Pelosi Calls for Investigation Into Paul Gosar

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2021/11/09/pelosi-calls-for-investigation-into-paul-gosar/

Pelosi Calls for Investigation Into Paul Gosar
November 9, 2021 at 1:33 pm EST By Taegan Goddard

“Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is calling for a series of investigations into Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) after the Arizona Republican took to Twitter this week to advertise violence against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and President Biden,” The Hill reports.

Said Pelosi: “Threats of violence against Members of Congress and the President of the United States must not be tolerated.”

[tenderfoot]

1. Ohhhh!!! An investigation!!!!! That leads to nowhere.

[CrackityJones75]

4. What else is she specifically supposed to do?

[tenderfoot]

7. Not sure but I'm guessing that he'll suffer nothing for it

eom

[ShazzieB]

11. Here's a thought.

Since you admittedly don't have any better ideas, how about we wait and see what happens?

[tenderfoot]

12. What I'm saying is, nothing will happen.

I hope I'm totally wrong.

[ShazzieB]

15. Yeah, that's what you said.

Personally, I trust Nancy to know what she's doing. But maybe that's just me. 🤗

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. I'm with you. But, maybe this is the time something will happen?:). BTW,

not really sure what there is to investigate it's in black and white isn't it? Surely somebody can draw up a censure document tonight?

[EndlessWire]

41. She could clean House.

She's running that show. She could take it all the way to a damned VOTE, if she wants. Inciting a member of the public into trying to kill a member or the President cannot be tolerated. And I don't think Pelosi kids around that much. For all we know, she might be legally compelled to do something. What if something happens? What would she say?

Isn't this evidence of a higher crime under United States Code Title 18, Section 871? I regard this as a threat, which is a felony, and this guy should be arrested and tried for it. He should go to prison for this! Maybe she is consulting about going after him for more than just an expulsion! It's a criminal act. It's not free speech!

[TomSlick]

57. The Speaker does not have the authority to expel a representative.

Expulsion from either house requires a two-thirds vote of the members of that house. (U.S. Const, Article I, Section 5, Clause 2)

[Gore1FL]

62. Stripping of committees would be a good start. nt

[EndlessWire]

64. It would stop there.

He doesn't care about that. He's looking good to the GOP. He needs to be prosecuted for this. He needs to be given some worries over it. It is atrocious what he did. He should be kicked out for his lack of judgment, at the very least.

[Gore1FL]

65. Agree, but I'll take committee removal if that's all I can get. nt

[EndlessWire]

67. It's pretty egregious

to post a film showing yourself killing one member and knifing the President. It's offensive to even think of him being in the building. I agree with you, I understand, but if they can prosecute him, they should do that. I'm not going to understand it if they don't. It wasn't just a bad joke. The GOP has found a way to phrase things that are really designed to rile up the followers and hoping that one of them does the deed, and then hiding behind the First Amendment. They think they are above the law. And, then they'll send it to the stacked SC and laugh.

The thing I'd like to see is him getting arrested while he is in the building. A nice little perp walk on the news. But, they did nothing to Bannon after he advocated hanging people, so I guess we won't see anything. But, I don't think Nancy fools around. G-d forbid some demented follower actually did something to one of them; what would we say?

We can't tolerate this stuff anymore.

[EndlessWire]

63. I know this.

That's pretty much what I said in my first sentence. She can organize the vote. She IS in charge and can certainly go after this guy.

[soldierant]

70. You are correct.

Disqialification under the 14th amendment only takes a simple majority, but it's limited as to cause. This wouldn't qualify. If the Committee finds (officially) he was involved in the insurrection, that would qualify. But they are nowhere near releasing official results.

[marble falls]

61. And you're guessing it leads to nowhere.

[paleotn]

30. I have some ideas.....

None of them legal. Fun and enjoyable in a barbaric sort of way, but certainly not legal.

[CrackityJones75]

34. Ooooh please share!

[secondwind]

42. Stay positive, negativity will get you nowhere.............

just sayin'.....

[Murphyb849]

51. Amen 💯

[mahina]

69. ++100

Aloha

[Captain Zero]

50. For which Gosar will not respond to in any way.

He will thumb his nose and threaten another Democrat with harm.

