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I trust President Biden on the BBB (Original Post) Beachnutt Nov 2021 OP
The doom and gloom here is ... Odd, to say the least mcar Nov 2021 #1
:) Predict passing the BBB will generate more anger and unhappiness, Hortensis Nov 2021 #4
This is a great list mcar Nov 2021 #8
It's not Biden I'm worried about...nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #2
+1 myohmy2 Nov 2021 #3
Thx...appreciate the + attitude PortTack Nov 2021 #5
I trust Biden. I don't trust Manchin or Sinema. Silent3 Nov 2021 #6
I trust Biden of course. I trust Manchin to be who he's always been, Hortensis Nov 2021 #9
Biden's not the problem qazplm135 Nov 2021 #7

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. :) Predict passing the BBB will generate more anger and unhappiness,
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:48 AM
Nov 2021

actually significantly worse.

But oh well. It's become the usual and means we're doing good. I'll never forget the tangible depression in 2018 as Democratic election wins just kept being called all day long and longer.

Odd, as you say, bless their hearts.

Just ran across this little list that made me smile anyway.


mcar

(42,375 posts)
8. This is a great list
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 09:51 AM
Nov 2021

Media needs to start recognizing accomplishments, instead of "yeah, but" when they describe them.

Silent3

(15,274 posts)
6. I trust Biden. I don't trust Manchin or Sinema.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:59 AM
Nov 2021

They'd happily betray whatever assurances they've given Biden on the slightest feigned pretext.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. I trust Biden of course. I trust Manchin to be who he's always been,
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:15 AM
Nov 2021

which is a moderate conservative who identifies more with Democrats than the RW economic, social and religious extremists who've taken over the GOP.

Manchin has a very solid reputation among his colleagues for doing what he says he will and for being open to negotiation within his established limits. He likes Biden, and vice versa. What he's been able to have removed is enraging, but my brief fantasies about him getting run over by a truck (survives but too hurt to come back this term) don't keep me from remembering the many positive things -- like that he has promised to help pass the BBB. He also promised Biden personally to help pass the initial giant rescue package, that he "wouldn't let him fail." And he did, with relatively few cuts, less than many observers expected. I don't forget he voted against the Pubs' 2017 giant tax heist, and on and on.

Sinema? As I think (?) Brian Williams said humorously, absolutely no one trusts her. And no one who's talking seems to know what she's about. I'm wondering if she may turn out to be a self-destructer, one of those whose real talent for self aggrandizement is paired with a package of dysfunctional traits, like a more successful Tulsi Gabbard type. Hope so, actually, but she could stabilize in a reelectable form.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
7. Biden's not the problem
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 01:57 AM
Nov 2021

progressives aren't the problem.

Most of the moderates aren't the problem.

It's a handful of folks and they've been squirrelly for awhile now.

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