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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAaron Rodgers should be banned from the NFL for at least 1 full season, the POS was unvaxxed
and lied to all and acted like he was, breaking all the protocols, now he has COVID and probably gave it to teammates (more than likely) and other people.
The piece of dogshit was taking homopathic (ffs) nasal spray.
Lovie777
(12,278 posts)Celerity
(43,408 posts)Good luck to Rodgers rolling this one back. He will now be known as a guy who is slicker than his TV hair, who thought he was unique, too much so to follow rules, and more precious than anyone in the room. May he make a speedy return to the Green Bay Packers with no symptoms, but as for sympathy, that should be diverted to people who shared spaces with him when he was unmasked, who now have to sit around and wonder whether they brought something home because he was too coy with the coronavirus.
Lord knows Rodgers is inventive with the football, but of all the dodging, narcissistic, contrived moves. Yeah, Im immunized, he said, so artificially, when asked in the preseason whether he was vaccinated. That was a lie by omission. And not just a single lie but a daily wilful deception along with a weirdly callous charade. On multiple occasions he went into postgame news conferences which tend to be closely packed, fetid affairs unmasked. And there should be some queries about the steam and sauna and rehab rooms, too.
Aaron Rodgers tests positive for coronavirus, is considered unvaccinated under NFL rules
Obviously, its Rodgerss choice whether to get vaxxed, and there are plenty of defensible reasons not to and he should be able to hold his beliefs without being publicly demeaned. But what Rodgers did was demeaning to others. He also had a choice about whether to be forthright about his status or be duplicitous. He chose the second option and apparently went around unmasked to make it convincing. Rodgers betrayed another belief with those actions or, rather, a lack of belief. He does not believe that we all have to share some sacrifices in getting through this wretched minor-keys measure of history. Only you do. Not him. Your pandemic is not his concern. He is indifferent to it.
what a jerk.
I'm sure there are quite a few people out there in society doing the same.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)Response to Celerity (Reply #3)
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underpants
(182,829 posts)Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Like what?
I sincerely doubt Rodgers has a valid medical excuse.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)I know ONE person whos doctor initially advised her against getting vaccinated for medical reasons, but with all the data we now have concerning safety of the vaccines he told her to go ahead and get the shots. There are still a very very few people out there over age 5 who shouldn't get vaccinated, but that is an extremely small minority of people. Anyone else is just being a selfish asshole.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)They're putting themselves and their family at unnecessary risk for serious illness and/or death.
Doc Sportello
(7,522 posts)Nor do I think there are, as is written here, that "there are plenty of defensible reasons" for someone who is healthy not to get vaccinated. Rodgers is just as idiotic as any anti-vaxxer out there. The Packers let him get away with it because of his stature as a player and fan favorite. I respected him before. I don't now. He should be held accountable not only for the deception but for not getting vaccinated.
Bluethroughu
(5,172 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)NOPE.
NOPE.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)He admitted that his "vaccine status" was homeopathic. Hahahaha. What a galoot.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 4, 2021, 07:38 AM - Edit history (3)
All I heard yesterday was that he been taking his own kind of anti viral treatments.
What a dirt bag. God only knows how many people he exposed to this potentially deadly or life
changing viral disease. His own teammates, coaches, staff, trainers, and their families along with
other teams that played the packers and so on were all put at risk.
He should get banned for 1 year at least. The motherfucker does not know more about C-19 then Dr. Fauci.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Saw this last night - fuck him
Celerity
(43,408 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Celerity
(43,408 posts)maybe I forgot to
malaise
(269,054 posts)Celerity
(43,408 posts)I have not been able to find my post so perhaps I am going senile at 25.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Arrogance and duplicity is never a good look.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)I have to ACKNOWLEDGE he has the right to try alternatives.
I don't have to RESPECT it.
It's stupid, and unworthy of respect.
sir pball
(4,743 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)Respect is earned, not bestowed.
Like I said, I acknowledge the existence of his right to choose.
I find nothing respectable about a foolish decision, particularly when the decision negatively affects others.
sir pball
(4,743 posts)I respect his right in the same way I respect Pat Roberson's right to free speech. I give the right itself proper acknowledgement, acceptance, but certainly with no esteem or admiration.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Theres no way I have to respect the decisions he makes.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)He exposed people to Covid who thought they were safe being near him. What a selfish piece of shit.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I'll respect his right to make a decision, but I can't respect that decision at all. There should be some serious consequences for that.
