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AdamGG

(1,294 posts)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:36 AM Nov 2021

Would it be better for Democrats if Dump had not been taken off of Twitter?

I've wondered, as Biden's poll numbers have dropped over a barrage of right wing media attacks based in nothing, if it might almost have been beneficial for people to have seen the daily stream of chaotic toxic nonsense spewing from Trump for the last 10 months.

He has zero self control and it contributed to his being unre-electable. I was overjoyed to have him silenced, but in retrospect, his omnipresent insanity was a boost to Joe Biden. Allowing Trump to appear on the sidelines may have helped his cause rather than hindered it. When Afghanistan was happening, it may have even helped Biden to have Trump spewing comments that were so hateful and absurd, that Biden looked measured and reasonable by comparison.

Maybe we might actually be better off with Trump having the opportunity to actively damage himself every day and remind people of the complete piece of shit he is and the moral bankruptcy of the Republicans. They might have had more trouble dodging the Jan. 6 committee if Trump was still ranting his unhinged comments about it.

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Would it be better for Democrats if Dump had not been taken off of Twitter? (Original Post) AdamGG Nov 2021 OP
Too much chess. Not enough Battleship. Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #1
Just a fucking little to soon after 10 fucking months to determine Biden fucking "unelectable" ... marble falls Nov 2021 #2
? I don't see that in the OP. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #4
Maybe a pronoun confusion makes this clumsy ... marble falls Nov 2021 #7
I see what you mean - when you leave off the headline, it reads quite differently. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #10
"Has zero self control and it contributed to his being unre-electable" AdamGG Nov 2021 #11
No, because in MAGAt word being hateful and absurd isn't a bug, it's a feature. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #3
Yes, in MAGAT world, but where did that get him in the overall polls as time went on AdamGG Nov 2021 #12
Absurd. Do you miss Trmupy's ramblings? Twitter has every right to throw the asshole out. FSogol Nov 2021 #5
No. Channel the MAGAts into tRump's app and then let it collapse like the other RW media Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #6
No. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #8
No. His campaigning helps the Democrats. Hence his non appearance in VA themaguffin Nov 2021 #9
No . ... Lovie777 Nov 2021 #13
The people who might or might not vote for him or candidates closely associated with him muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #14
Exactly. Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #20
So you prefer having the public sphere, the airwaves, the daily newsfeeds, the very air we breathe, niyad Nov 2021 #15
I've had a nice few months with him gone Ritabert Nov 2021 #16
Anything that hinders his lying campaign is a plus. Xavier Breath Nov 2021 #17
No. His Tweets radicalize his followers, but Democrats do need a PR strategy. Doodley Nov 2021 #18
I don't think so, because Trump has this way of garnering attention ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #19
I certainly agree that the banning was deserved and that his lie firehose was bad... AdamGG Nov 2021 #21

Tetrachloride

(7,865 posts)
1. Too much chess. Not enough Battleship.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:39 AM
Nov 2021

why let trump have his favorite big lie weapon.
Increase his losses to make his rats jump ship.

marble falls

(57,161 posts)
2. Just a fucking little to soon after 10 fucking months to determine Biden fucking "unelectable" ...
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:40 AM
Nov 2021

... don't you think????

marble falls

(57,161 posts)
7. Maybe a pronoun confusion makes this clumsy ...
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:47 AM
Nov 2021

"I've wondered, as Biden's poll numbers have dropped over a barrage of right wing media attacks based in nothing, if it might almost have been beneficial for people to have seen the daily stream of chaotic toxic nonsense spewing from Trump for the last 10 months.

He has zero self control and it contributed to his being unre-electable."

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. I see what you mean - when you leave off the headline, it reads quite differently.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:50 AM
Nov 2021

The post requires the reader to hold onto that Trump pronoun through a whole paragraph. Could definitely have been written more clearly.

AdamGG

(1,294 posts)
11. "Has zero self control and it contributed to his being unre-electable"
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:06 AM
Nov 2021

Obiously referred to TRUMP. My OP in no way implied that Biden is unrelectable, which I don't think is the case.

Honestly, I think people jumping on attempts at reasonable discussion in here is sometimes a flaw with this site. I raised what I thought was a reasonable question in an articulate way. If people were exposed to Trump's daily shitstream, would Biden and the Democrats be tracking higher in the polls right now?

I guess that's unknowable, but it was a thought that occurred to me. It's hard to believe that the opposition efforts to diminish Biden wouldn't have less traction if for comparison, there was the daily bombardment of Trump's inanities.

Although I was overjoyed to have him removed from the scene, he's able to appear a bit more respectable when he's in the background. It might be better to allow him the rope to repeatedly hang himself, as he did previously.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
6. No. Channel the MAGAts into tRump's app and then let it collapse like the other RW media
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:45 AM
Nov 2021

Parler got hacked.

tRump's tRuth Social is trying to use modified open source software in violation of the terms of use. Plus the teaser platform for it got hacked and it displayed a pig pooping onto its own testicles for a while.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,355 posts)
14. The people who might or might not vote for him or candidates closely associated with him
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:14 AM
Nov 2021

are unlikely to be scanning Twitter to see the latest thing he's said. His effect on social media was more to inflame the already crazy and/or Republican even more. I don't think his absence from Twitter is an effect on poll numbers so much as the mental health and dangerousness of his base.

Haggard Celine

(16,855 posts)
20. Exactly.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:54 AM
Nov 2021

He was banned from Twitter and Facebook after the insurrection because he was using both as tools to stir up and organize his criminal followers. They banned him because he was a liability, not because he was a political threat to the Democrats. If he wants to stir up hate and mayhem, let it be on his own dime and without the help of Twitter, Facebook, etc.

niyad

(113,527 posts)
15. So you prefer having the public sphere, the airwaves, the daily newsfeeds, the very air we breathe,
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:19 AM
Nov 2021

breathe, polluted by his toxic, insane ramblings and rants? Do you really think a daily barrage of sewage helps the public discourse, the tenor of our lives? Just. . .wow. . .

Xavier Breath

(3,650 posts)
17. Anything that hinders his lying campaign is a plus.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:27 AM
Nov 2021

Besides, I'm enjoying the media not falling all over themselves to report any diarrhea he spews on Twitter. The peace and quiet is a relief.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
19. I don't think so, because Trump has this way of garnering attention
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:47 AM
Nov 2021

Sucks all the oxygen out of the room.

Plus he completely deserved the banning, but even from a logistical sense, I don’t see how his allowing many lies go on like way is helpful

AdamGG

(1,294 posts)
21. I certainly agree that the banning was deserved and that his lie firehose was bad...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:44 PM
Nov 2021

I was just questioning whether Biden might be polling higher now if Trump had continued his daily toxic spew. He amped up his followers, but Trump was shooting himself and the Republican party in the head every day. Perversely, I think they've benefitted from his being in the background and that they've been able to focus a negative spin on Biden that would have been hard to achieve if people were getting daily reminders of what the alternative had been.

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