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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:58 AM Nov 2021

What are the odds that these cops who are quitting because of the vaccine...

are the ones that we really don't want/need in that job?

I'm guessing these are the same ones who carry a little baggie of crack in their pockets so they can drop in in the backseat of cars driven by Black men.

I'm guessing these are the same ones who constantly have body camera "problems".

I'm guessing these are the same ones covered in white supremacist tattoos.

I'd bet we'll be better off once these officers are gone, one way or another.

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What are the odds that these cops who are quitting because of the vaccine... (Original Post) NightWatcher Nov 2021 OP
There is a good chance of that being correct! BlueJac Nov 2021 #1
Anything to take down the libs Hulk Nov 2021 #31
Yes. Very likely Trumpers. Forward their resumes to Russia. Trust_Reality Nov 2021 #55
How can they claim to protect you if they will not even get vaccinated? olegramps Nov 2021 #78
Anti-Vax is not exclusively RW/ white supremacist brooklynite Nov 2021 #2
There are a lot of right wingers at these demonstrations. I don't even know any "left wingers" Walleye Nov 2021 #7
You are absolutely right... there are left-wingers who are pro vax / anti mandate SayitAintSo Nov 2021 #16
But... but... but... we really need to be nice. calimary Nov 2021 #39
Absofinglutely! annzup57che Nov 2021 #49
Katie Porter comes to mind. fwvinson Nov 2021 #67
Al Franken. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #75
So agree childfreebychoice Nov 2021 #45
Our house cleaner (Afro-Caribbean) has refused to get vaccinated. brooklynite Nov 2021 #46
There are a LOT of things they need to get their arms around oldsoftie Nov 2021 #61
I have an ex friend who is very liberal and anti-vax and anti-mask. Mickju Nov 2021 #44
Yeah but on the police forces? druidity33 Nov 2021 #69
beat me too it but it should be obvious. Ligyron Nov 2021 #74
Not 100% exclusive to rw haters, no, but they certainly make up the vast majority of the fools. lark Nov 2021 #79
I feel the same in the medical field. But especially the police and military, yes. LizBeth Nov 2021 #3
Concur lambchopp59 Nov 2021 #38
Very HIGH i would say bluestarone Nov 2021 #4
That is my take...good riddance. Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #5
Once they find out Old Crank Nov 2021 #6
Most jobs don't include stops at the donut shop. Captain Zero Nov 2021 #9
Also they get to work well into their 60's now Shermann Nov 2021 #12
Or they can go and get the same job in Florida. brooklynite Nov 2021 #47
That works too. bluestarone Nov 2021 #53
The ones who truly want to "protect and serve" will get vaccinated... Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #8
+33. n/t Harker Nov 2021 #13
Exactly. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #14
That is the heart of the matter right there. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #63
Withhold vaccines form First Responders Claire Oh Nette Nov 2021 #37
Notice how "protect" comes first. calimary Nov 2021 #42
Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #73
This has been said by several posters ... Whiskeytide Nov 2021 #10
Why don't the reporters (or their editors) ask (or print or broadcast) the following question: Red Pest Nov 2021 #17
The only problem is DeathSantis inviting them to come to Florida! CaptainTruth Nov 2021 #30
Krissy Noem is inviting them to South Dakota, too... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2021 #40
Same in Suffolk NYFlip Nov 2021 #43
Some silver linings with covid. Cops who don't believe in public safety and medical folks Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #11
👍 Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #26
That just sounds really cynical and stupid n/t SayitAintSo Nov 2021 #15
yeah those who don't get vaccinated are stupid and cynical. rockfordfile Nov 2021 #71
And who wants a nurse Maine Abu El Banat Nov 2021 #18
I work in a 1000 member fire department. BradBo Nov 2021 #19
👍 Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #24
Mosty close to retirement IbogaProject Nov 2021 #20
Yes, that is my thought as well. Rogue cops who stir up trouble rather than serve the public. Fla Dem Nov 2021 #21
Good riddance. Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #22
I'd assume that for them, piddyprints Nov 2021 #23
Maybe they're just privatizing their services bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #25
+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #51
Who Is Signing Contracts For Their Services? ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #66
And Ron DeathSantis wants them to come to FL & get a $5000 bonus. CaptainTruth Nov 2021 #27
Great NYT sun article about new pew poll # saying magats are identifying as lindysalsagal Nov 2021 #28
I agree. Cops that care so little for the safety of others shouldn't be cops. patphil Nov 2021 #29
I think you're exactly right. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #32
Who would have guessed BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #33
Basically, people prone to making bad choices will make bad choices in all likelihood. Gore1FL Nov 2021 #34
There's probably plenty of overlap there IronLionZion Nov 2021 #35
Our fine Florida governor AJT Nov 2021 #36
Also NQAS Nov 2021 #41
I hope departments also change rehire rules to exclude avaxx. nt live love laugh Nov 2021 #48
these are also the same ones who pull over white teenagers for the same offence AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #50
i am wondering if the firefighters who are quitting because of said same reason AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #52
They'll probably all move to Florida and Texas and joint the police forces there. Texin Nov 2021 #54
I bet these cops have been looking for a way out for some time SpankMe Nov 2021 #56
The first one of these quitting cops I read about NellieStarbuck Nov 2021 #57
In California their pension Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #58
90% would be a great subsidy to enable rw cops to do rw work empedocles Nov 2021 #59
I'd bet many are able to retire & just want publicity oldsoftie Nov 2021 #60
The thing is... Geechie Nov 2021 #62
Good riddance packman Nov 2021 #64
Odds? It's a sure bet that no house is going to take. bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #65
Unlike the nurses and firemen, the cops have $5,000 and a job waiting for them in FL. keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #68
A good deal of them are desk jockeys and fuckups Historic NY Nov 2021 #70
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #72
Positive proof that divide-and-conquer is working.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #76
Wouldn't it be a hoot if POC Democrats were hired to replace the white supremacists? Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #77
POC have the lowest vax rates..... brooklynite Nov 2021 #80
The mandates are exposing The Wizard Nov 2021 #81
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
31. Anything to take down the libs
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:16 AM
Nov 2021

