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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are the odds that these cops who are quitting because of the vaccine...
are the ones that we really don't want/need in that job?
I'm guessing these are the same ones who carry a little baggie of crack in their pockets so they can drop in in the backseat of cars driven by Black men.
I'm guessing these are the same ones who constantly have body camera "problems".
I'm guessing these are the same ones covered in white supremacist tattoos.
I'd bet we'll be better off once these officers are gone, one way or another.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Good riddance! I'd bet my next SS check that the vast majority are trumpers at the very least, And gQp's most probably.
Good riddance.
Trust_Reality
(1,723 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)It is impossible to reason with them. It is a total waste of time. I can't trust someone with may life and safety if they are willing to infect me with a deadly disease. It is beyond stupid. It bridges on the criminal. Go riddance of the Trump Trash.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)There are left-wingers who are "anti-Big Pharma". There are African Americans who don't trust Government medical programs.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)I know there are some who claim to be on the left of the political spectrum who are against vaccinations. But Im pretty sure the majority of the anti-VAXers are just plain trumpers. Its all political. Its not based on science, or religious principles. Its based on trump support and we know it. Then there is the American tradition of libertarianism that always threatens to take down society
SayitAintSo
(2,207 posts)If Democrats can't get their arms around this, we're going to be really big losers at the polls
calimary
(81,304 posts)My kingdom for a scheming strategically ruthless Democrat!!! Are there ANY? Even ONE?
annzup57che
(2 posts)I've not had on MSM because the lies and throwing election in VA to some trumper bc they got more views under a sociopathic narcissist who consistently did obscene shit to report on. I TOO WANT FIERCE SCHEMING CONNIVING LEFTIST DEMS, WHO IF CALLED "SOCIALIST!" WILL SAY--"NO! BOLSHEVIK!" (sorry for the caps--our democratic republic experiment should not fail with a whimper!)
fwvinson
(488 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)Oh, wait.....
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)I have friends, black/dems nurses, most r vaxxed, but they all against mandates. Two are quitting rather than get vaxxed, both hubbies r corporate lawyers, and they work part-time, just to have something to do. Rising cost of food/gas, crt nonsense, and mandates will be our achilles's heels in VA, and 22/24
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)For now she can come in on weeks when we're not at home, but we'll be looking for a replacement in the long-term.
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)This election was very close. Not nearly large enough to think everyone wants our policies. The vote was more anti trump than pro biden, IMO.
And your point is correct; next Nov could be a rough one if a lot of things dont make a turn for the better
Mickju
(1,803 posts)She is a Bernie-bot and voted for Jill Stein. She is a teacher and mostly very intelligent. I don't know what her status is now at her school since I don't correspond with her anymore.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)Ya gotta figure most cops fall on the right side of the spectrum ANYWAY.
Just sayin'...
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Anti-vax lefties dont become cops.
lark
(23,105 posts)My neighbors are Puerto Rican and hate drumpf but only got vaxed after they caught Covid, they just don't trust the government. We teased them that they didn't believe in it until they got it (and thats part of this equation too) and they agreed that was partially the truth, especially since they are in their mid 40s and no risk factors..
However these are the exceptions, the people who are harassing others are the drumpfers, because all they have is hate and death.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)All of the anti-vaxxers I know of who actually allowed themselves dismissed than vaccinated were some of the biggest troublemakers, the most selfish, kniving creeps I ever had the displeasure to... ahem... "work around" as they continued take up space at the hospital... glad they're gone.
bluestarone
(16,972 posts)These are TFG'S friends. There is NO DOUBT in my mind!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Old Crank
(3,589 posts)That they will have to work for a living instead of their high paid cop job they might come around.
Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)Nt
Shermann
(7,423 posts)None of this cushy pension after 20 years crap.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)bluestarone
(16,972 posts)Better chance of Covid taking care of our problem!
Wounded Bear
(58,664 posts)because that is what is right and proper to actually "protect and serve" the public.
Harker
(14,022 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,733 posts)The main intent of public service is to protect the public. If you're not willing to take the vaccine, you lack the qualities required of the job.
ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)"Protect and serve" are obviously not the highest priorities for anyone wo would quit over a vaccine mandate.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Ban cops and fire departments and EMTs from getting the vaccine and see how they clamor for the shot.
Children. Dangerous children.
calimary
(81,304 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)
here in the last few weeks:
So we are firing teachers that dont believe in science; nurses who dont believe in medicine; soldiers who dont respect the chain of command; and law enforcement officers who dont care about public safety. Whats the problem?
Red Pest
(288 posts)As a police officer, you enforce the laws and regulations of the government; why do you feel that those laws and regulations do not apply to you?
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)I don't want them here!!!
God he's an idiot...
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... under the same pretenses. FREEDUMB!
