Journalist Reveals Key Capitol Riot Evidence Mike Pence Is Trying To Keep Hidden

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Journalist Reveals Key Capitol Riot Evidence Mike Pence Is Trying To Keep Hidden
ABC's Jonathan Karl predicts the House select 6 committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack will be looking to get hold of this next.
By
Ed Mazza
11/08/2021 10:22pm EST


Former Vice President Mike Pence is trying to block the release of official photos of him taken on Jan. 6 as supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol in a violent attempt to block the certification of the 2020 presidential election.

ABC News journalist Jonathan Karl told Stephen Colbert that he saw the images while working on his new book, “Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show,” and said they are “wild.”

“He was in a loading dock in an underground parking garage beneath the Capitol Complex,” Karl said. “No place to sit. No desk, no chairs, no nothing. He was in this concrete parking garage.”

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Karl asked Pence if he could publish the pictures ― which were taken by the official White House photographer as part of his taxpayer-funded job ― but Pence blocked their release.

“I have a suspicion that the Jan. 6 committee is going to want to see the photos,” Karl said.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a

[Lovie777]

1. Photos and negatives are long gone and destroyed . .

unless the photographer is using them as leveraged.

Also, these details concerning 1/6/2021 usually comes out when people are trying to sell books.

[multigraincracker]

4. No one uses film anymore. They'd be digital and

digital always pops back up.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. It was official WH photographer- photos are now in national archives. Nt

[lagomorph777]

22. And Biden's team are pushing to release evidence from the archives.

I think this will happen.

[Ocelot II]

16. There are no paper photos except for printouts, or negatives; it's all digital now.

And digital is forever. These photos are almost certainly electronically stored in the National Archives as well as on the memory card in the photographer's camera.

[littlemissmartypants]

42. Welcome to DU, Lovie777. nt

[Hoyt]

2. Not sure what these photos will show other than a scared, hiding Pence.

[TwilightZone]

6. Agreed

We know Pence was removed from the scene. Not sure the details of the room where he was taken are any kind of bombshell. Or surprise. In that situation, one takes what one can get.

[Escurumbele]

23. To me two things happened which I find to be very troublesome.

1. A limousine came to pick up Pence to take him somewhere, and good for Pence that he refused. Maybe he refused because he felt that a mafia type action would follow and could be the end of him, so maybe the reason was not so much about patriotism but self preservation.
The fact they wanted to take him away from the Capitol leads me to believe this was planned ahead of time. Think about it, they take him away, they stall the voter count, or even stop it while the states that were willing to change the votes for trump begin their actions.
2. There were many buses also ready to transport Congress and Senate members away from the Capitol. As in my #1 point, the plan was to disallow the count, no officials, no count. This, I have no doubt, was also part of the plan.

I believe the insurrection was meant to allow for the removal of Pence, Congress and Senate officials from the Capitol building to stop the count.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. I thought that first one was debunked? She basically didn't want to leave

Only because he was afraid he wouldn't get back and finalize the vote. I may be thinking of something else but that's why I remember it

[Lonestarblue]

32. Pence was probably being removed to prevent him from certifying the vote.

But the photos might be important to show who the unknown agents were and whether the limo was government or private. If private, Pence might have thought that Trump’s goons were there for him. Trump has been known in the past to use Mafia tactics to force people to comply with his wishes.

[Grasswire2]

33. news reports told us that he didn't get in the Secret Service car...

....and told the SS man that he trusted him, but did not trust where the car would go.

It may be more complicated, per Karl. I don't totally trust Karl, though.

[monkeyman1]

48. pence made the right call ! trump was off capital grounds !

protocol dictate's that ! no matter if trump is the other side of Pennsylvania Ave. ! the fact is , pence didn't know it , he was in charge of the U.S. that was under attack ! Donald trump left his post as president of U.S. during a insurrection attempt while watching on tv in a tent off capital grounds . plenty of media as wittness's on the ol' boob tub !

[Hoyt]

36. Don't think so. But, nowadays, who knows. Think it's a waste of time getting the photos.

[TwilightZone]

49. That doesn't really make sense.

There was nothing stopping them from returning after removal to certify the vote. In fact, that's exactly what they did.

As for Pence traveling by limo, I would think that's pretty much routine. It was reported that he chose not to go with Secret Service at the time. Claiming that this would lead to a "mafia type action" is laughable.

Sometimes, our conspiracy theories are as unlikely as theirs.

[uponit7771]

17. +1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. And why would the committee care about a picture like that

[Kid Berwyn]

3. Pence Panic

Guy wouldn’t leave with the Secret Service detail until agents he knew arrived.

What a coup!

[Escurumbele]

24. Would you leave with agents that you have never met? Even Pence who brown-nosed his way

through the Vice-Presidency knows that trump is a mafioso, and has no concept of consequences. I bet Pence thought about being taken away and someone finding him the next day floating on some lake.

Think about it, why would there be new agents there? Why not some that he knew? This is more creepy than we all think.

Self-preservation is what made his decision.

[Kid Berwyn]

28. That's what I think, too.

Just wanted to put the moment into this thread, seeing how so much of the January 6 history has already gone down the Memory Hole.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. If they're paid by the taxpayer, they should be accesible through a FOIA.

Or a subpoena.

[Escurumbele]

25. A what??? Subpoena??? What are those? are they any good?

I know, I am being sarcastic, sorry, I am just so frustrated with subpoenas...

[msfiddlestix]

8. Key evidence? Seriously?

Jonathon Karl is trying to gin up a gallon of juice over a tiny drop of spittle to hawk his book.

amazing. This is how desperate we are to see justice happen. And poor Stephen is pimping it out unfortunately because we take any little crumb of insignificance to hang to a thread of hope for these traitorous bastards get their come uppen's.

