so, rittenhouse was there to give first aid.

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he brought no first aid equipment and he brought a gun.
but, fair point, you can't administer first aid for a gun shot wound if there aren't any guns involved, amirite?



seems to me he was aware of at least 3 situations where first aid was needed.
seems to me he didn't make any particular attempt to administer first aid at any point.


so...

not very good at this first aid thing, is he?

[H2O Man]

1. Recommended.

Kyle needs to be convicted. He is guily as sin. Yet the judge is doing his utmost to defend him.

[exboyfil]

2. Not only a gun but a rifle

That means that it would have been difficult to administer any sort of aid with the weapon slung over his shoulder, and he very well couldn't put it down and have it unsecured.

[Hoyt]

3. He was there -- like most gun-humpers -- in the hopes of being a Hero. He did have a First Aid Kit,

but he caused the bleeding.

[Yarnie]

4. He said he'd brought First Aid supplies,

so I checked out pix, and I see two straps across his back. The gun would have been on his right side, and the medical pack (if it exists) would/could have been on his left. Don't know. Is there any evidence, other than his testimony?

[ColinC]

19. In the videos of him before the shooting he was asking around if anybody needed first aid

and it looked like he had a bag on him. Of course, then he tried to murder 3 people so I think that defeats to the point.

[imaginary girl]

5. But he had a chance ...

To administer aid to Rosenbaum and chose to flee instead, which resulted in another death and a horrible injury. I don't understand how that choice allows the self defense plea for the second two shootings. He wasn't being threatened after the first shooting until after he fled from the scene (gun still in hand).

[Initech]

6. Yeah why would you need an AR-15 and body armor to give first aid?

Seriously... WTF?

[Sympthsical]

7. He had a first aid kit

This has come out in the trial.

[Kingofalldems]

8. Did he bring cleaning materials?

I notice he brought an automatic weapon though. Oddly, EMTs don't carry weapons to my knowledge.

[Sympthsical]

10. The third person he shot was a medic carrying a gun.

Illegally carrying that weapon, to boot.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Not my question.

He said he was there to help clean up. Where were his cleaning materials?

He brought a weapon to help clean up?

[Sympthsical]

13. It's irrelevant

Which I imagine you know. He was cleaning up graffiti earlier in the day. There was even some debate about the gloves he had been using for it. I can't speak to the details about the cleaning, because I didn't hear too much about that part.

You're arguing a narrative. I'm only interested in the law and facts regarding what he's actually on trial for.

[Yarnie]

20. There are pictures

of him and a bunch of others cleaning graffiti off a school, or something.

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14. Some police officers have emt training so that can happen

But in my own experience as an emt once upon a time, I was often in positions/situations where I wouldn't have been able to both administer aid and also properly secure weaponry.

I mean I'm carrying a gurney and someone else reaches for my gun I'm supposed to notice this and immediately drop the patient? Down the stairs maybe?

Im grateful I worked in an town where police were able to secure the scene and protect us while we worked.

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9. At least he says so. Makes it all the more damning though.

Given that he never used it.

[Sympthsical]

12. On the shooting victims? No. He testified he helped others.

He testified someone had slashed their finger (I believe), and he gave them gauze and bandage tape. And there was a girl who had sprained her ankle. That's his testimony.

As far as the victims, I don't see anyone stopping to render first aid when they're being chased and people are screaming at them.

At some point, common sense has to reign in this.

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15. Common sense says he created the circumstances for his perceived need for lethal self-defense

[Sympthsical]

16. This started with Rosenbaum

I hope you're watching the trial right now, because all this video and testimony is showing how Rosenbaum behaved in the run up to his chasing Rittenhouse.

[unblock]

17. So that justifies the second and third victims?

I'm not as close to the details as some here, but I've seen nothing to suggest that those victims were at fault.

My impression is that self-defense is debatable but plausible in the first case. After that, he was a scared trigger-happy person running around with a rifle in a crowded area. He was the one putting others in life or death frightening situations.

[Sympthsical]

18. It's a legal question

If Rosenbaum is self-defense, then the other two may fall under it. The second two victims are no longer shot "in the commission of a crime." So the self-defense standard remains in play.

Again, if Rosenbaum is self-defense.

Your characterization is biased and wrong. He's not "running around." He's running away. He's retreating towards the police. He is being chased by a crowd shouting at him and making threats. This is on video.

[Yarnie]

21. Victim #2

was shot while clobbering him with a skateboard. Victim #3, Grosskreutz, admitted that KR didn't shoot him until Grosskreutz' gun was pointed at him.

The kid should NEVER have been there. He was a hero wannabe, a cop groupie, and a dumb kid. But, facts are facts.

[Kingofalldems]

22. No he's a great kid!!!111!!!

https://www.trendsmap.com/ipx/

?w=580

[Torchlight]

23. A venn diagram of Rittenhouse's fan base and Zimmerman's

would be almost identical to tenths of percentage, consisting of the same sea-lioning. Every day that passes, that impression becomes more and more a firm reality in my opinion.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

24. Stop or I'll use this AR-15 to give you life-ending first aid

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