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Jen Psaki response to Manchin remarks (Original Post) Nittersing Nov 2021 OP
Where's the full statement? N/T lapucelle Nov 2021 #1
Just what I saw in the tweet. When I clicked on it. Nittersing Nov 2021 #2
So it sounds like posturing for his constituents on Manchin's part and a wink and a nod on Psaki's. lapucelle Nov 2021 #3
+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #4
I agree Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2021 #5
He Damned Well Better, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #6
I'm way past that, Sir. 2naSalit Nov 2021 #24
I wouldn't count on it... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #10
He could do this 5-6 more times then decide it's too close to the election... Probatim Nov 2021 #20
He's waiting for the results of Virginia Generic Brad Nov 2021 #15
I almost *hope* it's this, compared to the grim outlook I've been harboring. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2021 #22
That's an interesting thought... 2naSalit Nov 2021 #23
Or vice-versa... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #9
I don't think so. That would benefit neither the White House nor Manchin. lapucelle Nov 2021 #11
Oh, well done obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #7
Manchin rso Nov 2021 #8
Even if it does pass at that level... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #12
BBB rso Nov 2021 #14
The "progressives" may have played it right. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2021 #13
I keep thinking back to when...... MyOwnPeace Nov 2021 #16
... littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #17
But what does Putin say? TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #18
Manchin got his way and killed family leave dlk Nov 2021 #19
He's sure making Rick Santorum giddy. czarjak Nov 2021 #21

Nittersing

(6,362 posts)
2. Just what I saw in the tweet. When I clicked on it.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:00 PM
Nov 2021

"Senator Manchin says he is prepared to support a Build Back Better plan that combats inflation, is fiscally responsible, and will create jobs. The plan the House is finalizing meets those tests - it is fully paid for, will reduce the deficit, and brings down costs for health care, child care, elder care, and housing. Experts agree: Seventeen Nobel Prize-winning economists have said it will reduce inflation. As a result, we remain confident that the plan will gain Senator Manchin's support."

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
10. I wouldn't count on it...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:22 PM
Nov 2021

He's not going to say "I won't support it unless it checks out fiscally, which it doesn't," and then decide it does after all. What his "posturing" means is that there's going to have to be another "compromise" (i.e. giving up another key part of the bill) before he grudgingly declares that "now, it's satisfactory" and supports it.


Probatim

(2,529 posts)
20. He could do this 5-6 more times then decide it's too close to the election...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:26 PM
Nov 2021

I don't trust him in the least

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
15. He's waiting for the results of Virginia
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:45 PM
Nov 2021

Fair weather Manchin will settle whichever way the wind is blowing.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. I almost *hope* it's this, compared to the grim outlook I've been harboring.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:54 PM
Nov 2021
I fear he’s like other repuke game-players, who have tricked us in the past, with no intention of holding to their own promises. If it is what I fear, I’ll feel very ill, indeed.

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
11. I don't think so. That would benefit neither the White House nor Manchin.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:23 PM
Nov 2021

Manchin is a Democrat who knows how to win in West Virginia. He has political skills.

rso

(2,272 posts)
8. Manchin
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:08 PM
Nov 2021

It’s obvious that the progressives have caved to Manchin, but with that said, the BBB will still pass at the 1.75 trillion amount.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. Even if it does pass at that level...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:24 PM
Nov 2021

...the framing is going to be really crucial, in order to avoid the ACA dilemma, where the bill finally passed, but enough of the focus became on "what it didn't accomplish after all" (i.e. public option), rather than what it actually achieved.

rso

(2,272 posts)
14. BBB
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:29 PM
Nov 2021

Agreed, democrats will need to mount a massive PR effort to highlight the huge benefits of the BBB.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
13. The "progressives" may have played it right.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:28 PM
Nov 2021

They started off with a huge amount in the bill. Yeah, it was paid for, but it was still a huge amount. They knew it would get resistance. They started off high, and expected to come down quite a bit with a compromise that still is hefty and lays the groundwork for further improvements.

Compromise always has this kind of playbook.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
16. I keep thinking back to when......
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:06 PM
Nov 2021

PRESIDENT OBAMA took office and had to fight the disaster that 'W' had left with the economy. The PRESIDENT and the Dems had a plan but there was not a strong enough majority to get it passed and we settled for about 1/2 of what it 'could'a/should'a' been.

So, when it passed and began to have an effect on saving the nation's economy, of course the Repukes claimed that 'their' compromise is what helped 'save America' - and then they began complaining that the plan wasn't as 'strong' as it should have been.

Well, it's looking like we're gonna' see the same game plan again: The Repukes will run out and claim how THEY were the 'fiscally responsible ones' and that THEY helped save America again, while we're getting a 'part' of the package that really would have make a big mark in making life better in America.

GAWD, I HATE those F'ers!

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