Good riddance! I'd bet my next SS check that the vast majority are trumpers at the very least, And gQp's most probably.

Good riddance.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
78. How can they claim to protect you if they will not even get vaccinated?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 08:37 AM
Nov 2021

It is impossible to reason with them. It is a total waste of time. I can't trust someone with may life and safety if they are willing to infect me with a deadly disease. It is beyond stupid. It bridges on the criminal. Go riddance of the Trump Trash.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
2. Anti-Vax is not exclusively RW/ white supremacist
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:04 AM
Nov 2021

There are left-wingers who are "anti-Big Pharma". There are African Americans who don't trust Government medical programs.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
7. There are a lot of right wingers at these demonstrations. I don't even know any "left wingers"
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:31 AM
Nov 2021

I know there are some who claim to be on the left of the political spectrum who are against vaccinations. But I’m pretty sure the majority of the anti-VAXers are just plain trumpers. It’s all political. It’s not based on science, or religious principles. It’s based on trump support and we know it. Then there is the American tradition of libertarianism that always threatens to take down society

 

SayitAintSo

(2,207 posts)
16. You are absolutely right... there are left-wingers who are pro vax / anti mandate
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:48 AM
Nov 2021

If Democrats can't get their arms around this, we're going to be really big losers at the polls

calimary

(81,304 posts)
39. But... but... but... we really need to be nice.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:08 PM
Nov 2021

My kingdom for a scheming strategically ruthless Democrat!!! Are there ANY? Even ONE?

annzup57che

(2 posts)
49. Absofinglutely!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:39 PM
Nov 2021

I've not had on MSM because the lies and throwing election in VA to some trumper bc they got more views under a sociopathic narcissist who consistently did obscene shit to report on. I TOO WANT FIERCE SCHEMING CONNIVING LEFTIST DEMS, WHO IF CALLED "SOCIALIST!" WILL SAY--"NO! BOLSHEVIK!" (sorry for the caps--our democratic republic experiment should not fail with a whimper!)

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
45. So agree
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:26 PM
Nov 2021

I have friends, black/dems nurses, most r vaxxed, but they all against mandates. Two are quitting rather than get vaxxed, both hubbies r corporate lawyers, and they work part-time, just to have something to do. Rising cost of food/gas, crt nonsense, and mandates will be our achilles's heels in VA, and 22/24

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
46. Our house cleaner (Afro-Caribbean) has refused to get vaccinated.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:29 PM
Nov 2021

For now she can come in on weeks when we're not at home, but we'll be looking for a replacement in the long-term.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
61. There are a LOT of things they need to get their arms around
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:27 PM
Nov 2021

This election was very close. Not nearly large enough to think everyone wants our policies. The vote was more anti trump than pro biden, IMO.
And your point is correct; next Nov could be a rough one if a lot of things dont make a turn for the better

Mickju

(1,803 posts)
44. I have an ex friend who is very liberal and anti-vax and anti-mask.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:22 PM
Nov 2021

She is a Bernie-bot and voted for Jill Stein. She is a teacher and mostly very intelligent. I don't know what her status is now at her school since I don't correspond with her anymore.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
69. Yeah but on the police forces?
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:00 PM
Nov 2021

Ya gotta figure most cops fall on the right side of the spectrum ANYWAY.

