Here we go back up again (COVID)

[Ms. Toad]

The natonal 7-day rolling average number of new cases started going up again - starting about a week ago. 71,000 average new cases a day at the trough - up to an average of around 76,000 today.

[BootinUp]

1. I want a booster. Nt

[Ms. Toad]

2. I got mine a little over a month ago. n/t

[dweller]

4. Why don't you get one ?

They are trying to get approval for 18+yr old now, but the pre-existing conditions are not hard to meet

Have you tried?

✌🏻

[BootinUp]

6. I will have to look into it. :)

[BigmanPigman]

9. Check this out, I did and found out I qualify.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

[BootinUp]

16. Thanks, looks like I qualify as a former smoker. Nt

[BigmanPigman]

22. That's good news.

Share the list if you can. My sister doesn't qualify unless they drop the age to 60.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. It's so loose now. And CVS asked me ZERO. Now its

just that you are around lots of people.

Hearing they are throwing away stale vaccines makes me think... Hell get it if you can

[Withywindle]

24. That was my experience at Walgreens too

I do qualify as a former smoker but nobody even asked. They just signed me in and stuck me. (And the line was LONG, I had to wait half an hour past my appointment time. I didn't mind.)

[BlackSkimmer]

27. I'm not 65, no underlying conditions, got my booster yesterday at CVS.

Filled out the online form without lying about anything. No problems at all.

[Bettie]

10. I get mine next week

they didn't want to do the booster and flu shot together.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Really? That was like a thing on Twitter - pic of

People getting one in each arm.

[Withywindle]

25. I got mine at the same time

Booster in the left arm, flu shot in the right. The guy said he'd been doing that all day!

[Bettie]

32. I was also a couple of days shy of six months

since my second shot, so, we figured it could wait.

I don't really go anywhere anyway.

[USALiberal]

29. CVS asked for nothing!

[SergeStorms]

3. New York has been fairly steady.

I check it every day. Usually around 3200 new cases each day with around 30 - 35 deaths. It's been pretty steady for the past two months or so.

I expected a spike with the colder weather, but the weather really hasn't been that bad so far. I guess there's still plenty of time for it to head upward, unfortunately.

[Ms. Toad]

15. My county in Ohio has been going up for more than two weeks. n/t

[ok_cpu]

28. If I put a graph of my Ohio County's cases in front of you

with no dates, you'd immediately be able to point to the date the majority of the school districts here implemented mask mandates and when they lifted them a couple of weeks ago.

Could be coincidence, but it matches perfectly.

[dem4decades]

5. People are acting like this is over, it's going to be a long winter I'm afraid

[VarryOn]

7. Unfortunately, this is good news for some...

In my office of about 4,000, about 10% still won't come in. They're happy!

[BigmanPigman]

8. I noticed that too, especially in the Michigan,

Minnesota and Wisconsin area. Is the colder weather pushing numbers up? Europe is being devastated by a new wave of Covid and it could happen here again, in fact it probably will but not to as much an extent as past waves since more people are vaxxed. Europe hasn't been vaxxing as many people. Russia...the same.

The CDC has an extensive list of people who qualify for boosters. It turns out I am on that list so in 1 month I will be getting mine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

[tavernier]

13. I got my Moderna booster.

Also flu, shingrix and pneumonia shots. I squirt when I
drink. Unfortunately I caught a cold three days ago and I am coughing and sneezing and walking around with a box of Kleenex and a red nose from tissue burns. No shot yet for the common cold.

[BigmanPigman]

14. You just described 90% of the days

I was a 1st grade teacher. I got a flu shot every year but the colds were non-stop. It was debilitating.

[tavernier]

26. Yes!

I helped out in the cafeteria line of the grade and middle school when my grandson was a student there. I would wipe down the metal tray line after each class went through . Omg, the kindergarten through 5 kids were like the green cartoon slime monsters in the Ghost Buster movie. Their hands went from their noses to touching everything in sight. The tray lines after each class came through were sticky and smeared with a variety of unknown goo. I wiped down with bleach water after each one. The teachers were and volunteers were constantly catching colds.

[albacore]

41. I taught high school, and the students were almost as slimy... just better at hiding it.

The first 10 years were one cold after another, and then - gradually - my immune system caught on to the various rhinoviruses, and I am damn near cold-proof.

Between the 32 vaccinations I got in the Marines, the Moderna shots and booster, and the antibodies from teaching, I should be virus-proof.

BUT. I am masking and avoiding people and washing hands and keeping my hands away from my face. I'm an old fart, and we can't take chances.

[Ms. Toad]

17. I think it's a combination of weather, complacency, charitable events

(it's the season - and many charities are hurting having given them up (or converted to scaled back for the last 2 years).

I've gone to two in the last 3 weeks. At the first, I was the only one who kept my mask on. At the second there were a few more - but not many. Both involved lots of eating, and lots of people packed into a room. Theoretically social distancing was going on - but only theoretically.

On the bright side - my doctor's office (which told me I didn't need to wear a mask back in June) has signs up all over the place requiring masks regardless of vaccination status.