[BradAllison]

55. If an HR department conducted an investigation.....

....he'd be fired in a day.

[iemanja]

2. The secret service should be on this

It's not legal to talk about doing violence to the President.

[RKP5637]

3. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[ShazzieB]

17. I imagine they are.

From what I understand, they investigate any and all threats to those they are sworn to protect.

[onenote]

32. That's not exactly true.

It's not legal to make a "true threat" against the President. s

See Watts v. United States, 394 U.S. 705 (1969) where the Court reversed the conviction of a defendant who had made the following statement: :If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J." That statement clearly is an example of someone talking about doing violence to the President, but the Court concluded that it wasn't a "true threat" -- that is, a statement meant to frighten or intimidate one or more specified persons into believing that they face an imminent risk of being seriously harmed by the speaker or by someone acting at the speaker’s behest.

It's not an easy standard to apply. And even if it didn't constitute a true threat in violation of the statute, it certainly constituted the kind of behavior that Congress should address through censure or even expulsion (although the latter is unlikely to happen).

[EndlessWire]

48. It's a freaking crime

and the guy should go to trial and then prison for it. Enough is enough. These Repubs are not above the law; anyone doing this should be tried for it. None of this, well, we can't win crap! Our nation is a nation of laws, and we should apply the law to everyone equally, including Rep. Gosar!

What makes it worse is that he is a government official himself, and he used a very public platform to illustrate killing a member and causing bodily harm to the President. How far are we going to let free speech go when we have a law on the books which is supposed to prohibit this? And, this is in the wake of Jan. 6th, where gallows were erected.

Bannon and his buddy advocated hanging people, and got away with it. Then Bannon defied a Congressional subpoena, and got away with it. So, Gosar probably doesn't anticipate much, either. But, the House member Ocasio-Cortez has indicated that she feels threatened, but she is not President.

This is all horrible. Little Republican thugs. Who the hell voted for these creeps?

[bucolic_frolic]

5. The Expulsion Train is being fueled

If you can do one you can do dozens. Many have written their own ticket.

[monkeyman1]

19. that train will be max'd out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lucinda]

6. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[moreland01]

8. It would be MUCH preferred had she said

"Threats of violence against Members of Congress and the President is illegal and will be prosecuted to the full extend of the law. And if you are a member of congress threatening other members of congress, expulsion is swift and permanent."

Is there no relevant to law to back that up?

[orleans]

22. great question. here's an answer

(i googled)

Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. ... Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_government_officials_of_the_United_States#:~:text=e-,Threatening%20government%20officials%20of%20the%20United,a%20felony%20under%20federal%20law.&text=Threatening%20other%20officials%20is%20a,the%20Federal%20Bureau%20of%20Investigation.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Wow. So it means a vote to turn the matter over

Like Bannon deal?.

[wryter2000]

9. What does it take to expel him?

The House was able to remove MTG from her committees. I don't remember the exact procedure. Was it a majority vote, or did Nancy Pelosi do it on her own? At the very least, we should be able to do that. But expulsion is certainly appropriate here.

[Slammer]

29. MTG

The Republican leadership stripped MTG of being their party's representative on the various committees which she'd been on.

That's a completely separate matter than expulsion from the House.

[Gore1FL]

56. It took the whole chamber when McCarthy failed to act. They could strip Gosar of his.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/04/963785609/house-to-vote-on-stripping-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-from-2-key-committees

[Slammer]

58. memories

Thanks, I misremembered that.

[world wide wally]

10. What's to investigate?

Is he an asshole?
A: Yes, he is an asshole.

[Bleacher Creature]

14. I was about to post the exact same thing. We've all seen the video.

[ShazzieB]

20. Yes, we all know he's an asshole. That's WHY there's going to be an investigation.

He should be censured by Congress at the very least. (Thrown out would be better, but that's a higher bar.) But they HAVE to start with an investigation, because that's how these things work.

Nancy can't just get up there and say, "Hey, everybody, we all know Gosar is an asshole, so let's censure him or take away his committee appointments or something. What do you say?" She'd be laughed out of Washington.