NYFlip
(324 posts)Suffolk county on Long Island is offering 700 jobs at equal pay and dont need to get vaccinated
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)who dont believe in science are voluntarily exposing themselves, quitting, or fired, and we will all be more safe.
Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)SayitAintSo
(2,207 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)Who does not believe in medical science.
BradBo
(531 posts)Dozen of unvaccinated idiots have left. Thank gosh. The are the ones that would hunt the homeless if given the chance. Right wing, gun loving nuts.
IbogaProject
(2,816 posts)Mosty ones close to retirement, who would like to work a little longer. Sometimes you can retire at 20, after 5 more they get healthcare. Retirement pay level & amount can keep going up. So the issues may include those.
I would be surprised if the antivax cohort included any of the less troublesome.
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)piddyprints
(14,643 posts)as well as anyone else whos stupid enough to quit a decent job. Maybe they dont all have cop-specific shit going on, but plenty of people in other jobs who are quitting dont really want/need their jobs, I guess.
They believe the bullshit that no one wants to work because of all the extra unemployment benefits and Covid relief money. (Anyone who has ever lived on unemployment knows what a drop in the bucket it is.) They believe they will have no problem finding a new, better-paying job that the loafers dont want. Or they dont actually need a job. (Can we call them loafers now?)
The thing is, sooner or later they will have to be vaccinated or stay home or out of public venues. So, losing their jobs over nothing. Good riddance to them.
bucolic_frolic
(43,176 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Probably.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Anybody in any government job can privatize, but absent contracts, the other word for that maneuver is unemployment.
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)evangelicals: not because they go to church, but just for the self-righteous fix the religious nationalism provides. Many of these quitters may be too deeply identified with religion and all of it to go on having "caved in" to their enemies: us.
patphil
(6,180 posts)They lack the ability to understand the concept of "protect and serve".
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)The cops would effectively defund themselves! Im reasonably sure the cops that are leaving are the ones who never felt following the law was that big of a deal.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)I suspect those leaving share some other traits making them sub-optimal peace officers.
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)Considering the political divide among vaccinated and unvaccinated in the general population.
The folks who are committed to doing the job correctly would comply with the mandates and gotten the shot by now. The irony is the people against "Defund the Police" are now the cause for having fewer police until new recruits are hired who hopefully have better values.
Same with healthcare workers and other fields.
There are tons of job openings now for folks who want it. Plenty of folks have been training during the pandemic for new jobs.
AJT
(5,240 posts)has invited all police and firemen who quit or are fired for not getting a vaccine to come on down to Florida to get a job.
NQAS
(10,749 posts)How many of these are at retirement age anyway?
live love laugh
(13,118 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,247 posts)over and over and over again even though it as been noloed in court. if it were my kid in modern times , dash cam dash cam dash cam. save all the recipts of said repair of violation and all recipts of said tickets and challenge this in court .
answer : e . all of the above.
AllaN01Bear
(18,247 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Covid vaccine just gives them an excuse.
NellieStarbuck
(266 posts)was willing to sacrifice a career of "30 years in law enforcement" for his antivax principle. Heck, most cops can retire at 20 years, and do. I'd be interested to know how many of these great and noble freedom fighters have already got 20 years in the bag and can retire any time they want without penalty.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)maxes out at 30 years at 90% of their current salary. Anyone who would continue working after that is a lunatic, or has some corrupt way of making money on the job.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)for whatever they could get
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)Its easy to "stand for your principals" when you'll still have a check coming in
Geechie
(865 posts)They won't be "gone." They'll move to Florida, where Ron DeSantis is offering them a fat bonus to sign on as community servants who don't give a crap about the community they serve.
Or they'll sign on with some other quasi-law-enforcement or quasi-military organization that props them up & feeds their stupidity.
Or they'll go to Wal-Mart and give somebody Covid.
Or ... or ...
packman
(16,296 posts)They are the ones who feel rules and regulations do not apply to them. Their attitude- No one is going to tell me what to do. The law is what they, in their minds, make it to be. Take that shit attitude, and that paramilitary crap and go join some American backwoods semi-military group with their Nazi/Confederate flags and secret handshakes.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)The first job of the Police is to protect and defend. By failing to get a vaccination they are failing to do both.
keithbvadu2
(36,823 posts)Unlike the nurses and firemen, the cops have $5,000 and a job waiting for them in FL.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)they aren't out working the streets. A rookie class just graduated and another will be starting.
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KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)in many segments of our society.....
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)At a higher wage? The problem of racism among the cops would lessen considerably.
Imagine a majority POC police force in the little towns of Burrito Fold, Texas, or Stunted Growth, Idaho.
Blazing Saddles!
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)some police who are prone to abusing authority under the color of law, and yes they align with fascism.