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)Last line in the article says it all:
Chatter throughout the day Wednesday centered on the surprise of Rodgers' unvaccinated status, but the health of all involved should be the top priority.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32545222/aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-rules-unvaccinated-nfl-players-packers-qb-return-more
Get well soon Aaron, and go Pack!
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Especially opposing team's players and coaches. I know I would be pissed if I found out after hugging him after a game that he wasn't vaccinated
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Like I said he's putting others at Danger needlessly
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)We'll see whether they do or not.
From espn:
The NFL-NFLPA rules were amended this summer. Masks are required for unvaccinated players at games only if they are inactive, meaning they are not in uniform and not eligible to play. Active players are encouraged but not required to wear masks unless local or state guidelines require it, according to the current protocols. None of the four teams that the Packers have played on the road so far have required active players to wear masks on sidelines.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32545222/aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-rules-unvaccinated-nfl-players-packers-qb-return-more
Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Different standards for different players and teams yeah he was my favorite quarterback and one of the reasons to watch a football game but not anymore
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Gawd...I thought that dude was a LOT smarter than this
True Dough
(17,305 posts)If we look at the National Hockey League by comparison, player Evander Kane admitted to carrying a fake Covid vaccination card. When he got caught, he was suspended for 21 games, or one-quarter of the NHL season.
I wonder if Rodgers will even get suspended at all?
Celerity
(43,408 posts)other people.
Lovie777
(12,278 posts)True Dough
(17,305 posts)But it will be interesting to see how mild it is based on the big money that Rodgers represents for the NFL. I'm also curious whether fans will voice their displeasure for Rodgers' irresponsibility en masse, or if they continue to cheer him. Those on the right generally dislike him because they consider him "woke," so I don't know if they would get behind him for failing to get vaccinated.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Pete Rose bet on his own team. He was banned for life and all of his expunged. Same should have happen in the NFL. Big money rules.
True Dough
(17,305 posts)when the betting scandal broke. The NFL is finally being forced to develop a public conscience, but there's not a chance Rodgers is going to face a full-season suspension, let alone a lifetime ban.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I have no use for Brandy. He not only cheated, but lied about it. He showed little remorse. Hell of an example, but it didn't seem to matter to the team's fans or his new exalting fans. I guess winning is everything. To hell with any morality.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)haven't read the science. Not that it matters, people believe what they want. Too bad 'morality' has nothing to do with truth.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Seriously? That POS should never be in the hall of fame.
True Dough
(17,305 posts)I wasn't making a case for Rose to return to baseball in any capacity or to be inducted in the HoF.
My point was that Aaron Rodgers, as an active football superstar, makes it more difficult for the NFL to sanction in a meaningful way than it was for MLB to impose a serious penalty against a former great player who had long since retired. The money implications aren't the same, and, like it or not, money talks.
RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)gets the goddamned vaccine! No vaccination, no play. No play, no pay. Simple.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last, Weiskopf says. We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
AND:
Natural immunity to covid is powerful.
Its okay to have an incorrect scientific hypothesis. But when new data proves it wrong, you have to adapt. Unfortunately, many elected leaders and public health officials have held on far too long to the hypothesis that natural immunity offers unreliable protection against covid-19 a contention that is being rapidly debunked by science.
More than 15 studies have demonstrated the power of immunity acquired by previously having the virus. A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated. This affirmed a June Cleveland Clinic study of health-care workers (who are often exposed to the virus), in which none who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination. And in May, a Washington University study found that even a mild covid infection resulted in long-lasting immunity. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)In the meantime, I hope Rodgers recovers quickly and can join his teammates again soon.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)I hope no one he exposed gets ill and/or dies because of his callous indifference. And, if they or their families do get COVID, I hope they recover quickly and can join their normal lives again soon with no lingering health effects.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)mopinko
(70,127 posts)for those who dont know jack about football, the pack is owned by the town.
they spend a lot of time up on that pedestal. if this guy doesnt get his ass kicked for this nonsense, it's gonna piss people in gb off. the dems, anyway.
prolly make him a hero w a lot of them, but....
xmas74
(29,674 posts)Are mad at him about not vaxxing. Packers are one of the hottest teams playing right now and Rodgers might have ruined it.
