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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:12 PM Nov 2021

Georgia Secretary Of State Didn't Know Trump's Order To 'Find' Votes Was Being Recorded

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had no idea then-President Donald Trump’s infamous phone call demanding that he “find” votes for him after the election was being recorded, Raffensperger said Sunday.

Raffensperger’s staff told him there was a tape of the call after Trump lied about it in a tweet, he told Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Trump claimed the call proved that Raffensperger didn’t have “a clue” about election issues. In fact, Raffensperger explained to the president that all claims had been investigated and rejected for lack of evidence.




The recording released to the press became one of most damaging to Trump and his baseless claims of a rigged election. Rather than pushing Raffensperger to seek evidence of possible wrongdoing, Trump directed him to “find” enough votes to transform his defeat into a victory.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-secretary-state-didnt-know-024533466.html
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Georgia Secretary Of State Didn't Know Trump's Order To 'Find' Votes Was Being Recorded (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 OP
one question ? why no charges yet ? very simple ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #1
Because things are different in real life, compared to TV dramas? NurseJackie Nov 2021 #13
jeeze , you are so right ! republican drama queen party ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #14
In an earlier interview, Raffensperger said he had the conversation recorded to protect himself LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2021 #2
If any POTUS called me, I would... JoeOtterbein Nov 2021 #3
Do ya think Raffi's life expectancy will increase 3Hotdogs Nov 2021 #4
Hold On.... toughtony Nov 2021 #5
Yeah, well, he's a Reptilian. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #9
In Georgia, it's legal to record a phone conversation radical noodle Nov 2021 #6
Good catch, Radical Noodle 70sEraVet Nov 2021 #7
At the very least radical noodle Nov 2021 #10
I think the call had a handful of active participants on both sides. Torchlight Nov 2021 #8
As I understand it, radical noodle Nov 2021 #11
If GA is a One-Party Consent state, you're correct. Torchlight Nov 2021 #12
2. In an earlier interview, Raffensperger said he had the conversation recorded to protect himself
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:00 AM
Nov 2021
when (not if) T**** lied about what the Secretary of State had said. It sounds like now he's throwing his staff under the bus. A little plausible deniability can go a long way.

In the end, TFG did lie, and the tapes surfaced to let us hear it.

3Hotdogs

(12,400 posts)
4. Do ya think Raffi's life expectancy will increase
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:17 AM
Nov 2021

if the Trump bumpers believe he wasn't responsible for recording Dear Leader?

toughtony

(88 posts)
5. Hold On....
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:40 AM
Nov 2021

I seem to recall that the GA Sec of State saying in an interview that he knew there would be a possiblity that trump would use his twitter account to discredit him. So he had the coversation recorded. He also said that he would release the tape only under the condition that trump did not go back and lie to the public on twitter with the intent to discredit him (assuming the public would take that lying sack of crap trump's word over his). The recording served to cover his butt and as proof of what trump said.

radical noodle

(8,012 posts)
6. In Georgia, it's legal to record a phone conversation
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:41 AM
Nov 2021

as long as one person gives consent. Trump obviously didn't know. If Raffensberger didn't know, was the recording legal or illegal?

Is this going to be how they make it impossible to indict trump?

radical noodle

(8,012 posts)
10. At the very least
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:37 PM
Nov 2021

he's trying to suck up to trump voters by saying "hey, it's not my fault that conversation was recorded."

Torchlight

(3,358 posts)
8. I think the call had a handful of active participants on both sides.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

Meadows, Giuliani and Navarro in Washington, and Ryan Germany (general counsel) in Atlanta. The transcript has all four of these additional players chiming in at one point or another.

Torchlight

(3,358 posts)
12. If GA is a One-Party Consent state, you're correct.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:46 PM
Nov 2021

Even if it's the individual doing the recording who consents, it's still legal. Given the number of people on that call, it's not too out-of-the-ordinary to believe one (or more) recorded the conversation.

But given the nature of what Trump had been saying about the GA elections to date, I find it incredible that any one person would *not* record the call. I'd think doing so an almost defacto requirement when speaking to Trump.

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