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open the door in some way can the prosecution get the proud boy pose in ?
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)The court denied it as not relevant to something that happened two weeks earlier
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Rittenhouse said the only reason he was there was to provide first aid, it's laughable. And the judge has stopped the prosecution from even questioning that when we all know he was there to play war.
Chille
(193 posts)he was their to protect a business . It might be where he worked because the owner asked him directly to help out
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I thought he wasn't supposed to be there.
Chille
(193 posts)he mentioned a guy's name and this guy owned the property that he was protecting. He did say the guy, I don't remember the name, called him and asked him to come by and help. I thought it must be a place that he worked at. Why else would he get this call?
xmas74
(29,674 posts)They never asked for assistance from him or anyone else. They stated they'd already been looted and that there was nothing left to protect.
So he lied on the stand.
Chille
(193 posts)him!
xmas74
(29,674 posts)I'm originally from Kenosha. People from back home have all stated he was never invited and that the Kenosha Guard he joined on Facebook was created by a former city councilman who was forced to resign because he moved out if his district but never declared that he moved.
Zeitghost
(3,862 posts)There is video, medical evidence and witness testimony indicating the first man shot threatened to kill him and then chased him down and tried to grab his rifle.
There is video of the second man shot attempting to bash him with a skateboard.
There is testimony by and video evidence of the third man shot admitting that KR did not shoot him until he feigned surrender and then drew and pointed a gun at him.
That is game, set, match for the defense under WI self defense law.
The gun being potentially purchased and/or carried illegally, his reasons for going there, his smugness afterwards, how far he traveled to be there (not far) or whether the gun crossed state lines (it didn't), none of that matters when the three men shot all gave him legal reasons to defend himself. Throw in a prosecution that blatantly lied in their opening statement and has been admonished for violating the accused's 5th amendment rights and you have zero chance of conviction here.
I know many don't want to hear that, but those are the facts presented in court.
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)I agree with your assessment of what has gone down in this.
Chille
(193 posts)I don't feel so alone
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Issue in the trial and the prosecutor knows this. He's playing to an audience not in the courtroom.
that was why he yelled at the prosecutor
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Which may still result in a mistrial. It's a grave breach of Rittenhouse's, and everyone else's, constitutional rights. He was implying guilt for deciding to consult a lawyer and avoiding talking to the police / FBI.
The judge later took the prosecutor to task for bringing up the visit to the bar and subsequent selfies after being ordered not to do so, and without clearing it with the judge beforehand.
Chille
(193 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)If convicted. That's a get out of jail card right there.
many times an appeal material isn't obvious or strong. But that sure is.
budkin
(6,703 posts)And the judge denied it anyway. The prosecution is absolutely screwed.