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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:19 PM Nov 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse is going to walk free and eventually into a Congress as a Republican, isn't he?

I watched some of this today and was appalled. I turned it off and had a very sinking feeling.






Kyle Rittenhouse is going to walk free and eventually into a Congress as a Republican, isn't he?



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Kyle Rittenhouse is going to walk free and eventually into a Congress as a Republican, isn't he? (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2021 OP
I wouldn't discount it MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #1
He certainly isn't going to be a nurse. FightingIrish Nov 2021 #2
Some police department will probably hire him if acquited. sop Nov 2021 #7
That too. iemanja Nov 2021 #12
Well he still might. Diablo del sol Nov 2021 #20
Not a chance. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #3
Nonzero chance of that. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #4
Don't think GOPer voters will care about him, just like George Zimmerman. Hoyt Nov 2021 #5
I think his future is in Hollywood. nt DURHAM D Nov 2021 #6
He has the soul of the walking dead! riversedge Nov 2021 #26
He'll be cast as the son of "Kevin Can F Himself" traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #32
I think he will fade into obscurity. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #8
Not a chance waddirum Nov 2021 #37
It is up to the jury...not us...The jury might see through the BS. Stuart G Nov 2021 #9
The jury is going to chip in for a box of tissues for the poor child, he was scared and cornered. dem4decades Nov 2021 #10
...All of what he says is BS..Facts are facts...He went there with a loaded gun...he shot and killed Stuart G Nov 2021 #16
I saw an article that speculated that a mistrial exboyfil Nov 2021 #15
It is easy to see Rittenhouse thought he was the Wyatt Erp of the West. riversedge Nov 2021 #27
He'll walk into another murder iemanja Nov 2021 #11
That is my prediction. LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #13
Didn't George Zimmerman do the same? fescuerescue Nov 2021 #33
Domestic violence with a gun iemanja Nov 2021 #38
He will definitely walk. RandySF Nov 2021 #14
I believe that anything is possible ....50 years ago...in the year 1970...Is that 50 years ago?? Stuart G Nov 2021 #18
Republicans admire murderers now. Kablooie Nov 2021 #17
he would take the Zimmerman path Skittles Nov 2021 #19
I was thinking UnderThisLaw Nov 2021 #21
I fully expected the bailiff to give him a binkie when he started his faux sobbing....... lastlib Nov 2021 #22
Absolutely budkin Nov 2021 #23
But first stop at the Faux Propaganda Network - with this "judge" as PIRRO's lead-in UTUSN Nov 2021 #24
In a word? No. The guy has nothing but attempting to get away with murder going for him. marble falls Nov 2021 #25
It seems very simple to me: He picked up his rifle and went hunting for humans. King_Klonopin Nov 2021 #28
Watch the videos, his behavior does not fit a 'hunting' description Amishman Nov 2021 #30
He is being hailed as hero in some quarters. fescuerescue Nov 2021 #34
Sue the media manicdem Nov 2021 #29
Never in the history of the world... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #31
Spare us. (nt) Paladin Nov 2021 #35
AWW..poor baby. zanana1 Nov 2021 #40
I doubt he is crying. LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #41
I imagine he'll walk away into obscurity like so many others before him. Johonny Nov 2021 #36
The fix is in. 634-5789 Nov 2021 #39
I'll wait for the jury to decide. marie999 Nov 2021 #42
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Nov 2021 #43

FightingIrish

(2,716 posts)
2. He certainly isn't going to be a nurse.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:26 PM
Nov 2021

The Arizona State program he claims to be enrolled in is an online, non degree, course that he enrolled in last month.


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Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
20. Well he still might.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:08 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Although unlikely. He could continue in the current program and then apply. I believe ASU allows people to transition as part of the New American University B.S. set up by the school president.

It looks more like something he did as part of his image make over. The session for him just started in late October.