An investigation doesn't just mean "finding out IF" something happened. It's about gathering all the facts and evidence and shoving them in the faces of Kevin McCarthy and all the other Republicans who would rather look the other way. Not sure why anyone thinks that doesn't need to happen.

[monkeyman1]

25. no,beyond the ass hole part , he 's certified brain dead !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Lol

[George II]

13. People are talking about that elsewhere, it seems that a Representative can be censured...

....by a majority vote, and can be expelled by a 2/3 vote.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. House only right?

[mrsadm]

16. Why isn't he just charged by the police?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

21. I think the answer is in the question.

This is Arizona, "where the bad men (and women) are". See former Sheriff Joe Arpaio, pardoned by tfg.

"Ragtime Cowboy Joe"

[ShazzieB]

18. Nancy's right, and I am behind her 100%.

So sick of all the prophets of doom around here.

I'm glad she's starting this, because it's exactly what she should be doing. Go, Nancy!

[johnthewoodworker]

23. There is no Republican/Nazi who is scared of justice or democrats.

[Heartstrings]

24. I seem to remember Kathy Griffin basically losing her career

over a “joke”…..and she didn’t hold a government position.

Double standard much?

[Initech]

28. Yeah the MAGAs lost their shit at Kathy Griffin's stunt.

And remember when Al Franken lost his seat for that photograph? This is a million times worse than both of those incidents!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. Exactly.

[IronLionZion]

26. Expel him from congress

[Initech]

27. Investigation? He needs to be expelled!

And he can take Boebert, Greene, and Cawthorn with him!

[EndlessWire]

31. This guy is in the House, isn't he?

He can be expelled with a two-thirds vote without the Senate, right? So, what are the numbers there? Can't we improve our situation with Manchin, improve the number a smidgen, or something? Does AZ get to replace him with someone right away?

I tried to find the anime, but couldn't. The description is really bad, however. They absolutely need to expel this guy for doing this. What is wrong with these people?? This guy needs to go, period. I expect Pelosi to have a vote on whether to boot the guy. I want to hear some speeches admonishing these aholes that they will all face expulsion if they threaten violence against any member. Get Schiff in there, he's good.

WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? This is horrible. Almost like they're trying to distract us from the Bannon subpoena thing. Get them both!

GO, NANCY!!

[Haggard Celine]

33. He needs to resign to treat his raging case of

Mad Cow Disease. Maybe the Republicans can get him to resign.

[llashram]

43. I thought

it's against the law to threaten to harm the POTUS.

[vlyons]

44. Doesn't a threat against POTUS result in a visit from the Secret Service?

At the very least the SS should be knocking on his door.

[bucolic_frolic]

46. No, no, that would be for the ordinary public

GOP are exempt

[Deminpenn]

45. Just expel him, he can be investigated

afterwards.

BTW, all you need is look at Gosar's eyes to see he's deeply mentally disturbed.

[toughtony]

47. Marjorie

Trash garbage said on Instagram, "Joe Biden is a piece of sh..t". What is that just free speech. She a gov officer living off the taxpayer.

[samplegirl]

49. Yes!

We need to get tuff on these replies!
We can no longer ignore their threats!

[Captain Zero]

52. There are a lot of unbalanced GQP terrorists out there.

These people will commit stochastic terrorism because people like Gosar plant the seed in their warped minds.

[myohmy2]

53. absolutely...

...

[maxrandb]

54. How about change that statement to

WILL NOT be tolerated.

There should be a vote TONIGHT to expel him from Congress.

[Snackshack]

59. Calls for an investigation???

There been several people charged, tried, convicted and sentenced to jail for typing words on Facebook threatening a president. This guy put a video of him hacking and slashing a rep then going after the president and an investigation is called for???

He should have already been charged but that would look partisan…

[shanti]

60. Go get him, Madame Speaker!

[EndlessWire]

66. If we kick him out

Arizona will have to hold a special election to replace him. That's because he is in the House and not the Senate. That means we could gain a seat in Arizona. I'd love to see that happen. Both Sinema and Manchin are in the Senate, so not much good there. But, even though we still hold the majority in the House, it is always good to have yet another seat. We could try for it. More opportunity to get a message out, anyway.

[packman]

68. Holding my breath

I want it done, but history is not on its side