Just sayin'...



lark

(23,105 posts)
79. Not 100% exclusive to rw haters, no, but they certainly make up the vast majority of the fools.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 08:50 AM
Nov 2021

My neighbors are Puerto Rican and hate drumpf but only got vaxed after they caught Covid, they just don't trust the government. We teased them that they didn't believe in it until they got it (and thats part of this equation too) and they agreed that was partially the truth, especially since they are in their mid 40s and no risk factors..

However these are the exceptions, the people who are harassing others are the drumpfers, because all they have is hate and death.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
38. Concur
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:02 PM
Nov 2021

All of the anti-vaxxers I know of who actually allowed themselves dismissed than vaccinated were some of the biggest troublemakers, the most selfish, kniving creeps I ever had the displeasure to... ahem... "work around" as they continued take up space at the hospital... glad they're gone.

Old Crank

(3,589 posts)
6. Once they find out
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:29 AM
Nov 2021

That they will have to work for a living instead of their high paid cop job they might come around.

Wounded Bear

(58,664 posts)
8. The ones who truly want to "protect and serve" will get vaccinated...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:31 AM
Nov 2021

because that is what is right and proper to actually "protect and serve" the public.

Baitball Blogger

(46,733 posts)
14. Exactly.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:45 AM
Nov 2021

The main intent of public service is to protect the public. If you're not willing to take the vaccine, you lack the qualities required of the job.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
63. That is the heart of the matter right there.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:31 PM
Nov 2021

"Protect and serve" are obviously not the highest priorities for anyone wo would quit over a vaccine mandate.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
37. Withhold vaccines form First Responders
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Nov 2021

Ban cops and fire departments and EMTs from getting the vaccine and see how they clamor for the shot.
Children. Dangerous children.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
10. This has been said by several posters ...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:39 AM
Nov 2021

… here in the last few weeks:

So we are firing teachers that don’t believe in science; nurses who don’t believe in medicine; soldiers who don’t respect the chain of command; and law enforcement officers who don’t care about public safety. What’s the problem?

Red Pest

(288 posts)
17. Why don't the reporters (or their editors) ask (or print or broadcast) the following question:
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:48 AM
Nov 2021

As a police officer, you enforce the laws and regulations of the government; why do you feel that those laws and regulations do not apply to you?

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
30. The only problem is DeathSantis inviting them to come to Florida!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:15 AM
Nov 2021

I don't want them here!!!

God he's an idiot...

NYFlip

(324 posts)
43. Same in Suffolk
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:18 PM
Nov 2021

Suffolk county on Long Island is offering 700 jobs at equal pay and don’t need to get vaccinated

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Some silver linings with covid. Cops who don't believe in public safety and medical folks
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:40 AM
Nov 2021

who don’t believe in science are voluntarily exposing themselves, quitting, or fired, and we will all be more safe.

BradBo

(531 posts)
19. I work in a 1000 member fire department.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:51 AM
Nov 2021

Dozen of unvaccinated idiots have left. Thank gosh. The are the ones that would hunt the homeless if given the chance. Right wing, gun loving nuts.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
20. Mosty close to retirement
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:53 AM
Nov 2021

Mosty ones close to retirement, who would like to work a little longer. Sometimes you can retire at 20, after 5 more they get healthcare. Retirement pay level & amount can keep going up. So the issues may include those.

I would be surprised if the antivax cohort included any of the less troublesome.

piddyprints

(14,643 posts)
23. I'd assume that for them,
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:08 AM
Nov 2021

as well as anyone else who’s stupid enough to quit a decent job. Maybe they don’t all have cop-specific shit going on, but plenty of people in other jobs who are quitting don’t really want/need their jobs, I guess.

They believe the bullshit that no one wants to work because of all the extra unemployment benefits and Covid relief money. (Anyone who has ever lived on unemployment knows what a drop in the bucket it is.) They believe they will have no problem finding a new, better-paying job that the “loafers” don’t want. Or they don’t actually need a job. (Can we call them “loafers” now?)

