Breaking - Judge rejects new Slobfather bid to keep Jan 6 Documents secret

[malaise]

CNN.
Fuck you Slobby! Consequences are coming!
He really is a lunatic
WASHINGTON, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday lost another bid to halt congressional investigators from seeing White House records he wants to keep secret.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan declined to put on hold her ruling from Tuesday allowing a House of Representatives committee to obtain Trump White House records relating to the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"This court will not effectively ignore its own reasoning," she wrote.

Trump's lawyers had asked Chutkan to pause enforcement of her ruling while he appeals it to a higher court. Trump made a similar request to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, which has yet to act on his request.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-rejects-trump-request-block-release-documents-house-riot-probe-2021-11-11/

[JohnSJ]

1. The House committee better accelerate getting those documents quickly before trump

Astarte filing appeals to delay it

[Botany]

2. "This court will not effectively ignore its own reasoning," she wrote.

aka F.U. TFG. The Judge Tanya Chutkan's court had already ruled that the TFG was not now and never was a king
with special legal powers and any claim of executive privilege is moot because he is no longer the Chief Executive.

Today is a Fed. Government holiday so the Jan 6th committee and the National Archives should look
to move the papers tomorrow morning 1st thing before or during any appeals by TFG's lawyers. One
problem is that w, TFG, and McConnell packed the courts with so many right wingers that a spurious
appeal by one of TFG's lawyers might get to one of those judges.

BTW any Fed. Court should shut down one of TFG's appeals because the US Constitution says that the Congress
is a co-equal branch of the Fed. Government to the POTUS and it has a duty to be a check and balance to the
powers of the White House even though TFG is no longer in the White House.

[malaise]

3. She leaves absolutely no room for misinterpretation

I do love Judge Chutkan

[Botany]

5. We have to hold these people and those that sent them to the Capitol accountable.

Or else they will try it again. The coup has never stopped and "they" are still trying to overthrow our democracy
by having the minority control the majority. We have to expose the madness however to the meth crazed
weasels seen below the truth means nothing to them.


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[malaise]

6. Well their Dear Leader was the coup plotter in chief

He is the one who must be locked up.

[SheltieLover]

7. Absofuckingloutely!

[SheltieLover]

9. Did she issue this with prejudice?

If not, as I understand it, the door is still open for more appeals.

[DeeNice]

8. How many more potential appeals could he have on this?

I know the game plan is all about delay but at some point he's got to run out of avenues.

[Ohio Joe]

14. As best I understand it...

Watching various news spots on youtube this morning trying to put together your very question... It went to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia at the same time but they are closed today. Some news spots seemed to think they would grant the stay, some did not... I don't know if they could get it together before the Archives sends the records. Once the records go, they don't go back so court is meaningless. Assuming they get put on hold before being sent, I have no idea how long the Appeals court would take to decide. Pretty much everyone I heard expects the Appeals Court will agree with the lower court but then there is the last appeal to the Supreme Court. Again, pretty much everyone expects even the right wing court to go against the fucking guy. This is all about delay but it remains to be seen how much of one he will get.

[DeeNice]

15. Thanks Ohio Joe!

It's excruciating waiting for progress to be made on any of this. Seeing the rioters not getting the book thrown at them doesn't help.

[The Mouth]

10. "Executive Privilege" is nowhere in the Constitution

Who else thinks we should completely get rid of it?

The harm it (and any other keeping of secrets or redacting of documents past the time they are current) does more harm than good. If it happens on the people's dime, the people should eventually be able to find out about it.

Politicians should have no more rights or privileges than any other employee of say Walmart or McDonalds.

[H2O Man]

11. There can be a

case for it, or against it. For example, if a president is in negotiations with a foreign leader, there can be benefits accrued from not having the media having access to what is being said. But that is limited to at the time ..... once that president has been rendered out of office, either by serving two terms or being defeated in a re-election bid, that no longer holds. I might not be making that clear.

Though you are correct that it is not in the Constitution, it has been determined to exist in the context of constitutional law, meaning where the USSC has made rulings on claims of executive privilege. A good example was Nixon's attempt to not turn over the infamous tapes.

[The Mouth]

16. Yes, correct

But, as with anything else 'protected' all secrecy should be removed ASAP. Classified material, too, should sunset at a specified point in time. It's disgusting that some reports and papers can be kept from us citizens for a generation or two.

I'd be happier if the SCOTUS completely struck it down, though. A President or Senator should have no more expectation of privacy than a hapless droid sitting in a cubicle or on an assembly line at Amazon or Microsoft. Yeah, for the actual duration of negotiations, but after that- if you don't want second guess and scrutiny in perpetuity I've no reason to trust you .

[H2O Man]

12. Recommended.

This is good. Very good.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

13. I, for one, am not holding my breath for the turning over of those documents.

I'm sure our wonderful Supreme Court will happily approve a stay of the order to turn over those documents.