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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRittenhouse didn't just illegally bring a gun to a volatile area, he lied about being an EMT.
Just how much leverage do you give an adolescent to make mistakes that lead to the death of people around him? That is almost rhetorical, given that we had a case a few years ago that successfully pleaded a case of Affluenza. But, Rittenhouse isn't from a rich family. His best defense is that he's white and this involved protesters that conservatives don't like. He might not be charged with murder, but there has to be consequences for what he did, or it's open house on double standards.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)Of course I think his mom should be charged with something too. Reckless endangerment at least
bikernks
(7 posts)Was not taken out of state by his Mom to participate in the riots. He was in Kenosha because thats where his Dad lives and he was visiting him. Dude is a shithead but his Mom had nothing to do with this. I dont know why, for the life of me, this rumor that his Mom drove him there and gave him the gun, wont go away. Part of me thinks its because some people dont want it to go away.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)She obviously loves the boy hes well taken care of
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)People keep saying "out of state" or "crossing state lines" for some reason, and I don't know why. It makes it sound like he came from far away to insert himself into Kenosha. He lived twenty miles away from Kenosha. His father lived there. His job was there. Antioch is literally along the Wisconsin state line.
I think the state line thing started because people thought the gun was in Illinois. It wasn't. Rittenhouse's friend stored the gun in Wisconsin.
I think somewhere very early on in the story, one aspect got mixed in. Rittenhouse's mother drove him to the police station to turn himself in - that is true. And that grew into a story about how his mother drove him to the protest.
His mother driving him to the protest and a gun crossing state lines are two things that were disproved very, very early on, but the narrative ran with it and just won't let it die. It's not a good look, because it says a lot of people haven't read simple, easily researched facts about the case before spreading misinformation.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)And blame it on the kid. Hes showing absolutely no remorse or sympathy for the people he killed and their families. Sociopath is right
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Explain to me how she has nothing to do with this
Yarnie
(90 posts)And, the weapon didn't cross state lines. It had been in the possession of a friend in Wisconsin.
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Please provide a link to the information you are citing, since it runs counter to the widely held narrative.
Chille
(193 posts)having others think he killed POC when everyone is white
Champp
(2,114 posts)Too much propaganda nowadays. Claims require evidence (N.B. Republicans still in an intimate and toxic embrace with THE BIG LIE).
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Mr Rittenhouse said on the stand he was in town because he had seen the destruction caused by the unrest. In particular, he mentioned seeing on social media that a police officer had a brick thrown at his head.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59239853
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Rittenhouse or some internet rando?
mcar
(42,334 posts)to his friend's house in Kenosha. Of course, he had to admit that he doesn't have a drivers license but drove all the time anyway.
So, we have a 17YO who is home-schooled, has no drivers license but drives anyway, gets friends to buy him weapons and pretends to be a cop/EMT/firefighter.
Oh, and he also lied about being in nursing school.
I kind of think his mother either couldn't control him or was shielding him because he's mentally ill.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)so that is murderous.
WHITT
(2,868 posts)but it would be prejudicial to point out Rittenhouse is a LIAR.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)I would be sick to my stomach if I were a juror in that court and discovered that information after the verdict.
SheilaAnn
(9,708 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)Prosecutors should feel free to charge him with impersonating an EMT if thats a crime.
But it isnt going to help them prove murder.
Rittenhouse was up to no good, but if the point is that every teenager who embellishes and lies is a murderer, then we're going to need some pretty big prisons.
I'm not steeped in the twists and turns of this thing, but it tangential erodes his credibility, if that matters.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 11, 2021, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)
to be reckless murderers. It doesn't pair well with the incitement to violence that is going on in the right.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)No problem proving that he thought more of himself than was justified
or even that he had a vigilante mindset. And there should be little trouble convicting him of violating the age rules for carrying a gun.
But you cant overcome reasonable doubt on a murder charge when the video shows him running away until the person chasing him tries to grab his gun. Add a prosecution witness that tells the jury that the chaser literally threatened his life?
Impeaching his credibility just doesnt get you anywhere in the face of the video and the prosecutions own witnesses
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)These stupid fools think guns make them more manly. I doubt any of them learn from this.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)because Rittenhouse has not been charged with murder. He's charged with First-degree reckless homicide, and illegal use of dangerous weapons charges.
He'll be convicted on the illegal gun possession charges--Rittenhouse testified he brought the AR-15 because it was his Right, and the Prosecutor shot that down--he was a child, not an adult. It was illegal to have that weapon, and he knew it. He admitted to asking his pal to make a straw purchase.
His medic/property protector defense is fabricated bullshit. He's a liar, and another home schooled poster boy. He's guilty on all charges, as he inserted himself into a situation then created the very threats to his own life that he feared. Real life turned out not to be just like Call of Duty. The judge is the biggest deterrent to justice in the case.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)You cant say he shouldnt have been there and he shouldnt have a weapon
therefore he cant claim self defense