The thing is, sooner or later they will have to be vaccinated or stay home or out of public venues. So, losing their jobs over nothing. Good riddance to them.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
66. Who Is Signing Contracts For Their Services?
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:22 PM
Nov 2021

Anybody in any government job can privatize, but absent contracts, the other word for that maneuver is unemployment.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
28. Great NYT sun article about new pew poll # saying magats are identifying as
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

evangelicals: not because they go to church, but just for the self-righteous fix the religious nationalism provides. Many of these quitters may be too deeply identified with religion and all of it to go on having "caved in" to their enemies: us.

patphil

(6,180 posts)
29. I agree. Cops that care so little for the safety of others shouldn't be cops.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

They lack the ability to understand the concept of "protect and serve".

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
33. Who would have guessed
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:31 AM
Nov 2021

The cops would effectively defund themselves! I’m reasonably sure the cops that are leaving are the ones who never felt following the law was that big of a deal.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
34. Basically, people prone to making bad choices will make bad choices in all likelihood.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:32 AM
Nov 2021

I suspect those leaving share some other traits making them sub-optimal peace officers.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
35. There's probably plenty of overlap there
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:32 AM
Nov 2021

Considering the political divide among vaccinated and unvaccinated in the general population.

The folks who are committed to doing the job correctly would comply with the mandates and gotten the shot by now. The irony is the people against "Defund the Police" are now the cause for having fewer police until new recruits are hired who hopefully have better values.

Same with healthcare workers and other fields.

There are tons of job openings now for folks who want it. Plenty of folks have been training during the pandemic for new jobs.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
36. Our fine Florida governor
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:41 AM
Nov 2021

has invited all police and firemen who quit or are fired for not getting a vaccine to come on down to Florida to get a job.

AllaN01Bear

(18,247 posts)
50. these are also the same ones who pull over white teenagers for the same offence
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:47 PM
Nov 2021

over and over and over again even though it as been noloed in court. if it were my kid in modern times , dash cam dash cam dash cam. save all the recipts of said repair of violation and all recipts of said tickets and challenge this in court .
answer : e . all of the above.

NellieStarbuck

(266 posts)
57. The first one of these quitting cops I read about
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:18 PM
Nov 2021

was willing to sacrifice a career of "30 years in law enforcement" for his antivax principle. Heck, most cops can retire at 20 years, and do. I'd be interested to know how many of these great and noble freedom fighters have already got 20 years in the bag and can retire any time they want without penalty.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
58. In California their pension
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 04:27 PM
Nov 2021

maxes out at 30 years at 90% of their current salary. Anyone who would continue working after that is a lunatic, or has some corrupt way of making money on the job.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
60. I'd bet many are able to retire & just want publicity
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:24 PM
Nov 2021

Its easy to "stand for your principals" when you'll still have a check coming in

Geechie

(865 posts)
62. The thing is...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:31 PM
Nov 2021

They won't be "gone." They'll move to Florida, where Ron DeSantis is offering them a fat bonus to sign on as community servants who don't give a crap about the community they serve.

Or they'll sign on with some other quasi-law-enforcement or quasi-military organization that props them up & feeds their stupidity.

Or they'll go to Wal-Mart and give somebody Covid.

Or ... or ...

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
64. Good riddance
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:41 PM
Nov 2021

They are the ones who feel rules and regulations do not apply to them. Their attitude- No one is going to tell me what to do. The law is what they, in their minds, make it to be. Take that shit attitude, and that paramilitary crap and go join some American backwoods semi-military group with their Nazi/Confederate flags and secret handshakes.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
65. Odds? It's a sure bet that no house is going to take.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:14 PM
Nov 2021

The first job of the Police is to protect and defend. By failing to get a vaccination they are failing to do both.

keithbvadu2

(36,823 posts)
68. Unlike the nurses and firemen, the cops have $5,000 and a job waiting for them in FL.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:23 PM
Nov 2021

Unlike the nurses and firemen, the cops have $5,000 and a job waiting for them in FL.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
70. A good deal of them are desk jockeys and fuckups
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:30 AM
Nov 2021

they aren't out working the streets. A rookie class just graduated and another will be starting.

Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
77. Wouldn't it be a hoot if POC Democrats were hired to replace the white supremacists?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 08:31 AM
Nov 2021

At a higher wage? The problem of racism among the cops would lessen considerably.

Imagine a majority POC police force in the little towns of Burrito Fold, Texas, or Stunted Growth, Idaho.

Blazing Saddles!



The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
81. The mandates are exposing
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:02 AM
Nov 2021

some police who are prone to abusing authority under the color of law, and yes they align with fascism.

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