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(18,268 posts)Nittersing
(6,362 posts)"Senator Manchin says he is prepared to support a Build Back Better plan that combats inflation, is fiscally responsible, and will create jobs. The plan the House is finalizing meets those tests - it is fully paid for, will reduce the deficit, and brings down costs for health care, child care, elder care, and housing. Experts agree: Seventeen Nobel Prize-winning economists have said it will reduce inflation. As a result, we remain confident that the plan will gain Senator Manchin's support."
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)The PC was all for show for a certain audience. Bet he ends up voting for the Bills.
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,808 posts)Posturing for the more conservative of his district.
I don't think he would let Joe down!
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I am getting very tired of the man.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)He's not going to say "I won't support it unless it checks out fiscally, which it doesn't," and then decide it does after all. What his "posturing" means is that there's going to have to be another "compromise" (i.e. giving up another key part of the bill) before he grudgingly declares that "now, it's satisfactory" and supports it.
Probatim
(2,529 posts)I don't trust him in the least
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Fair weather Manchin will settle whichever way the wind is blowing.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)I hadn't considered.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Manchin is a Democrat who knows how to win in West Virginia. He has political skills.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Its obvious that the progressives have caved to Manchin, but with that said, the BBB will still pass at the 1.75 trillion amount.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...the framing is going to be really crucial, in order to avoid the ACA dilemma, where the bill finally passed, but enough of the focus became on "what it didn't accomplish after all" (i.e. public option), rather than what it actually achieved.
Agreed, democrats will need to mount a massive PR effort to highlight the huge benefits of the BBB.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)They started off with a huge amount in the bill. Yeah, it was paid for, but it was still a huge amount. They knew it would get resistance. They started off high, and expected to come down quite a bit with a compromise that still is hefty and lays the groundwork for further improvements.
Compromise always has this kind of playbook.
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)PRESIDENT OBAMA took office and had to fight the disaster that 'W' had left with the economy. The PRESIDENT and the Dems had a plan but there was not a strong enough majority to get it passed and we settled for about 1/2 of what it 'could'a/should'a' been.
So, when it passed and began to have an effect on saving the nation's economy, of course the Repukes claimed that 'their' compromise is what helped 'save America' - and then they began complaining that the plan wasn't as 'strong' as it should have been.
Well, it's looking like we're gonna' see the same game plan again: The Repukes will run out and claim how THEY were the 'fiscally responsible ones' and that THEY helped save America again, while we're getting a 'part' of the package that really would have make a big mark in making life better in America.
GAWD, I HATE those F'ers!
littlemissmartypants
(22,691 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)dlk
(11,569 posts)I'm guessing he'll vote for the bill.