For many, politics and religion don't matter when football season starts. For them, football is their religion and anyone who screws it up will be lucky they don't get a public stoning.
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)Many people test positive but never develop any symptoms. They can still spread Covid, but not as effectively and not to the extent that those who are symptomatic (coughing and sneezing) can.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)TheRickles
(2,065 posts)The PCR is a very problematic test on which to be basing our public health strategy. Even inactive viral fragments can generate a positive test result if the test run is set for a high degree of sensitivity (>30 augmentation cycles), so a positive PCR result is by no means definitive, unfortunately. This does not excuse his behavior and deception, just to be clear.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)on this high rate of false positives? Do you think this means that people who get no symptoms really didn't have it at all?
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)It has some good links to specific studies, and it includes a video clip where Dr. Fauci voices his concerns about PCRs:
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/false-positive-covid-tests-will-extend-unjustified-lockdowns-fauci-admits-miniscu?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20False%20Positive%20Covid%20Tests%20Will%20Extend%20Unjustified%20Lockdowns%2C%20Fauci%20Admits%20%27Miniscule%27%20Accuracy%20%28XgL4zn%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJyaWNrLmxlc2tvd2l0ekBnbWFpbC5jb20iLCAia2xfY29tcGFueV9pZCI6ICJLMnZYQXkifQ%3D%3D|
Bottom line: PCR is so sensitive that it can detect residual fragments of the virus, inert particles that have no ability to infect others. How often that's the case with a positive PCR depends on the sensitivity of the test, and that piece of information (the PCR threshold level, or augmentation cycle number) is unfortunately almost never included in media reports about Covid outbreaks.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Minax
The positive line can be bright red or so faint you almost can't see it. We saw this change in my FIL as the virus ran its course. It showed an extremely faint and broken line. Of course its not possible to know whether he was infectious at that point. No layman know which is really unfortunate
LiberalFighter
(50,949 posts)It would had been a different story if he had been vaccinated and been infected. But he lied and put other people at risk that thought he was.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Apparently the bottle of water he paid big bucks for gives you immunity to COVID. Well obviously it does not, and the other problem is vaccination and immunization are considered synonyms so everyone just figured he got his shots when he didnt.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)He said it was no big secret.
Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)Their two best receivers and some coaching staff.
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)And what level of sensitivity their PCR tests were set at. It'd be interesting to know.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Without the booster, most have few antibodies at 6 months. Do we know if the team all had booster shots? Breakthroughs are increasing as antibodies decline.
In the last week, 3,192 new breakthrough cases -- infections in people who have been vaccinated -- were reported, with 106 more vaccinated people hospitalized, Massachusetts Department of Public Health officials said Tuesday. [b]Their report brings the total number of breakthrough cases to 54,199, and the death toll among people with breakthrough infections to 438.[/b] https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/3192-new-breakthrough-cases-in-mass-32-more-deaths-in-vaccinated-people/2549397/
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)a vanishingly small error rate when performed 3-5 days after exposure (when many are still pre-symptomatic).
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)(not sure why the URL is so long)
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/false-positive-covid-tests-will-extend-unjustified-lockdowns-fauci-admits-miniscu?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20False%20Positive%20Covid%20Tests%20Will%20Extend%20Unjustified%20Lockdowns%2C%20Fauci%20Admits%20%27Miniscule%27%20Accuracy%20%28XgL4zn%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJyaWNrLmxlc2tvd2l0ekBnbWFpbC5jb20iLCAia2xfY29tcGFueV9pZCI6ICJLMnZYQXkifQ%3D%3D|
Unfortunately, the embedded link to the video clip where Anthony Fauci explains the limitations of the PCR has been deleted from Twitter.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)so, basically water in his nose.
What an asshole.
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)lie you want and then play the victim card when discovered.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)He never said he was vaccinated. He said he was immunized, which was BS and he hurt his team in the process.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)And inhaling water.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,949 posts)Tribetime
(4,699 posts)There's two policies in the league one for Star players and one for other players
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)"Are you vaccinated?" has 3 answers: Yes, No, and Partially.
"I am immunized" sounds like something his agent cooked up.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... that his lungs don't get ripped to shreds by this virus.
What a dumb ass, there's enough data out there now to show it works
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)and he knew he was not answering the question.
He lied directly, and also through omission.
