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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:58 PM Nov 2021

The Murphy win is HUGE but you won't hear that-New Jersey's first to win re-election in 44 years

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/03/phil-murphy-new-jersey-governor-win-reelection

The Democratic governor of New Jersey, Phil Murphy, has narrowly won reelection, eking out a victory that spared Democrats the loss of a second gubernatorial seat.

Murphy, a former executive at Goldman Sachs and ambassador to Germany, became the first Democratic governor to win reelection in New Jersey in 44 years. He defeated Jack Ciattarelli, a Republican and former assembly member.

Murphy won following a tight race that was widely viewed as a referendum on the Democrat’s leadership throughout the pandemic. The governor issued stringent health orders to slow the spread of Covid-19, and has earned high marks from constituents for his leadership. He was one of the first governors to require Covid-19 vaccinations for public school teachers.
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The Murphy win is HUGE but you won't hear that-New Jersey's first to win re-election in 44 years (Original Post) malaise Nov 2021 OP
have heard a massive collapse in dems turnout made this so close like in VA nt msongs Nov 2021 #1
Unfortunately, the Democratic base often has lower turnout in off year elections AdamGG Nov 2021 #30
The MSM is, in no small part, responsible for VA's results mcar Nov 2021 #2
Aloha, mcar.. nice positive post! Cha Nov 2021 #19
My mom lives in district 20. Sunsky Nov 2021 #41
Because we're too busy gnashing our teeth and rending our garments over VA. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #3
Yep--and that's why we suck at messaging crimycarny Nov 2021 #7
Yep malaise Nov 2021 #9
Yup. ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #13
Yay . . . Lovie777 Nov 2021 #4
Will post the numbers when I find them malaise Nov 2021 #10
Jersey Woman Here WaterSong1951 Nov 2021 #5
Thanks malaise Nov 2021 #6
I'm wondering the demographic break down as far as age goes crimycarny Nov 2021 #8
Have to get back to you WaterSong1951 Nov 2021 #12
I think you're right peggysue2 Nov 2021 #31
Anti-maskers very motivated ramapo Nov 2021 #34
People need to get a grip. Biden's presidency is only 9 months old. gldstwmn Nov 2021 #11
Great Post Mary in S. Carolina Nov 2021 #14
Someone had a post Cha Nov 2021 #15
Yes it is sis malaise Nov 2021 #17
YW! I smiled big when Cha Nov 2021 #21
There is too much doom and gloom here at DU malaise Nov 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #18
K&R UTUSN Nov 2021 #16
Yup. roamer65 Nov 2021 #20
UP to their Usual Cha Nov 2021 #22
+1000 roamer65 Nov 2021 #26
Funny how long they took to declare Murphy the winner malaise Nov 2021 #43
This! JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #25
You go girl malaise Nov 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #28
In a state of perverse, sarcastic cynics it's hard to get re-elected bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2021 #32
For your consideration regarding the normal ebb and flow in U.S. politics: LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #33
She gave them all a dose of reality malaise Nov 2021 #44
This is such a silly stat. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #35
Kick for Murphy's Historic WIN! Cha Nov 2021 #36
Turned on Morning Joe - Murphy's win didn't make the opening shit malaise Nov 2021 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #38
I never knew this Sunsky Nov 2021 #39
Appreciate the effort - but there's no way to spin NJ as good news FBaggins Nov 2021 #40
the R spin in corporate media has been wicked foul Champp Nov 2021 #42
The MSM is downplaying his win, as his margin of victory continues Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #45
If M$Greedia gave a duck about democracy malaise Nov 2021 #46
If M$Greedia gave a duck about democracy malaise Nov 2021 #47
His MOV is not growing much. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #48
The M$$$M is Missing the Cha Nov 2021 #50
Truth! BeckyDem Nov 2021 #49

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
30. Unfortunately, the Democratic base often has lower turnout in off year elections
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:55 PM
Nov 2021

That's how Scott Brown got elected to the Senate in very blue Massachusetts. Hopefully, we can do a better job of GOTV in the midterms.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
2. The MSM is, in no small part, responsible for VA's results
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:00 PM
Nov 2021

I didn't know this about NJ until I saw it on Twitter a short while ago. MSM was so fixated on VA and on drumming up a win for the Rs, that they ignored every other race.

VA's results sucked, but all in all, it wasn't a bad night for us. We won many races.

Cha

(297,314 posts)
19. Aloha, mcar.. nice positive post!
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:19 PM
Nov 2021

Here's some Florida great news.. my nephew and his fiance' live in St Pete!



Democrat Ken Welch has declared victory in open mayoral race for St. Petersburg, FL.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216008774#top

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
41. My mom lives in district 20.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:01 AM
Nov 2021

She booked her appointment with me to be certain she'll have someone to take her to the polls to vote early for Mayor Holness She now tells everyone that her vote is in the 9 votes Holness is leading by currently
On another note, I was very upset that the Sheila team was allowed to bring a huge scrolling billboard with loudspeakers at the parking lot directly in front of the supervisor of elections office in Lauderhill (one of the main early voting centers in Broward and especially in that district). It may have not violated the distance requirement but it could not be missed by anyone attempting to vote at that location. It may have been legal but rubbed me the wrong way. I haven't seen that tactic employed here before.

Ocelot II

(115,734 posts)
3. Because we're too busy gnashing our teeth and rending our garments over VA.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:01 PM
Nov 2021

The fact that there were a number of Democratic wins all over the country seems to have escaped the attention of the media, as well as many on DU, because OMG, look at Virginia, we're doomed, doomed!

