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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJosh Hawley says more men today are watching porn and playing video games because their masculinity
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Care to share something with us, Joshy?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)that would have to improve by several magnitudes to reach the level of useless.
He is both a failure and an embarrassment to the Senate and the Citizens of the Stare of Missouri.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)I think all this whining and victimhood is whats threatening their masculinity. If they ever had any
malaise
(269,054 posts)then he's better play with those video games and watch porn. No sane woman wants to be hear these monsters
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)🤏🍤🦐
Lovie777
(12,278 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Maybe being a traitorous rightwing asshole isn't very sexy, doofus.
viva la
(3,303 posts)Mean anything about real men.
dlk
(11,569 posts)And has shown hes too immature to be in the senate. He needs to grow up.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, yeah. What is he hiding?
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,172 posts)....
marble falls
(57,106 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)Response to demmiblue (Original post)
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JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)Marching around, waving their Glocks in the air.
multigraincracker
(32,688 posts)Jacket Off Jordan for a hand.
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Needs to get a grip!
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)Whatever, Sen. Little Empty Boy Who Lies . . . .
FSogol
(45,488 posts)Grow the fuck up RW snowflakes.
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)is feeling masculinely inadequate.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)marmar
(77,081 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(2,935 posts)tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)....and "found to be lacking."
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)that the men who are doing this can't get dates because no women want them.
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)Because of social media and the rise of social gaming, males have been withdrawing more into things like video games and pornography. I imagine the pandemic hasn't helped. There are a lot of questions as to why, and there are so many confounding factors, it's hard to really pin down the how and why of it. Probably multi-causal. Hawley asserts it's a cultural thing. But couldn't it be just as easy to say that it could also be strongly correlated to economic circumstances?
https://news.arizona.edu/story/when-masculinity-threatened-men-may-pull-away
That's an article about a study done where men will have more sour and withdrawn relationships the more their masculinity is questioned.
There was a study last year from the University of Alabama (I can only find it in my school's database, so no link), that showed the more men tried to grasp at a masculine identity or felt theirs diminished, the more problematic pornography became for them.
I don't know why people are making fun. Yeah, it's Hawley, but psychologists in peer reviewed journals are taking the topic seriously.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)And show no mercy.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Joshy: How do you feel about your mother? Was she overly critical? Hmmmm?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)hunter
(38,317 posts)Anyone who tries to conform to those ideals is going to be twisted, and their ability to form and maintain ordinary human relationships damaged.
Every child deserves a Fairy Godmother Nanny of the Twix Halloween commercial, even the straight vanilla kids, someone who will defend them as they are, not forcing them into any specific gender rolls, never saying "boys don't do that" or "girls don't do this."
Part of the psychopathy of guys like Donald Trump or Rush Limbaugh is the culture of conservative masculinity that was literally beaten into them as children.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Incels are part of the MAGA faithful, so its not surprising that Hawley is courting them.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)No one. Not one person of any relevance whatsoever. Has said that MANHOOD is the problem. Manhood (if there is even a concise definition of that concept) is a state of being that encompasses many things.
What people tend to get upset at, is when the concept and idea of "Masculinity" becomes toxic and detrimental, not only to women (though they are by far the worst affected) but to men as well. I share an example from my own life regularly with people, when we have a discussion about this:
When my oldest son was born, in the 90's, I was living near my extended family and we would have family parties regularly. There was always gambling and drinking and the men would be outside playing cards and the women would be inside talking and watching the kids, though by "watching" I mean, not really watching, and allowing us to run around wild. I always viewed my role as a father as doing anything I could to support my children's health, safety, and development. Bathing, changing, feeding, laundry, etc... were all things that I would do as a parent. Well, my uncles, who were more "traditional", would often criticize and mock me for doing, "women's work" to which I always said, "It is PARENT'S work".
Their attitude was toxic. Separating work into "men's" and "women's" and devaluing women's work as beneath men's. Like I said, first of all, there is nothing inherently "men's" or "women's" about raising a child. There are certain things that men, physiologically cannot do (like breast feed), but we can warm up milk or formula, we can prepare a bottle and feed our children. We can wash clothes and bathe our children, while the mom goes and works on the car. The problem is when you say, "women CAN'T do that..." because of tradition. Or, "women have to do that..." and that work is devalued. That is part of toxic masculinity. Discrimination and devaluing of roles based on some kind of gender tradition.
It isn't MANHOOD that is the problem. It is idiots like Hawley who promised young White men, that they would be on the top of the pyramid, but failing to deliver because their promise was hollow to begin with. It isn't feminism or "snowflake society" that has cheated these men and made them feel alienated. It is the fact that young men are not being taught to be more than the old obsolete stereotypes. Men should be able to like sports and cars, but they should also be able to be vulnerable and cry at movies without being perceived as weak, because only "chicks cry at movies". These young men are lost because they have not adapted to shifting standards of what constitute gender roles. The man is NOT the head of the family, he is an equal partner in a complex system and should be contributing anything he can to raise his children and support his partner, whether that is fixing the water heater or fixing breakfast for the kids, or maybe learning about feminine hygiene products so that he can help out in a pinch when mom is busy with other things.
There is nothing wrong with watching porn and playing video games as long as you do not adopt any of the toxic mentality that can be associated with the media. The problem with young men "retreating into ..." is that they come out angry and detached from their emotions. They come out blaming the wrong groups for their situation. They say, "women won't have sex with me..." as if they are entitled to sex. They say, "I can't be a man" when what they mean is, "I get into trouble if I degrade women, act violently, and think that men are better than women".
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Natural cause or run over by a bus