Edit to add link to ASU Student Newspaper article.

https://www.statepress.com/article/2021/11/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooter-asu-online-student#

Rittenhouse is enrolled as an online non-degree-seeking student, a status which allows students to take individual courses for transfer credit, personal growth or as prerequisites for a desired program, University spokesperson Jay Thorne said in an email.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
3. Not a chance.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:27 PM
Nov 2021

So, he walks from real justice, Who will want a 2 time killer and wounded another with a gun from an area he did not belong in, underaged and purchased the weapon illegally? Normal people will shun this fucker and I hope his "free" life will be fraught with dealing with the consequences, maybe his conscience. The part of his conscious mind that knows he went there precisely to accomplish what he fantasized about and made happen..

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
4. Nonzero chance of that.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:27 PM
Nov 2021

But I'd say the odds are against it.

He will be handed every opportunity by the RWNM but he doesn't appear to have the mental acuity to seize the opportunity. He's a HS dropout, but he's not a Savant.

He's a pawn.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Don't think GOPer voters will care about him, just like George Zimmerman.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:27 PM
Nov 2021

They’ll applaud the right to shoot if you b scared, which is what they really care about.

But they know Ritt should have stayed home and not tried to be a Hero.

traitorsgalore

(1,396 posts)
32. He'll be cast as the son of "Kevin Can F Himself"
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 09:12 AM
Nov 2021

Then he'll murder a few actors and everyone will say "who could have ever predicted it?"

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
9. It is up to the jury...not us...The jury might see through the BS.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:35 PM
Nov 2021

....Yes, Rittenhouse is full of BS..Will the jury see that?...My guess is ..Yes.!!

....The jury can convict...if it wants to, not listening to all what the judge says....Yes it can...

..............Rittenhouse can appeal if he is found guilty...but the jury can see through the BS........
..............and it is BS...Rittenhouse brought a gun to an event and used that gun to kill...Is that it?.........

.................Is that one hard to see, or easy to see?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOU TELL ME!!! Stuart G

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
10. The jury is going to chip in for a box of tissues for the poor child, he was scared and cornered.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:44 PM
Nov 2021

His testimony was tailored to fit into a reasonable force defense IMHO.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
16. ...All of what he says is BS..Facts are facts...He went there with a loaded gun...he shot and killed
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:54 PM
Nov 2021

someone...Is that correct?...Can the jury see that?...loaded gun?..Is that right?....Was he violently
attacked with a loaded gun?...or just told to leave?...He had a ....loaded gun...

......What is the purpose of a ........loaded gun?....poor boy ...sad story... ...

.............I know the purpose of a ....loaded gun....and I think the jury will too...

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
15. I saw an article that speculated that a mistrial
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:52 PM
Nov 2021

might have jeopardy attached because of misbehavior of the prosecutor. On the other hand you see Brady violations being retried all the time. Sounds like it is unlikely to have jeopardy attached, but you can't use silence of a defendant as a basis for guilt - it is an integral part of our legal code irrespective of who is being tried. Also if a judge excludes something, you keep it out. You would almost think the prosecution is sandbagging - they wouldn't do that... Right??

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
13. That is my prediction.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:49 PM
Nov 2021

It is always possible he will now steer clear of conflict and adapt the “if you look for it you, will find it” philosophy of a person who has a few years of wisdom on them, but I think the militias showering him with praise will get him to join them officially and eventually he will go too far.

iemanja

(53,035 posts)
38. Domestic violence with a gun
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 02:38 PM
Nov 2021

According to Wikipedia:

In 2013, Zimmerman's estranged wife called 911 to report that Zimmerman had assaulted her father and was threatening her with a gun. Zimmerman was not charged over the incident.[41] In November of that same year, Zimmerman was charged with felony aggravated assault after he allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend during a domestic violence incident. The case was later dropped.[42] In January 2015, Zimmerman was again charged with domestic assault after allegedly throwing a wine bottle at a different girlfriend. Again the charges were later dropped.[43][44]


The next year, someone tried to kill Zimmerman and was later convicted.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
18. I believe that anything is possible ....50 years ago...in the year 1970...Is that 50 years ago??
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:01 AM
Nov 2021

Yes, in 1970....I never thought I would own a computer with lots and lots of memory...and be communicating with it
from one of my bedrooms...Computers were on ....Star Trek....Yet here we are....

