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hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
1. Garland was a student of Laurence Tribe who he appears to respect, so I'd doubt it.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 04:59 PM
Nov 2021

That doesn't mean Tribe doesn't want Garland to be more aggressive vis-a-vis prosecuting Trump and the insurrectionists but he's largely defended Garland's legal opinions. So...?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
2. Tribe DEFINITELY wants Garland to be more aggressive.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 05:04 PM
Nov 2021

He's tweeting increasingly strong messages re: just that.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
7. Mueller initially said he did not indict Trump because of DoJ rules.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 07:21 PM
Nov 2021

And if that had not been clarified in later remarks, it could be thought that Garland is allowing indictments from Durham now while DoJ did not allow indictments from Mueller.

Mueller's remarks were later clarified. We don't actually know the full truth even now, but here is a link regarding that clarification.

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/did-mueller-mean-trump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901|

Qutzupalotl

(14,329 posts)
5. I would not agree with that.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 05:37 PM
Nov 2021

Durham was appointed by his predecessor. Garland is not in agreement of the need for a SC in this case, but is willing to let Durham find whatever he finds, a hands-off approach. Firing Durham at this point, or any point, would only raise suspicions that the JD is hiding something.

Better to let things run their course. As flimsy as the Durham indictments are, what is left standing at the end of the day will not amount to much. They will fizzle on their own.

Garland could do a lot more, such as prosecuting Trump for obstructing Mueller. Garland knows he has to hold the country together, though. An obstruction prosecution in a case that many on one side see as entirely bogus could spark further revolt than we saw on Jan. 6. I am speculating here as to his motives, but if Garland knows that a more widely supported action against Trump is coming, such as Georgia election interference, he might think it wise to let the states go first, and bring additional charges later.

Then again, Garland does seem to be building a case against Trump for 1/6, by getting Trump’s foot soldiers to testify that TFG ordered them. That would be a consequential charge, and sorely needed by the country. But so much is hidden from view, it’s hard to say where things stand. Garland’s actions look like nothing from the outside, until they’re ready to indict or drop charges. For that reason, I don’t think we can surmise that Garland disapproves of Mueller’s findings, so I dissent.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
6. Is it Garland's job to hold the country together?
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 07:13 PM
Nov 2021

I thought his job was to apply the law.

Seems like "holding the country together" is a political decision.

Qutzupalotl

(14,329 posts)
9. He is sworn to uphold the Constitution.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 08:07 PM
Nov 2021

With the threat of violent revolution looming, protecting the constitution requires protecting the country supporting it.

I think he would be derelict if he ignored the consequences of his department’s actions. On the contrary, I think he considers them carefully. They concern the fate of our nation.

Mr.Bill

(24,321 posts)
8. While I would say it's important to convict Trump on state charges
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 07:31 PM
Nov 2021

so a republican president can't pardon him, I don't think the actions of state AGs should dictate the timeline for Garland.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
11. Garland and Mueller are both honest but neither are boat rockers.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 07:01 AM
Nov 2021

Both seem afraid of going against established norms, even when the specific circumstances demand such an extraordinary deviation.

I guess Durham is a boat rocker, and eventually we’re going to end up with a problem brought forth by Popper’s Paradox and what not.

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