civil war... nebby70 Nov 2021 #13
Great questions. It seems the 1/6 Commission is the only hope, but I have a bad feeling nothing Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #15
But instead...a sternly worded letter will probably have to suffice. MiHale Nov 2021 #14
SHOULD is the operative word. blueinredohio Nov 2021 #16
I don't know that we have any laws to support that but it seems a punishment that fits the crime Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #19
there is. used after the civil war. mopinko Nov 2021 #27
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution Danascot Nov 2021 #29
expelled, then tried, and then if need be, executed. Rabrrrrrr Nov 2021 #20
AOC can introduce the resolution anytime she wants. brooklynite Nov 2021 #22
If this was the message of the media instead of their mealy-mouthed both sider bullshit Mr. Ected Nov 2021 #25
The House can do this RIGHT NOW FakeNoose Nov 2021 #30

Doodley

(9,093 posts)
6. It needs every Democratic lawmaker to yell it from the rooftops.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:53 AM
Nov 2021

And keep yelling it until election day, just as Trump yelled "Emails, emails, emails, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi."

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
21. The white-washers appear to be every reQublicOn who
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:56 AM
Nov 2021

voted against impeachment & Jan 6th committee and those who still support the BIG LIE & Der orange Fuhrer.
Almost the entire R party, we need some good catchphrases for them going into the midterms........
"Whitewashers Lie", "Socialism over Fascism", any ideas?

Harker

(14,024 posts)
23. Yes... lots of empty seats.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:12 AM
Nov 2021

It's not particularly catchy, but I sometimes think of them as the "amoral minority."

Maybe, "murderous, depraved, seditious, hypocritical whiners?"

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
10. In a lame duck session
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:27 AM
Nov 2021

of Congress, where the majority would become the minority in the next Congress, could the majority expel traitors permanently and thus maintain its majority status in the next Congress until and unless those seats were filled by special election or appointments?

I would say yes to that, and I'm sure Republicans would have no hesitation in exercising that right if the shoe were on the other foot.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
11. Let me make this pellucidly clear
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:37 AM
Nov 2021

It was a failed coup, not an attempted coup. The institutions held firm. Consequences must be severe and even more so for those who took the oath of office.

I am profoundly against the death penalty, but I am having second thoughts about punishment for their dear leader.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
17. indeed. I don't think Garland is up to it though. We'll see what the Committee concludes sometime
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:31 AM
Nov 2021

year? Then it's up to DOJ.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
18. So glad you wrote this
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:38 AM
Nov 2021

We'll see what the Committee concludes sometime (this or next) year? Then it's up to DOJ.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
24. I'm losing faith Malaise. This coup is so blatantly obvious and it seems as if the nation, and most
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:14 AM
Nov 2021

of the media is just oblivious. In GOP's case of course, it's intentional because they know that handled better, it would have succeeded. The moment demands accountability, not just a "report" like after 9-11 where the war machine got to do whatever the hell they wanted to. Real accountability means indictments, strong prosecution and penalties that provide a real deterrent for this ever happening again. The penalties so far are not deterrents.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
26. What I find even more disturbing is the way M$Greedia continues to
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:19 AM
Nov 2021

repeat his lies and accusations. At what point do they stop giving him and his cronies airtime?

Response to 634-5789 (Original post)

nebby70

(471 posts)
13. ... weren't a dozen congress men removed after the civil war...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:13 AM
Nov 2021

... because they supported the confederacy and refused to recognize Lincoln as president????....

... maybe I need more coffee -- but how is 1/6 and this stuff different???

(okay, there's no backbones available in DC anymore; but other than that????)

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
15. Great questions. It seems the 1/6 Commission is the only hope, but I have a bad feeling nothing
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:28 AM
Nov 2021

will be done with the FBI/ DOJ we have. Hope I'm wrong.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
19. I don't know that we have any laws to support that but it seems a punishment that fits the crime
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:42 AM
Nov 2021

But I think a long prison sentence would be appropriate. I also think there should be some sort of law passed that prevents them from being able to receive a pardon for this particular crime.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
29. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:02 PM
Nov 2021
Likewise, Representative Cori Bush of Missouri said on Twitter that the House must “investigate and expel members of Congress who helped incite the deadly insurrection on our Capitol.”

Bush had actually introduced a House resolution for this purpose just days after the attack. “There is no place in the people’s House for these heinous actions,” she said at the time, referring to “members who attempted to disenfranchise voters and incited this violence.”

“I firmly believe,” she went on, “that these members are in breach of their sworn Oath of Office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. They must be held accountable.”

They weren’t. There was simply no appetite, among House leadership, for such drastic and decisive action. There still isn’t. But it was a serious demand, and we should take it seriously.

Bush’s resolution rests on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which cleared Congress in 1866 and was ratified in 1868:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

In plain English, Congress has the power and authority to expel from office any constitutional officer who engages in sedition and takes up arms against the Constitution of the United States.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/opinion/jan-6-congress-republicans.html

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
20. expelled, then tried, and then if need be, executed.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:43 AM
Nov 2021

Treason is the one crime that I still support capital punishment for, as much as I hate it otherwise.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. If this was the message of the media instead of their mealy-mouthed both sider bullshit
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:19 AM
Nov 2021

Perhaps we could avoid another day like January 6th.

The media, not the government and not the people, are driving this conversation, or lack thereof.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
30. The House can do this RIGHT NOW
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:07 PM
Nov 2021

They don't have to wait for Dept. of Justice or the Attorney General.

Do it - expel them now!



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