In a trial..........anything is possible...the jury is the jury...It is up to them and their deliberations...not us..

Anything?.....Watch ....12 Angry Men...1957 movie....I repeat...anything...then watch a movie where
....................the killer gets caught....MONSTER.. Aileen Wuornos...true story.......................
....................Killer got caught and executed.........link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
17. Republicans admire murderers now.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 11:57 PM
Nov 2021

The GOP is the party of death, no question about it.
And they don't even care.

UnderThisLaw

(318 posts)
21. I was thinking
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:13 AM
Nov 2021

he’ll be Attorney General the next time a Republican is elected President.

Regardless, the DU chapter of his fan club will rationalize it somehow

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
22. I fully expected the bailiff to give him a binkie when he started his faux sobbing.......
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:16 AM
Nov 2021

Sheeeesh, what a weasel!
(I know, insult to the Mustelidae family..........)

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
28. It seems very simple to me: He picked up his rifle and went hunting for humans.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 02:28 AM
Nov 2021

He was brainwashed into believing he would be hailed as a hero -- especially in the Qanon / MAGAT world.
He was brainwashed into believing those people he was hunting down were a lesser species and deserving death.
They were rioters and looters (according to the fucking judge!) and he was a hero vigilante.
Would he have reacted the same way to the rioters at the Capitol on Jan 6th?

Anyway, he achieved his goal -- he shot and killed him some liberals. That was the intention.

His prey fought back and tried to stop him, but he had a rifle and they did not (just a skateboard)

His defense in court: He was scared and felt threatened . . . by the people he was tracking down to kill . . .

You can't make up this insane shit.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
30. Watch the videos, his behavior does not fit a 'hunting' description
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 06:58 AM
Nov 2021

The FBI drone footage pretty much refutes hunting for people to shoot conversation.

However, was he there to deliberately provoke what happened? That is quite possible, and the TikTok 'just trying to be famous' quote that came out today definitely helps support that. The problem is that is just about the only bit of evidence they've been able to introduce to support that theory. With the other examples of him rendering aid and putting out fires, the prosecution has not come close to proving that was his motive.

And it might not matter under WI law even if that was his motive. Someone who loses the right to self defense by provoking others, regains it my disengaging / retreating. Video shows he did this prior to each shooting.

I've said several times that this case is going to underscore the difference between what is right and what is legal.

I expect him to end up not guilty on the murder charges based on WI law and the evidence presented at trial. Doesn't mean that he is innocent, just found not guilty under law.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
31. Never in the history of the world...
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 07:41 AM
Nov 2021

…has a then under 18 year old, been so hated and wanted punished, broke and jobless for life all over a smirk. And admit it, the smirk is what the vast majority of posts about him are. “Did you see that smirk? He should be denied jobs, money, homes and banished for life for a smirk. And by the way, we are the party of not feeling people should be punished for life for their crimes. But a woke crime of smirking? That’s a lifer!”

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
41. I doubt he is crying.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 03:56 PM
Nov 2021

He won his lawsuit and doesn’t have to work for the rest of his life. If Twitter can’t separate you from your money (get you fired), it has no power.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
36. I imagine he'll walk away into obscurity like so many others before him.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 11:36 AM
Nov 2021

He looks like a prime candidate for alcoholism and meth. He's a poorly raised person with little in his background to suggest he has much ability to profit from this beyond that which he's already has. As soon as he isn't the flavor of the month, he goes back to being nobody. And a nobody with a poor education and a triple homicide in his background. I mean, it's not exactly a gateway to future success for most people.

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