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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:15 PM Nov 2021

Let's have ideas from DUers on how to explain the Infrastructure package

Last edited Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:51 PM - Edit history (1)

I'd have ads with dirty tap water, cars falling into potholes, bridges collapsing, internet connections failing with screaming young people, then I'd show people working at repairing them and show the salaries. There are many other details in the package.

Your ideas.

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Let's have ideas from DUers on how to explain the Infrastructure package (Original Post) malaise Nov 2021 OP
light rail thru the cities RayTy Nov 2021 #1
Target Audience, Republicans? TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #29
we need to calculate the cost of doing nothing. then the cost of doing something. mopinko Nov 2021 #2
First, let's stop... 2naSalit Nov 2021 #3
I think you're right malaise Nov 2021 #8
Thanks. 2naSalit Nov 2021 #11
People don't like to be "Explained" to, either, especially rurally. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #22
I hear you malaise Nov 2021 #28
It passed, they should have sold it better doc03 Nov 2021 #4
Good jobs are always popular. hunter Nov 2021 #5
So true malaise Nov 2021 #19
Live streams of newborn great grand children! hunter Nov 2021 #24
Footage of a car negotiating a pot-holed road gratuitous Nov 2021 #6
Love that malaise Nov 2021 #9
That collapsed bridge with cars in the water, labelled Trump's infrastructure package. keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #7
That could be one ad malaise Nov 2021 #10
For one, the Flint water crisis taxi Nov 2021 #12
Snyder and the take over of local representation should be front and center malaise Nov 2021 #15
We would want voters to know that taxi Nov 2021 #23
Some well known state Democrats hamsterjill Nov 2021 #13
Great ideas malaise Nov 2021 #16
It could look like this: BeckyDem Nov 2021 #14
That is lovely malaise Nov 2021 #17
Yes. Visuals can help sell a new reality, one we want and are working towards. BeckyDem Nov 2021 #27
The Lincoln Project had a good ad yesterday NewJeffCT Nov 2021 #18
Maybe they should include this song malaise Nov 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #21
High speed internet won't matter much around here Bayard Nov 2021 #25
Good point - promotion and ads have to be location specific malaise Nov 2021 #26

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
2. we need to calculate the cost of doing nothing. then the cost of doing something.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:26 PM
Nov 2021

it's about investing. not just maintaining, but investing and improving.
mentioned this in another thread- lead pipes. the costs of lead poisoning in medical care, special ed, and too often, prison, should be toted up, and put out there in relation to the costs of the new pipes.

do a cost/benefit on all these things- lifetime earnings increases from early childhood programs. programs to support disabled workers v just warehousing them, or writing checks.
how much do we invest in our citizens? and what do we get for it?
how much was the gi bill? what kind of dividends did that pay?
we need to use that word over and over- investments.

then write a song about it, i guess. cuz people are math morons.
srsly. make some great charts. but make the expected gains concrete.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
3. First, let's stop...
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:33 PM
Nov 2021

Referring to this as "selling" the idea to voters. There has to be a better term that isn't so pejorative.

Explaining comes to mind.

All they need to know is how this helps them. It's not asking them to fork over cash on hand.

Sorry, that term just rubs me the wrong way whenever I hear it.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
11. Thanks.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:58 PM
Nov 2021

The vast majority of news outlets use that term and it pisses me off. They are making Biden out to be a salesman and that is not the case, he's the president and he has a duty to make sure people understand the policy not take their money, that's already been collected in taxes.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
22. People don't like to be "Explained" to, either, especially rurally.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:42 PM
Nov 2021

Too often "Explained" is loaded as "coastal elites talking down to people they think don't know any better". When's the last time you heard someone "'Splain" in a positive manner?

I'd suggest "Showing" or "Showcasing" if we're looking for a relatively non-pejorative term. Relatively neutral and makes it seem like the Infrastructure is a "Big Damn Deal" to even a casual listener who doesn't know what's in it.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
4. It passed, they should have sold it better
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:34 PM
Nov 2021

before that. The only thing will sell it now is if we
start seeing work being done.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
5. Good jobs are always popular.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:35 PM
Nov 2021

Installing inexpensive "last mile" 5G rural internet services would be a good one.

It worked for rural electrification and telephone services.

Most of my otherwise "conservative" great grandparents bought into that.




malaise

(269,054 posts)
19. So true
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:27 PM
Nov 2021

Think we should have ads with rural grandma sending photos vis her new speedy internet service

hunter

(38,317 posts)
24. Live streams of newborn great grand children!
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:56 PM
Nov 2021

Possibly preferable to two of my great grandmothers who took the train to make sure my mom was doing it right.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Footage of a car negotiating a pot-holed road
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:37 PM
Nov 2021

Driver and passengers bouncing around inside. Then the road is closed for a week or two. Ala-kazam, the same car on the same road traveling safely and smoothly. As a bonus, the men and women who worked to make the road better have good-paying jobs that make them financially stable.

I know; a hard sell.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
7. That collapsed bridge with cars in the water, labelled Trump's infrastructure package.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 04:48 PM
Nov 2021

That collapsed bridge with cars in the water, labelled Trump's infrastructure package.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
12. For one, the Flint water crisis
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:11 PM
Nov 2021

After all this time how can we not look back and wonder, did the process of collecting data on water needs in times of stress show the difference in party priorities? Will the weather events of tomorrow leave you like Flint?

Flint Michigan Water Crisis History Timeline

March 2017
A lawsuit filed by the ACLU and NRDC results in Flint coming up with a plan to replace the city’s 1,000s of lead water pipes. Funding comes from the state of Michigan. The outcome also results in extended funding for complete tap water testing, a faucet filter installation, and a training program. Free bottled water will continue to be delivered through the summer months. Health programs are established for those residents affected by Flint’s tainted water.


So they're finally coming up with a plan?

https://thumbwind.com/2020/12/30/flint-water-crisis-timeline-history/

malaise

(269,054 posts)
15. Snyder and the take over of local representation should be front and center
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:21 PM
Nov 2021

Yes the Flint water crisis ahould be a big part of this

taxi

(1,896 posts)
23. We would want voters to know that
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:43 PM
Nov 2021

the opponent would neglect their water over his own interests.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
13. Some well known state Democrats
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:19 PM
Nov 2021

Ads that feature state and/or local Democratic officials who are recognizable with video showing what the bill will do for a specific area. Use video technology to show roads now versus what they will look like after a project is completed.

But have the credit go to Democrats!!! RwcogniAvle faces saying Democrats did this.

In my own state of Texas, I don’t want Ted Cruz and John Cornyn taking credit.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
14. It could look like this:
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:19 PM
Nov 2021


5 Ways Investing in Infrastructure Can Improve an Increasingly Congested World

To meet the needs of a ballooning global population, the world needs to start investing in infrastructure. Here are five stories that show the way

https://redshift.autodesk.com/investing-in-infrastructure/






( A nice improvement. )

malaise

(269,054 posts)
17. That is lovely
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:23 PM
Nov 2021

I don't think President Biden can just stand up and explain to people without visuals and ads

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. The Lincoln Project had a good ad yesterday
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 05:26 PM
Nov 2021

I'm not a big supporter of theirs, but they do have some great ads. Something like the ad below is a great starting point.



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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #18)

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
25. High speed internet won't matter much around here
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 06:03 PM
Nov 2021

Small town and rural Kentucky. I'm sure it would be the same in many areas.

Jobs are the big issue here. What there is, don't pay much. I would promote that aspect and the available salaries/benefits.

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