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Our 17-year-old vs. their 17-year-old. (Original Post) kpete Nov 2021 OP
This Norbert Nov 2021 #1
Sad but unfortunately Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #2
Not really, not even close. A deluded Pub would also post this -- Hortensis Nov 2021 #28
"They" would flip those photos and feel pride. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #3
Absolutely. And that's the real problem. whopis01 Nov 2021 #19
This is why my dread grows daily. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2021 #20
Pride? More like hope that "their" murderer could eliminate our activist quakerboy Nov 2021 #25
Yes, pride. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #29
I think her message will reach far more people than his bullets. Torchlight Nov 2021 #4
Ever notice when 'they' want to protest, Mr. Evil Nov 2021 #5
Just imagine Traildogbob Nov 2021 #9
Claim we're ANTIFA ..as if that's a bad thing..what can I say there are stupid RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2021 #11
I admire her so much. llmart Nov 2021 #6
Ouch! Embarrassing too bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #7
'Nuff said. calimary Nov 2021 #8
I understand how our 17 year old can carry her "weapon". But how can their 17 year old even OWN his? usaf-vet Nov 2021 #10
Police were very sympathetic to that asshole IronLionZion Nov 2021 #14
Exactly! usaf-vet Nov 2021 #22
He didn't own it legally. Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #21
Exactly! Exactly! usaf-vet Nov 2021 #23
About says it all. Pepsidog Nov 2021 #12
They're both 18. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #13
Yup that about sums it up! Initech Nov 2021 #15
Total Agreement marieo1 Nov 2021 #16
Articulate, well-read youth vs. gun-toting pig SpankMe Nov 2021 #17
Says a lot Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #18
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️May we persuade them to be mahina Nov 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2021 #26
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Nov 2021 #27
While we may appreciate the difference..... DFW Nov 2021 #30

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Not really, not even close. A deluded Pub would also post this --
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:38 AM
Nov 2021

without alteration. What does it mean when factionalism has become so extreme that it requries dishonesty and demonization even of kids to support?

Btw, we live in GA where almost all 17-year-olds we've ever known or just seen are "theirs." Each time I've visited the local high school on some project I've been impressed with how well mannered, well groomed, and overall good natured the kids are -- in that environment, yes, but not at all like the usual media stories of troubled teens going to hell.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
3. "They" would flip those photos and feel pride.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:41 AM
Nov 2021

"they" probably already have a tweet like that.

Rittenhouse is a hero to the Right.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
19. Absolutely. And that's the real problem.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 04:29 PM
Nov 2021

The views are so incredibly opposed that there is little chance of compromise on anything.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
20. This is why my dread grows daily.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:18 PM
Nov 2021

It wasn't just Nazi Germany & other obviously totalitarian countries where people have been treated with horrifyingly inhumane & deadly cruelty.

Just saw a documentary that turned my stomach by describing how cettain hateful, bigoted Americans treated German American citizens during WWI. Worse even, I feel, than the shameful interment of Japanese Americans in WWII, as it was violent vigilantism. And that many Americans perpetrated or condoned lynchings.(both the old--by civilians--and new--by cop--kind) is further proof of what a group if hateful American radicals are capable of.

Once the Rs enact their plan to declare Trump & all the R candidates the winners and they take over, R rank & file will feel even more free to treat Dems that way. And I won't be surprised if interment/concentration camps for Dems are instituted by the corrupt, evil R government & upheld by Trump's RW judges.

I know I'll get blasted by some here for saying all that, but it becomes more and more apparent that it can happen here.

The only question I have is: How do we stop them?

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
4. I think her message will reach far more people than his bullets.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Nov 2021

I think her patience will far outlast the shelf-life of his shameful senselessness.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
5. Ever notice when 'they' want to protest,
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:17 PM
Nov 2021

they're doing their patriotic duty and exercising their gawd-given rights. But, when anyone else wants to protest, they're radical leftists. They're against freedom. They're against America. They're communists.

Traildogbob

(8,755 posts)
9. Just imagine
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:40 PM
Nov 2021

my generation protesting planet destruction and Vietnam had shown up with M-16’s, the war toy of the day. White or not, us hippies would have been killed. Happened at Kent State and we were unarmed. Police sucked then pretty bad as well. And if we had pictures of Dem leaders superimposed on the American flag. Pretty sure there is a law against that.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
11. Claim we're ANTIFA ..as if that's a bad thing..what can I say there are stupid
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 01:01 PM
Nov 2021

..people all around us with the stupid group being the most dangerous, that is as written by Carlos Cipolla in his thesis, The
5 Basic Laws of Human Stupidity as depicted in video at link, select nous animation.

Cipolla states we underestimate the number of stupid people in the world. He sorts people into 4 groups: Helpless, Intelligent, Stupid, Bandits-- goes on to conclude that the most dangerous group is the stupid group bc they will do something without gains to themselves. (Reminded me of those who participated in insurrection on Jan 6, or those not supporting bills that will help them; or nonvaxers, covid19 deniers that are literally killing themselves. People whom are willing to fall on their swords for odious-traitor#45, man who doesn't give a #uck about them; republiklan party who supports policies that harm them..then we observed the insurrection on.Jan 6.. stupidity in numbers is a powerful force.. [note: I would change name of stupid people group to evil people group bc imo stupid, stupidity verbage conotates a childlike innocence, a naiive ignorance rather than blatant evilness; same with bandit group change to evil bandits.]

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usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
10. I understand how our 17 year old can carry her "weapon". But how can their 17 year old even OWN his?
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:42 PM
Nov 2021

I understand their 17-year-old didn't turn 18 until after he shot and killed his victims.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
14. Police were very sympathetic to that asshole
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 01:18 PM
Nov 2021

after he crossed state lines with a weapon looking for trouble and shot/killed unarmed people. He walked right past several cops after the shooting and wasn't even perceived as a threat nor detained.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
21. He didn't own it legally.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:24 PM
Nov 2021

He had an older friend buy it for him. That guy, I think has already been convicted for doing that.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
15. Yup that about sums it up!
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 01:59 PM
Nov 2021

And I will repeat this until I'm blue in the face: their solution to everything is always violence. Always!

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
16. Total Agreement
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:03 PM
Nov 2021

I wish there were 10 of her. She is great and has a great message - the other doesn't stand for anything except hate and anger. I hope she will be around for a long time and I wish others would try to be like her.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
17. Articulate, well-read youth vs. gun-toting pig
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:17 PM
Nov 2021

This also speaks the the parenting of these young adults.

Response to kpete (Original post)

DFW

(54,405 posts)
30. While we may appreciate the difference.....
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:09 PM
Nov 2021

Republicans see the difference, too, and are proud that their 17 year old seems so much better to them. Pro-Death beats out Pro-life every time in Republicanworld. They just call their Pro-Death "Pro-Life," and think they have the better offering.

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