Manchin says he won't vote to overrule Senate parliamentarian

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said on Wednesday that he won't vote to overrule the Senate parliamentarian during the upcoming debate on Democrats' social and climate spending bill.

"People might be all excited about something now. ... It might not even fit in the bill because on our side it doesn't fit, it doesn't come within the rules of reconciliation," Manchin told Fox News's Bret Baier.

"I'm not going to vote to overrule the parliamentarian," Manchin added. "I'm not going to do that; they all know that."

Because Democrats are trying to bypass Senate Republicans on President Biden's spending plan, they have to comply with the rules governing reconciliation, an arcane budget process that lets them avoid the filibuster.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-says-he-wont-vote-to-overrule-senate-parliamentarian/ar-AAQieTu

[msongs]

1. yeah what does mitch mcC think? nt

[Walleye]

2. Is there anything about the US Senate that isn't arcane?

[brooklynite]

13. Having a Parliamentarian is arcane?

[orleans]

21. doesn't this one tend to be a pain in the ass negative nay-sayer that should have been

replaced?

[FBaggins]

3. I don't see how deportation protection gets past the Byrd rule

It isn't enough that a proposal has some budgetary impact. It has to be more than incidental to the primary purpose of the bill.

Paid leave, OTOH, strikes me as qualifying. Not sure what Manchin sees there.

[FBaggins]

6. Do you feel the same way about the infrastructure bill?

[FBaggins]

10. We "got there" months ago

But some members are "stop(ing) votes from even happening"

Interestingly enough. They're probably stopping the votes because they know that the bill will pass. Which is particularly craven if you think about it.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Dude sure loves his Maserati

but doesn't even have the grace to thank the gullible WV voters for his profound riches.

[BlueTsunami2018]

7. Of course not.

As a rule, he won’t do anything to help people. However, isn’t reconciliation strictly for budgetary issues because of the Byrd Rule? I don’t see how minimum wage falls under that jurisdiction. The parliamentarian has this right I think.

There hasn’t been an override of the parliamentarian in forty-five years. There hasn’t been a dismissal since 2001 when Trent Lott fired the serving parliamentarian for not cooperating more with Republicans.

Manchin runs the country and he’s giving it over to the fascists on purpose. And there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.

[Demovictory9]

9. Immigration. Activists are going to be angry if no citizenship stuff gets passed

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. Schumer could just fire her. Nt

[FBaggins]

12. Wouldn't do a bit of good

If Manchin isn’t willing to override her, he certainly isn’t willing to support Schumer ruling in the opposite direction with a new parliamentarian (or vote for the eventual bill with that provision in it).

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. A new parliamentarian could issue a new ruling, which would then have to be overridden

Would Manchin side with the GOP to override the new parliamentarian?

[FBaggins]

20. Yes - I think that's likely

I don’t expect it because I don’t expect that a new parliamentarian would rule any differently- and if it happened I would expect a number of defections.

[MichMan]

14. Do you believe Schumer can just do that unilaterally?

[tritsofme]

15. Indeed he can, but it would be unlikely to do any good.

A new parliamentarian would rule the same way, because she just interprets the rules, it’s up to senators to change them if they disagree.

Not to force the parliamentarian to lie and do bad work.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. Yes, he can

Trent Lott did in 2001.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/05/08/key-senate-official-loses-job-in-dispute-with-gop/e2310021-0f14-4667-a261-54e6c033207c/

[MichMan]

18. Might take awhile to hire a new one.

Might have to schedule a few votes in the meantime