Colorado ICU Nurse: Great Percentage Of COVID Patients Still Don't Believe Virus Is Real, Blame Hosp

[Ohio Joe]

Colorado ICU Nurse: Great Percentage Of COVID Patients Still Don’t Believe Virus Is Real, Blame Hospital For Illness: ‘They’re Calling You A Murderer’

From the middle of the article:

Some believe the hospital is making them sick.

“’I can’t breathe,’” she hears them say. “Exactly. That’s because you have COVID. ‘Well no I don’t have COVID, that’s not real.’ I’ve had these conversations with people.”

Then there’s blame — on the hospitals, doctors and nurses.

“That it’s created by somebody else or created by the media or the government or what not. I’ve never experienced that… There are those who just absolutely will deny it all the way until the moment when they’re no longer alive.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/colorado-icu-nurse-great-percentage-of-covid-patients-still-don-t-believe-virus-is-real-blame-hospital-for-illness-they-re-calling-you-a-murderer/ar-AAQwqbs?ocid=msedgntp

Every last one of the deniers... The liars... The anti-vaxers... Every one of them has the blood of many 10's of thousands on their hands.

[Claire Oh Nette]

2. The GOP counts on this...

They're already planning to steal the unclaimed Social Security from all those who died of Covid.

Mark my words.

[Hekate]

12. How is that even a thing? Please cite a source, or something, anything to back this up?

[mopinko]

40. it might not be a plan, but it is a thing.

dont know if it will end up being statistically significant, but it is true that it is money in the bank when these fools die.

[SCantiGOP]

47. There is no money in a bank

This belongs in the conspiracy category.
You would need a lot of zeroes to show how much one person's Social Security is compared to either the total in the Trust Fund or the total obligation. There is no earmark on who any portion of funds belong to.
Let's not spread totally fabricated ideas. Other sites sometimes pick up threads here and reprint them to show how detached the "liberals" are from common sense.

[mopinko]

50. like i said-maybe not statistically significant,

but most def a cancelled cost.

[IronLionZion]

51. The Social Security Administration is well aware of when people die

and deaths in hospitals are officially recorded.

There has been some fraud where a person dies at home and the family hides it to keep collecting the checks until they get caught.

The GOP plan to steal Social Security will be to privatize it so their financial buddies can profit.

[mahina]

3. We will be playing whack a mole with foolish lies until we can challenge

Crazy town ideas effectively in a decentralized, granular way. I mean all and each of us. Somehow we have to learn how ourselves to teach them how to reason.

There’s no amount of TV ads or national campaigns that are going to do it. They can help but we are the boots on the ground baby, one lost person at a time.

I don’t know how but we have to. With as much love and lack of judgement as we can.

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. My advice to deniers - stay away from the hospitals!

If you think they are making you worse, then stay home and self-medicate with Ivermectin or whatever your internet research tells you is the cure.

[oldsoftie]

7. Yeah, WHY ARE YOU AT THE HOSPITAL if its all fake???

Or do they think they're sick with something ELSE?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. They do think that. And they think doctors kill with ventilators to make money for the hospitals

They think that hospitals get a bonus of $39,000 if they call a case Covid even if it is not. That claim is very popular among the low-logic magats.

They think that doctors are eager to put patients on ventilators to kill them faster so they can get the money faster.

What they don't think through is that when an ICU bed is tied up for four weeks with a Covidiot on a ventilator, there are five or ten surgery patients that can't get surgery during that time because the ICU bed is not available as it should be in case there are surgical complications or complications after surgery.

Bingo. Fill an ICU bed for observation and collect $11,000 a day
.... beats the vacancy and sending the nurses home. Directions from
above are that all ICU beds will be filled and preferably by $11,000
or $39,000 Wuhan virus patients.
39 posted on 2021-09-16 by RetiredTexasVet

[oldsoftie]

43. where are you reading these idiots posts? I simply must look for myself

Because i know its full of other BS too.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. The FReaks at

The FReaks at freerepublic.com (They like to capitalize the FR of any word beginning with fr).
They are proud to be deplorable and think they are so smart because they do their own "research" (follow social media bot links to dubious studies and lies and then apply logical fallacies and plain old stupidity).