I would have preferred that we strung these fuckers up on the structure they installed on the Capitol. on the spot.

[malaise]

12. I wouldn't read his book if he gave it away

He's a first rate hack

[msfiddlestix]

15. ✔️✔️✔️

Indeed! Agree!

[Grasswire2]

34. !!!!

Yes. And throughout the Trump presidency, he and Trump had a close but dysfunctional relationship.

Trump talked to him -- and Karl responded -- in the very way an abuser talks to his victim.

Karl wrote "He woos me, flatters me, and then he storms out."

CLASSIC abuse. CLASSIC victim language from the victim of the manipulation.

[malaise]

38. Indeed

The quintessential tool

[Champp]

9. Republicans hiding the truth from Americans

as usual.

[JT45242]

10. Pence doesn't own those photos a FOIA request should get them

Anything part of the official record doesn't need Pence the apologist asshat permission. A Freedom of Information Act request will get those photos.

[azureblue]

11. the question is why

Why is Pence blocking the photo? If it is an innocent and candid as it is described then there should be no problem. But blocking it, especially since he is a Republican and Repubs always are trying to cover something up, raises red flags.

[2naSalit]

14. +1

[Qutzupalotl]

19. The only legitimate reason I can think of

is that the photos would show where we hid the VP during the 1/6 insurrection, which would help the traitors the next time they try to overthrow the country.

The article has already described the location, though. Maybe they can choose a different one for next time, idk.

I suppose in our desire to see justice done, we should consider that we might be shooting ourselves in the foot with some of these revelations. They don’t really help us much, and could bite us in the ass.

[Slammer]

44. location, location, location

"The article has already described the location, though. Maybe they can choose a different one for next time, idk."

The VP has an up-armored limo dedicated to his use every day. Usually it's the president's hand-me-down limo but it has pretty much the same communications and defense capabilities.

The routine for a president or VP who is in possible danger is always to get him to his nearest transportation. Not only does that let him leave if that seems to be the best course of action but it also gives his detail access to their heavier weapons and allows those agents put him somewhere that's 'bulletproof' and can take an RPG blast.

There's no place in the Capitol complex to put a 20,000 pound armored limo except in the parking garage. Well, I guess they could leave it outside and completely exposed but then they'd have to take the VP outside and have him completely exposed while getting him to the car.

They probably had him at the loading dock next to his limo because they didn't know whether it'd be safer to take him away then potentially have to bring him back or whether it'd be safer keeping him at a Capitol which could possibly have armed gunmen hiding inside.

So they compromised by getting him close enough to the car that they could go either back inside or away completely with a minimum of time and effort.

[Talitha]

20. "Why is Pence blocking the photo?"

Maybe he pissed his pants.

[GemDigger]

21. while melting (snowflake) and crying in a corner in a fetal position. nt

[Slammer]

43. image

Why is he blocking the photo?

There's no way to look graceful, powerful, and in charge while walking around in small circles on an empty loading dock guarded by Secret Service agents.

He does still have ambitions to become the next Republican nominee, you know.

There's no way to spin that photo into "Pence is powerful and in charge" while each of his opponents would be more credibly able to spin the photo as "Pence cowers in the basement".

[bucolic_frolic]

13. Did the photos capture parts of notes or papers he was carrying?

"Insurrectionist Souffle. Just add water."

[Zeitghost]

18. And key means exactly what?

Pence standing on a loading dock doesn't seem like any kind of smoking gun to me.

[Escurumbele]

26. Unless there is video and we can hear what he is saying, otherwise you may be right.

I would still like to see them all...Were there a=other people with Pence?

[FakeNoose]

27. Mike Pence refused to leave the Capitol that day

The Secret Service wanted to load him, his family and his immediate staff into a van and take them off the premises, and Mike refused to leave. I think it's to his credit that he insisted on staying to complete the Electoral College certification, even though it was delayed by several hours.

I don't know why Pence would block the photos, because the group didn't remain in the parking garage. Reporters told us that the Pence group had another secure office where they waited until after building had been cleared. I think it was around 8 p.m. (?) they tried to round up the Senators, Congressmembers, and Electors to complete the Electoral certification process. That took a while and it wasn't complete until after midnight on January 7th.

Mike Pence's location was reported throughout the day on Jan. 6th. I don't remember there being any question that he was always inside the Capitol building, in a secure location. Why stir up controversy where there is none?

[Bucky]

46. It's pretty obvious why Pence wouldn't want to offer further incriminating proofs against Trump

Stockholm Syndrome

[CatWoman]

31. now i see why Pence and his entourage were huddled in the garage

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[Grasswire2]

35. the plot thickens. nt

[sakabatou]

37. If he keeps hiding them, can he be nailed for obstruction of justice?

[Grasswire2]

40. Pence's access codes were deactivated for Capitol and for WH

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[malaise]

41. And this lowlife s still defending the SlLobfather

Eff mother's boy.

[Bucky]

45. Some DUers are throwing doubt on that claim. They say Senate offices don't have that security

They're saying it's misleading to call the VP's suite behind the Senate floor a "VP Office Complex" and wouldn't have a high caliber of electronic security access, given the general lack of hi tech security features around the Capitol campus (Sen. Ron Wyden has been complaining about this for several years).

[Grasswire2]

47. some DU-ers will throw doubt on anything.

So the terminology isn't what they think it should be.

Pffft.

[TwilightZone]

50. And some DUers will believe anything...

regardless of the source or corroborating evidence.

Until there's independent confirmation of a claim like that, it should be taken with a grain of salt.