He lied.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Knowing that no one would want to look like they didnt know what immunized meant. Its crazy that no one asked follow up. Its also crazy how many people protected this secret. His press conferences were a policy violation and the NFL did nothing.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:53 AM - Edit history (2)
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Response to Celerity (Original post)
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Traildogbob
(8,752 posts)Back when he screamed at the Bears fans, I own you, after a score. I think Covid is owning him about now.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)He'd miss KC and Seattle
And I hope for one of two things; either Love has two sensational games, or the pack fall a part and never recover the rest of the season
twodogsbarking
(9,759 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Jeez
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)with his preparation for appearances as guest host on Jeopardy. I read that he spent so many hours watching tapes and practicing voice inflections. Like he highly respected the show and highly respected knowledge.
And then he does something that shows he really doesn't respect knowledge at all. It's one thing to follow what you think is best for your own personal health... But you have a responsibility to other people.. your team & your fans which was ignored and hard to forgive
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xmas74
(29,674 posts)Shailene Woodley is well known for her love of woo. She has discussed in the past how she eats clay, suns her vagina to soak up vitamin D and she makes all of her own "medications". Her bff, Miles Teller, is rabidly anti vax and anti mask even though he had covid.
Olivia Munn has her own problematic issues, such as misogyny, but she never crapped all over GB like Woodley has. Woodley refuses to even visit GB and has stated that she will not stay there. She has expressed her views of wanting him somewhere bigger with a warm environment. Munn actually moved to GB w him and was seen out in public regularly shopping. Danica Patrick, another ex, also stayed there often and was nice to the public. Shailene isn't the same.
Tree Lady
(11,474 posts)As well as other parts. 🙄😧
But his family is also a trip. They're right wingers.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Woo... I confess.
Jeez, the only way I know her at all is from her character on HBO.
He sounds like a wayward soul so giving him a pass
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)than the person who hosted Jeopardy. He needs help big time.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)He's an intelligent guy who was accepted to Stanford Law but declared fir the NFL draft. He knows he's winding down his professional career. He had no chance at getting Jeopardy but a good showing could jumpstart a future career in TV. He'd be fine working games, on a sports entertainment show, daytime tv or even another game show.
This has ruined so much of what he's working towards. I don't think either of them realize he's broken the trust of so many fans.
Btw-supposedly she was required to vaccinate. She's working on a show filming in Canada rn and reports have stated the set has mandatory vaccination. Reports are also stating she might be investigated by the production's insurance company to see if she actually complied.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,949 posts)Same goes for Brett Favre with his money grabbing. Oh and I believe he supported Trump.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)Rodgers keeps his politics quiet. His fiance was Green but might be more Our Revolution. His family are all Trumpers.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)I'm a huge Packer fan but I'm also angry. A person can be both.
By that you can also tell who is a Bears fan or a Vikings fan by their responses.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)You care nothing about. Why is that?
Celerity
(43,408 posts)Tribetime
(4,699 posts)It's all about TV ratings. You can bet if it was a player on the Browns that did this that the situation would be 100% different. The NFL knew about this so did the Packers. This kind of enforces the feeling it me that games are fixed
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)If only the CDC had approved the vaccine for 5- to 11-year olds a little sooner.
Jackass!
ironflange
(7,781 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Provide a fake vax card?
xmas74
(29,674 posts)He applied for consent to count his alternative treatment as a vaccination but was denied. He was considered non vaccinated by the NFL and the NFLPA and was subject to its protocol.
It's still a shit move and shows a lack of leadership but he did follow protocol while at work.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Like minded idiots.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Fuck Aaron Rodgers.
Mysterian
(4,588 posts)Would be a good example to some other anti-vax assholes.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Mysterian
(4,588 posts)I hope he gets put on a ventilator and never takes another snap.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Yeah fuck that guy.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)Tree Lady
(11,474 posts)He was always team number two. I can't believe he was stupid enough to play a contact sport and not get vaccinated, I always thought he was smarter than that.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)I'm a Chiefs fan and like the commercials that him and Mahomes have done together.
True Dough
(17,305 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)The way they've been playing they need another dozen or so Packers to say they were em..."immunized"
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)we don't want our WIN against GB to be based on their scrubs playing
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)Arizona fans want to know. 👀
Kidding.
Extremely irresponsible of him, though, especially for not following NFL protocols for the unvaccinated.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Aaron Rodgers, and anyone who does what he did, should be in fucking prison.