The example above about ICU beds (post 39):
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3995529/posts?page=39#39

Example of their racism (post 7):
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3825648/posts?page=7#7

Example where they badly misinterpret statistics due to their confirmation biases, leading to violence (post 64):
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4006347/posts?page=64#64

[oldsoftie]

53. Thank you. Guess I should've known!

[rurallib]

14. you sure don't want out roaming around for gawd's sake infecting people.

[Orrex]

5. I spoke with a doctor last month

He’s had covid patients screaming that they don’t want him to touch them because he’s vaccinated.

And a nurse reported that another patient, with an oxygen tube in her nose, insisted that she couldn’t breathe because of her cloth mask.

They are fucking assholes and they deserve no more accommodation than any other person actively engaging in an attack on public health.

[oldsoftie]

6. Even trump has told them more than once to get 'his" vaccine.

What the hell is wrong with these people?
Apparently some will believe ANYTHING they're told as long as it doesnt come from the government

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Anti-vax is emotionally burned into these covidiots; not even tRump shakes their faith

Well lets see, didn’t Trump suggest people get vaccinated at a rally?
Abbott and Desantis are vaccinated.
It is not mutually exclusive to be provax and conservative.
No matter how much you and others try to create that idea.
183 posted on 2021-09-09 by MarMema


To:MarMema
Trump appointed the guy who created the disease to run the cure?
Ii Love Trump, but he rushed a cure that is already worse than the disease.
The jab has become the weapon of war against our Liberty.

Now get the Hell off this Forum,.
We support Freedom. You support slavery.
Bug off!
This is war and you are on the side of the enemy.

189 posted on 2021-09-09 by P-Marlowe (I got the
< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)

[oldsoftie]

41. "the cure is worse than the disease". Wow.

On FB I posted my shot record from the military showing tetanus, flu, yellow fever, etc, shots and labeled it "my FIRST vaccine mandate". Some of the responses were just ridiculous.

Its gotten to where i have a list of people that just need to get a very bad case of this shit just to see how real it is. And i hate that i feel that way.

[keep_left]

39. Yeah, and when Drumpf told them to get vaxxed...

...they even booed their God Emperor. They're so damn brainwashed.

[oldsoftie]

42. At that point I saw he no longer controlled the monster he created

Some of the "Q" people are now saying that trump "sold out" although i cant figure out to WHO.

[IronLionZion]

52. I got Dolly Parton's vaccine

I refuse to call it the Trump vaccine even if it helps his idiot supporters.

[oldsoftie]

54. Well, she certainly gave more money than HE did!

And thats the one I got too

[3catwoman3]

8. If these idiots don't trust the hospitals, nurses and ...

...doctors, they can just stay the hell home.

[irisblue]

9. #HermanCainAward contestants. Also, dumb and gullible fools

[SleeplessinSoCal]

10. The Post Truth America Sucks!

I still believe it's owing to the bestie of tfg, Putin, and his internet polluters. Then right wing voices echo them like little treasonous money grubbers.

[Javaman]

11. well, their stupidity will eventually fix itself. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. How many children / immuno-compromised / breakthrough cases will have die first or get Long Covid?

[Javaman]

25. ask the repukes, not me. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Your post neglected to mention any collateral damage while their problem was "fixing itself"

... as if it didn't matter.

It matters.

[Javaman]

30. I got my shots. I did my part

I still wear a mask

Like I said, go ask the repukes.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. Because dead children can't answer. . . . nt

[Javaman]

32. Holy shit

you are honestly pissing up the wrong tree here

I’ve had family members die from Covid.

