It is pretty clear that we are getting dicked around by to Senators, and it is time to pass

[JohnSJ]

something

Pass both bills in the House now, and send the reconciliation bill over to the Senate and give Manchin and Sinema what they want to pass it and move on

Then move forward, and that means doing everything we can to elect enough a senators to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant, and maintaining the majority in the House

There is no ambiguity anymore, and this is what we are up against

Recall during the Democratic primaries Manchin said if Sanders became the nominee, he wouldn’t vote for sanders

This is what we are dealing with

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468278-manchin-says-he-wouldnt-back-sanders-against-trump-in-presidential-race

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. It sounds like that's what Jayapal is planning to do

Hell, can't the House pass their bill, then hash everything out in conference? Or does reconciliation not allow that?

[regnaD kciN]

3. You can only conference...

…if both chambers pass something. If the two DINOs simply vote against BBB, it’s dead and there’s nothing to conference about.

[JohnSJ]

6. I know, but the way it is going there is no point tying both bills together anymore

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. There will be the vote-a-rama before the Senate's vote though

Conceivably it could be amended to meet Manchin's demands during that process (like the Rescue Plan), then there would be something to conference, wouldn't there?

I admit, I'm not 100% on the archaic rules.

[PSPS]

2. If the senate changes anything, it goes back to the house for another vote

president manchin isn't going to let the BBB pass in any form. Such is life in a minority-rule country.

[JohnSJ]

4. I know. Then don' tie both bill together

[PortTack]

5. Agree!

[HUAJIAO]

8. ".....give Manchin and Sinema what they want to pass it and move on..."

They don't really care what is in it. It's all just an act.

They will not vote for anything, just like the rest of the repubs won't vote for it. They are both bought and paid for.