[Scrivener7]

18. Oh, no. It was doing so well, I stopped nervously checking all the time.

And an increase coming as winter sets in is not a good situation.

Crap.

[Ms. Toad]

21. Maybe it's just a small blip.

I don't have my full spreadsheet up to date - but I've been nervously watching the US numbers since our University cases and positivity started going up again.

[BigmanPigman]

23. We are definitely entering the next wave in the US.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Look at the bar graph for new cases in the US. I wonder how bad it will be compared with the last wave.

[Scrivener7]

35. Oh boy. I have a sister recuperating from a fall in a skilled nursing facilty. This is

scary.

I just recently got my shingles shot and was going to hold off for a bit on the covid booster, but I guess I'll schedule this week.

And make sure they give her one in the place too.

[woodsprite]

19. I want one, but have to defer to my cancer docs

They don’t want me getting the booster if my immune system is too low. They’re running labs tomorrow. Unfortunately, my FIL passed away tonight (Alzheimer’s) so we will be heading into the valley of the unmasked and unvaxed in FL (includes hubby’s family) at some point in the near future. I don’t want to get sick since I start radiation soon, but I want to see our family, and I feel guilty, but want desperately to do something I enjoy on my break between chemo and rads. Haven’t seen the family for 2 yrs.

[Ms. Toad]

20. Fortunately,

I was able to get away with just surgery (so my current cancer docs strongly encouraged me to get vaccinated).

It should be just the chemo that lowers immune system, right? (I've had radiation for a prior cancer, but not chemo).

As hard as it is - I'd be tempted to play it safe until I could get the booster. Lower immune system + potentially fewer antibodies from the original vax + great unmasked and unvaxed doesn't seem like the safest bet.

[progree]

30. U.S. daily new cases (7 day avg) on the rise in 27 states

U.S. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Daily new U.S. cases are beginning to increase again -- they are also the highest they've ever been in all previous waves except the past winter wave and the September-peaking wave we've just come down from. Up 7% in last 14 days (latest 7 day average vs. 7 day average 14 days before).

27 states have increasing cases in last 14 days (latest 7 day average vs. 7 day average 14 days before).

World: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html
Daily new cases in the world are rising again. Europe is a hot spot.

[bullwinkle428]

31. My county in eastern Iowa - 39 cases per day last week, 81 cases per day this week.

Yes, case numbers more than doubled in a week.

[Johnny2X2X]

33. It's the weather

People are inside more, schools are in session. At this point, not a lot we can do, just have to let the vaccine mandate play out and hopefully that gets us to a high enough number that it's just not a huge problem eventually.

Life is pretty much back to normal everywhere.

[Ms. Toad]

39. I think the weather plays a role,

But I don't think it's the entire driver.

I think complacency, excaustion, holidays, charity (and other indoor) events are also contributing.

[Pobeka]

34. I'll just repeat myself. As a society I think this is where we are at:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/104027912#post4

AGGGH -- Cases are up, people are dying, we better pay attention and behave ourselves
Phew -- cases are down, I guess we've conquered the virus (but they didn't), PARTY ON!

Wash, rinse, repeat.


Doesn't stop until 90+% of the population gets vaccinated.

[Ms. Toad]

38. Nice, concise, and accurate! n/t

[Pobeka]

42. And sad. :-( n/t

[winstars]

36. So with this new surge more right wing radio jobs should be opening up in a month or so???

[Ms. Toad]

37. Too soon to call it a surge,

but if it turns into one - yup.

Hey - I'm being forced into retirement. Think they would notice if a liberal signed up for one of those jobs?

[winstars]

45. They wouldn't notice until you said word...one!!! LOL

[triron]

40. Combination holidays and stupidity (includes carelessness).

Americans are especially good at stupidity.

[Scurrilous]

43. Kick

[progree]

44. Why COVID cases are surging in states with high vaccination rates -- and what it means for the winter

ahead, Yahoo News, 11/11/21

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/why-covid-cases-are-surging-in-states-with-high-vaccination-rates-and-what-it-means-for-the-winter-ahead/ar-AAQBgME?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

...

The question now is whether above-average vaccination coverage and continued mitigation measures in states such as New Hampshire, Minnesota, Vermont, Illinois, New Mexico, Rhode Island and Colorado — the seven states that have seen the largest increases in COVID cases during the past two weeks —

...

Similar spikes started earlier this fall in European countries with corresponding vaccination rates — another worrisome sign for the U.S.

...

Several factors are driving the sharp increase in cases, health officials say: colder weather forcing people indoors, sometimes without masks; the hypercontagious Delta variant, which can cause breakthrough cases; and waning protection against infection for those who got vaccinated early, especially seniors.

(Even so-called natural immunity doesn’t guarantee protection. According to a new study, unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection.)

For a great map showing case rates at the county level, and sortable table of statistics including vaccination rates
U.S. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Daily new U.S. cases are beginning to increase again -- they are also the highest they've ever been in all previous waves except the past winter wave and the September-peaking wave we've just come down from. Up 7% in last 14 days (latest 7 day average vs. 7 day average 14 days before).

27 states have increasing cases in last 14 days (latest 7 day average vs. 7 day average 14 days before).