Like I said go ask the fucking god damn repukes

And leave me the fuck alone

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. Fine. Sorry to hear of your loss. It's a terrible disease. . . . nt

[Javaman]

34. Welcome to block. Nt

[orangecrush]

18. Yup.

[andym]

13. Brainwashing is real and dangerous

Something needs to be done ASAP to shut down the nonsense pouring forth on the Internet and from right-wing propaganda sources.
"Science, not nonsense!"

[Evolve Dammit]

19. They say free speech. I say it intentional lies contributing to death and a pandemic spread.

Yelling "Fire" in a theater is a crime. Why aren't these blatant lies that result in deaths?

[andym]

22. Trumpers need to hear that the "Freedom to lie" brings with it responsibility

and that responsibility has consequences.

[Evolve Dammit]

24. Big Time. Allowed and encouraged for last 5 years.

[BlueJac]

20. I say fuck them at this point!

They don't deserve sympathy at this point in their brain washed mind they are right and everyone is against them. I am so done with them!

[Pepsidog]

21. If there not vaccinated make them pay for hospital care if they get sick.

[OAITW r.2.0]

23. Seems like Insurance Companies could issue a clear and simple directive.

Last edited Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

As of 11/30/21, if you remain unvaccinated and contract the virus....you are on your own, financially. Then they deniers/hoaxers can complain about how unfair it is that they have to pay for their stupidity.

[Hortensis]

35. :) How would that fit with universal healthcare?

We don't have it yet, of course, but

a slew of state and federal regulations in the last three decades have heavily restricted the ability of insurance companies to use health factors in issuing or pricing polices.

In 1996, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act began prohibiting the use of health status in any group health insurance policy.

And the Affordable Care Act, passed in 2014, prevents insurers from pricing plans according to health – with one exception: smoking status.

We've always cheered those protections/expansions of availability for people needing health coverage, of course, but we didn't foresee attempted RW takeover of the government using pandemic disease and sparking rebellion against vaccination.

[OAITW r.2.0]

36. I'm a smoker....I should pay higher premiums than a non-smoker.

And anti-vaxxers ought to be prepared to pay for their bad habits.

[Hortensis]

37. Agree. It'd require changes to the law, though,

even if only change to federal law (congress!) would do, so until then it can't be done.

[DBoon]

44. getting a vax is much easier than quitting smoking

And most smokers don't deny it causes health problems

[Pepsidog]

45. Very thoughtful response. As a matter of principle those who decide against getting vaccinated and

reject the science should stand by their values and refuse to seek medical treatment at hospitals. They should go on google and research and pursue one of the many treatments recommended by such notable scientific heavyweights like Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers. But of course, they have no shame and tweet “pray for me” on the way to the hospital. Gotta give it to the real anti-vaccine zealots for they will go down with the ship and die while tweeting and posting on FB that the pandemic is a hoax. At least they have the courage of their convictions. I bet if Covid resulted in a bloody death like Ebola or produced visible signs like smallpox the repugnant rw anti-vaccine would take their guns and be first in line to get the jab. The problem is that the public has not seen people killed by Covid. The media must show what Covid does to the body in death. My mother died of sepsis many years ago and I was shocked to see her lifeless body bloated beyond recognition lying on her hospital bed.

[Jose Garcia]

38. Would you be ok with forcing people with HIV to have to pay for their meds if

they were infected due to risky behavior?

[AngryOldDem]

26. I don't care anymore.

I really don’t. If people are bound and determined to be that stupid and ignorant, then they reap what they sow.

[traitorsgalore]

28. GOPlague victims lived hateful lives and died stupid

At least they're gone and can't kill anyone else.

[Mr. Sparkle]

48. There should be a national cult database and these people should be on it.

Its time to name and shame them so we know who they are.

[tiptonic]

49. Its simple

We need two types of hospitals, one for the vaccinated and one for the un-vaccinated. The un-vaccinated one, can be run by the patients families, so they won't be murdered by the doctors. Makes sense to me.