Rittenhouse defense will face its biggest

[Woodswalker]

Problem is closing statements. When the prosecutor asks the jury the question "Why was Kyle Rittenhouse out there with a gun"....that's where the defenses self defense argument turns to poop.

[fescuerescue]

1. If the biggest problem is closing statements

Then the prosecution failed in presenting its case.

closing statements are icing on the cake. Not the meat.

[Walleye]

2. And who wouldn't of thought that was an active spree shooter

He had the assault weapon. The others were the ones who needed self-defense

[Tomconroy]

3. I haven't been following too closely but I think the

Defense is going to ask the jury: Why is the prosecution so desperate that it had to lie about the evidence in it's opening statement?
I would.

[Yarnie]

4. What was the lie?

I didn't see the opening statements. I watched the entire Rittenhouse testimony yesterday, and I know KR lied about a LOT, but I hadn't heard that the prosecutor lied.

[Tomconroy]

5. I just read a CNN article. It said the prosecutor claimed that Rittenhouse chased

The first guy who was shot. The evidence from the state's own investigator was the exact opposite.
At that point I knew there was something really desperate about the state's presentation, as the crap they tried to pull in the cross yesterday showed.

[Yarnie]

6. Didn't know he'd said that

The video clearly shows Rosenbaum chasing KR.

[Tomconroy]

7. I just watched a little yesterday. I guess I've done too many

Rodeos. I found reading the reactions on DU much more interesting for some reason.

[redgreenandblue]

8. I'm not sure that this question will be admissible.

The judge already chewed out the prosecutor for asking why he didn't speak about the incident earlier, stating that the question is a violation of the defendant's right to remain silent.

It stands to reason that the judge will argue that the mere presence of a gun does not amount to an escalation of any sorts, and that asking about the gun is a violation of the second amendment.

The fact that Rittenhouse was not legally allowed to own the gun may or may not be relevant in this context. My understanding is that "possession of a firearm by a minor" is a misdemeanor and not a felony.

[Yarnie]

10. It sounds like there were a lot of guns there.

Rittenhouse, Zaminski, Grosskreutz, and who knows who else?

[JT45242]

9. Did the prosecutor ask about med kit vs assault rifle

If you were there to provide medical help...
What medical procedure can you do with an AR-15?
What firefighting technique requires the use of an assault rifle?

Were you prepared to help people or shoot them?

FYI, intent doesn't matter when you are already committing two other crimes including a weapons violation for the top count.

[Hav]

11. That's why the defense will probably mostly ignore that line of argument

besides maybe pointing out he'd as much of a right to be there as anyone else. Many participants with guns there were who didn't shoot anyone, one of the victims included.
But they can frame the case easily so that the focus will be only a small but crucial aspect of the events. They'll likely ask the jurors what they would have done in a split second decision if they were faced with someone about to smash their faces with a skateboard.

I saw a clip of the prosecutor asking Rittenhouse why he saw the third victim as a threat because he had a gun when the same could be said about the third victim seeing Rittenhouse as a threat. I thought that was pretty good. I have doubts that it will be enough for a conviction but it may be one of the best arguments the prosecution has. That angle is, in my opinion, a bigger headache for the defense than Rittenhouse being there armed in the first place.

[hlthe2b]

12. That a'hole judge preening for the cameras and his reelection campaign will give jury instructions

that so muddle the issues and completely fail to discuss any relevant case law to get the result he clearly wants.

This ceased to be an academic discussion of the complexities of the judicial process a long time ago (for those few about to interject with an inane defense of both judge and defendant). So don't bother. When the defense hires the jury consultant for the OJ trial to sit with (i.e., coach) the defendant's mother please continue to say all is as would be expected. Most here aren't buying it, though we knew from the beginning that justice was not about to prevail in Kenosha, WI.


Jo-Ellan Dimitrius and Wendy Rittenhouse watch Kyle Rittenhouse testify on Nov. 10, 2021. (Image via the Law&Crime Network.)

[JT45242]

13. Does anyone know if the feds have civil rights charges planned for KR when the jury acquits?

[WHITT]

14. There Would Be A Ton Of Pressure For It