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When the six latest subpoenas were issued by the January 6th Committee---forTrumpies like Flynn, Stepien and others---millions of people across the nation murmured "So fucking what!"
If Bannon and Clark can flip off the Committee and not be led away in cuffs, why should any of these moral pygmies show up and answer questions?
gab13by13
(21,360 posts)in dealing with Bannon so as not to give any indications of DOJ being partisan. If a Democrat's case was sent to Mr. Garland for prosecution he could act more swiftly because I believe that Mr. Garland is a Democrat.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Garland needs to do his job to ensure Congress has the ability to enforce oversight.
There is a thing called a special prosecutor that the DOJ can use to de-politicize these investigations.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Attempted to overthrow the government. There are very specific law about that and the penalties for people convicted of doing that after an investigation.
Hurting someones feelings when enforcing the laws should not be a consideration at any point in applying that enforcement.
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)the enforcement of law. Apathy? Time to allow for due process?
The American people want to see justice. They want to see it applied expeditiously. They are being engrained with the notion that there are two sets of law, and are getting mightily pissed off about it. We are made to sit here fat, dumb and happy as the rule of law is becoming an oxymoron.
Garland, be it a political issue or not, needs to make a decision based on the good of the country - a decision that will reinforce our faith in the system. Sometimes the good of the country means not hiding the issue in obscurity or indecision.
Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)It was the RW Republican traitors and insurrectionist. So they're the ones we have to prosecute. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Garland needs to do his job and not have any worry about looking partisan.
At the moment, he has bigger problems with how things look by not doing a damn thing. People are pissed and want action.
Apologists for this inaction need to stop. The populace at large has this figured out and want to feel safe again. The only way to do that is to put these traitors in jail, and Im fine with them starting with Bannon.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)think about it when Bannon is jailed?
Please, ENOUGH with that, there are no excuses for Garland not holding "the rule of law", and not enforcing the meme that "no one is above the law", these are memes that no one believes in anymore thanks to people like Garland.
Enough defending Garland, he needs to do his job, or resign.
Watch this video by Glenn Kirschner, it is perfect for this discussion:
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Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)live love laugh
(13,118 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)The right is going to call any action he takes partisan. Our response should be, going after criminals isn't partisan.
infullview
(981 posts)Garland is not strong enough to do his job. For all we know, some conservative group threatened his life and he's afraid to do his job.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)live love laugh
(13,118 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)We had a planned attempt to overthrow our government, yes they were probably Republicans, but that can't be a reason to not prosecute, Get it done Garland, the country is counting on you!
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Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)like Flynn will actively encourage the execution of both Democrats and any Republicans who they feel have betrayed them. I believe Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff and others are in mortal danger if these treasonous terrorists arent held accountable.
If anyone thinks Im being hyperbolic, I dont think youve been paying close enough attention. This is far, far from politics as usual. After executing leaders the Trumpists will come after regular people like us.
Those of us who see this potential future are feeling despair with the lack of action.
Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)consequences because there seem to be none, so far.
The republican party is the new mafia, anyone who doubts that has not been paying attention.
Lonestarblue
(10,012 posts)And there is no oversight of government. Thats not politics, its reality. Lets put the shoe on the other foot. In 2024, if Biden loses because there is significant and credible evidence of Trump fraud but swing states have certified the fraudulent results, what happens? Democrats obviously would not attack the Capitol, but Republicans could well be in charge of both Houses of Congress and would eagerly certify the EC counts. Then what? Obviously, multiple lawsuits would be filed, but if they all go to the SC does anyone have faith that they would not support the Republican?
This is my nightmare scenario for 2024 because Republicans have practically announced through their new state laws and their replacement of election officials who certified a fair election with ones who proclaimed the election stolen that this is their plan. And we do nothing to stop them, even refusing to pass the voting rights bill. This is how democracy dies, and its already in a coma.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)I think our younger gen dems are concerned & actually have some fight in them, but the old guard? I get a "business as usual" vibe from the elder block of our party.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Just as they don't watch endless hours of Cable News or spend their days on political blog.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)We are in an echo chamber here, but most of the country doesnt even know or care who Garland is.
Nevertheless, we pay his salary and he needs to read the list of his job requirements because Im pretty sure that somewhere in there it says, Assist in protecting the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic
Magoo48
(4,716 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)I hope I'm wrong.
Bettie
(16,110 posts)I guess there is no need for anyone to ever answer a congressional subpoena again. I mean, if there is no enforcement mechanism then it isn't a thing at all, is it?
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)not answering a republican subpoena will cause arrests and prison time.
Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)Garland must be held responsible for not jailing Bannon and the rest. Garland MUST RESIGN is Bannon is no in jail this week.
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)I still want to see justice done in America.
I've been feeling that way since Bush & Cheney got away with war crimes, but justice is always the goal I seek & I will not give up on it & sink into an attitude of "it doesn't matter, nothing ever happens." To do that would be to surrender to injustice & that's something I will never do.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)for Bush . Cheney Rice etc.
Hell, apparently Rice is seeking office. She and her Mushroom Cloud cohorts should be locked up in max prison for the next two decades at least. But she's doing quite well for herself and has been since she left the Bush Admin.
Taking your point of not surrendering. You must be talking about surrendering Hope.
Because surely, you're not forming an army of justice activists and leading a call for action at the Justice Dept, or are you?
If you are, then sign me up! If you aren't doing something to that effect, I wish you good luck,
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)anyways... Gonna have to take a long break from everything, because we'll all be suddenly "woke" when the consequences of no justice rears it's really fucking ugly head, when we see things happen that wouldn't never have been considered possible in our democracy.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)You are absolutely right.
The "strategy" of "look forward, not back" has brought us to this place.
Toughen up, Dems. Toughen up. This is an existential moment.
Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)He needs to act NOW. This isn't some complicated fraud case.