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
7. Yep--and that's why we suck at messaging
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:12 PM
Nov 2021

We do it to ourselves when we rend and gnash our teeth over a loss versus yelling to the treetops about the wins. Why play into the media's hands?

This is a sort of crude comparison but the best response I've seen to the "Let's Go Brandon" crap is "Brandon kicked Trump's *ss". Turn it on its head and throw it right back at them.

WaterSong1951

(74 posts)
5. Jersey Woman Here
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:09 PM
Nov 2021

I think dems sat this out because of the polls showing Governor Murphy ahead- lots of votes for the republican candidate occurred in South Jersey or orange turd land - lessons have to be learned: never assume victory

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
8. I'm wondering the demographic break down as far as age goes
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:14 PM
Nov 2021

We need to get the youth vote energized to vote. It seems it's often it's the 18-24 who don't show up and vote in midterms or non-Presidential elections. Get them motivated to vote in ALL elections and that might give us the edge we need.

WaterSong1951

(74 posts)
12. Have to get back to you
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:37 PM
Nov 2021

Right now any recount would have to be paid by the opposition or the winner according to CNN- breakdowns of votes are to come

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
31. I think you're right
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:10 PM
Nov 2021

Showing consistent wide leads can work to a candidate's detriment. I vaguely recall a presidential election where that proved to be the case! And this was an off-year.

And quite right for the OP to point out the historical significance of Murphy's victory.

First time in 44 years??

Not too shabby. As for the margin?

A win is a win. Just ask the GOP.

As for South Jersey, I was surprised by Gloucester Co. I lived there for over 20 years, raised my kids there. It was Blue back in the day. At least my native county, Burlington, went for Murphy.

ramapo

(4,588 posts)
34. Anti-maskers very motivated
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:54 PM
Nov 2021

Jack pledged to do away with mask and vaccine mandates. He brought out the very motivated anti-vax/mask/shutdown voters. Then there is always the property tax issue and Phil made a dumb remark that Jack ran with. And then people just can’t be bothered to vote. That was about it.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
11. People need to get a grip. Biden's presidency is only 9 months old.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:27 PM
Nov 2021

McAuliffe is not a good campaigner and made a terrible blunder by voicing a thought he should have kept to himself. I do think the Afghanistan withdrawal and BBB getting stuck did not help. The anybody but Trump crowd went back to voting for Republicans. Yes there are lessons to learn here but we'll figure those out. Congratulations to Governor Murphy.

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Cha

(297,314 posts)
22. UP to their Usual
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:22 PM
Nov 2021

Manufacturing and Manipulating the "news".. I hate them.

Cut them Off in Nov 2002.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. +1000
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:25 PM
Nov 2021


It’s nauseating. I hardly ever watch American “news” channels, but even CNN’s website was poison last night.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
25. This!
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:24 PM
Nov 2021

Even in the NJ Group - no joy. Just Debbie downer posts!

I'm thrilled!


And tired.

But meetings for next years elections start this Sunday! We beat on!

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #25)

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
29. In a state of perverse, sarcastic cynics it's hard to get re-elected
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:53 PM
Nov 2021

Phil Murphy survived because of his progressive first term!

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
35. This is such a silly stat.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 12:08 AM
Nov 2021

He's only the third Democratic New Jersey governor to run for a second term in that span (not counting Brendan Byrne).

Brendan Byrne won reelection in 1977 - and was not eligible to run in 1981 as New Jersey does not allow for a governor to serve more than two consecutive terms.

So, in 1981, Thomas Kean, the Republican won.

In 1985, Thomas Kean won reelection.

In 1989, James Florio, the Democrat, won.

In 1993, Florio barely lost to Christine Todd Whitman.

In 1997, Christine Todd Whitman was reelected.

In 2001, Jim McGreevey, the Democrat, won.

In 2004, McGreevey resigned after announcing he was gay and had been having an affair. He was replaced by Richard Codey.

In 2005, Richard Codey decided to not run for a term of his own. Instead, Jon Corzine, the senator from New Jersey, ran - and won.

In 2009, Jon Corzine lost reelection to Chris Christie.

In 2013, Christie won reelection.

So, in 44 years, just two governors have lost reelection: Florio and Corzine. Florio lost in 1993 - so, nearly 30 years ago.

The stat is a silly one.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
37. Turned on Morning Joe - Murphy's win didn't make the opening shit
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:12 AM
Nov 2021

Switched to the cricket world cup

Response to Cha (Reply #36)

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
40. Appreciate the effort - but there's no way to spin NJ as good news
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:37 AM
Nov 2021

For goodness sake… the longest-serving senate president appears to have lost and he was essentially running unopposed.

The results were outside the margin of error of all but one (red-leaning) poll. We dramatically underperformed expectations. We can’t spin it as over performing

malaise

(269,054 posts)
46. If M$Greedia gave a duck about democracy
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:16 AM
Nov 2021

their focus would be the fact that persons involved in a coup that failed won elections.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
47. If M$Greedia gave a duck about democracy
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:16 AM
Nov 2021

their focus would be the fact that persons involved in a coup that failed won elections.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
48. His MOV is not growing much.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

That margin is only 1.5. It will grow but not by much and will come in well below what the polls were suggesting.

Cha

(297,314 posts)
50. The M$$$M is Missing the
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 02:43 PM
Nov 2021

the Big REAL Story as Usual..

Gov Murphy is the only Democrat Gov to WIN a 2nd Term since 1977!

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