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Whoops Here it is. Media Normalizes White Power. (Original Post) Tommymac Nov 2021 OP
This is America. If you look at the majority of murders of black men by cops tulipsandroses Nov 2021 #1
It is systemic, ingrained in our country. It has to change, but it is taught and incorporated early. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #2
I'd like to know where diversity is celebrated by the national media. live love laugh Nov 2021 #15
MSM not so much, although I think MSNBC does a good job with a variety of hosts. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #18
THIS malaise Nov 2021 #20
I stopped my NYT subscription the day after Biden's inauguration. texasfiddler Nov 2021 #3
Can you tell me how you did that? ShazzieB Nov 2021 #4
I must say it was difficult to navigate. I had to google it and finally found a good description texasfiddler Nov 2021 #6
Thanks for the reply. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #11
You can very often find instructions for that sort of thing on Youtube wryter2000 Nov 2021 #35
Try logging into your account. You should see a page with your name and information. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #37
Thanks. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #39
I didn't know that. They fixated on his watch? Like O's tan suit and Dijon preference? Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #19
Yes. They didn't waste any time doing it. Sixteen days after the coup attempt. texasfiddler Nov 2021 #21
So petty and non-newsworthy. Motivation by journalist and how/why approved by editor? Weird. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #42
Blast the writer by name. John Eligon LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #5
They deceptively edited that rictofen Nov 2021 #7
Are you trying to insert truth or what??:) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2021 #8
Truth!? For shame! nt reACTIONary Nov 2021 #10
Thank you! nt reACTIONary Nov 2021 #9
Guess people are unfamiliar with "the nut paragraph" wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #16
The article literally wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #17
The media won't even say he KILLED two people ... "fatally shot" my ass. nt live love laugh Nov 2021 #12
Lorelei Lee in Anita Loos' "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" describes shooting a man as "he became shot." betsuni Nov 2021 #13
Sounds about white. 😑 live love laugh Nov 2021 #14
If you "fatally shoot" someone, it's kinda understood that you killed them. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #43
Not a peculiar complaint if you pay attention to the live love laugh Nov 2021 #49
That's not an apple to apple Chille Nov 2021 #22
Really? No difference between the "lefty" protesters and the "police loving" shooter? yardwork Nov 2021 #23
wait, this is all Chille Nov 2021 #24
That is absolutely what this is about. yardwork Nov 2021 #25
I wasn't looking at it from Chille Nov 2021 #26
Why do you think Kyle Rittenhouse was there? yardwork Nov 2021 #27
of course I understood Chille Nov 2021 #29
Sorry, no sale. yardwork Nov 2021 #30
who mentioned George Floyd? Chille Nov 2021 #31
You have no idea why the protesters were there, do you? yardwork Nov 2021 #32
That is what they were protesting malaise Nov 2021 #47
That is what they were protesting malaise Nov 2021 #48
"They were all white". Skin is not necessarily a uniform. Marcuse Nov 2021 #33
...K&R... spanone Nov 2021 #28
Sorry, don't see the outrage here. Nothing in that sentence is editorial. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #34
Murdered Black children don't get ".. even-handed.." from the media in the US uponit7771 Nov 2021 #52
Wish I could rec 1M times happy feet Nov 2021 #36
Words MATTER MagickMuffin Nov 2021 #38
THIS 👆🏽Yes! live love laugh Nov 2021 #50
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #40
The less media the better pwb Nov 2021 #41
Michael Brown wasn't murdered, though. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #44
BUTBUTBUT we can't APPEAR libral! still looking at fux gnewz. pansypoo53219 Nov 2021 #45
If Rittenhouse had killed a Kenosha cop, we'd be hearing a whole different trial now FakeNoose Nov 2021 #46
K&R uponit7771 Nov 2021 #51

tulipsandroses

(5,128 posts)
1. This is America. If you look at the majority of murders of black men by cops
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:43 PM
Nov 2021

You will find the same theme. The victim is victimized again by media portrayal of a thug. A 15 yr old kid that went to the store to buy skittles, never made it home. Killed by another vigilante. Somehow his hoodie was reason enough for many for him to be murdered.
When they couldn’t find anything on a 12 yr old child- Tamir Rice, they talked about his father’s record. It is a sickness that I don’t know if will be ever cured.

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
2. It is systemic, ingrained in our country. It has to change, but it is taught and incorporated early.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:04 PM
Nov 2021

In some parts of our country. Other parts hail and celebrate diversity. Depends where you live. Two Americas.

live love laugh

(13,142 posts)
15. I'd like to know where diversity is celebrated by the national media.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:09 AM
Nov 2021

They pretty much blast out the same headlines with the same parsed or misleading language.

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
18. MSM not so much, although I think MSNBC does a good job with a variety of hosts.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:58 AM
Nov 2021

I was more referring to what I call "bastions of blue", communities whose local media support diversity. Everything is local after all. Im an east coaster and am proud to live in a community that supports immigrants and all peoples. Used to live in mid-west and don't regret leaving. Wanted to live in FL at one point. No way I would ever consider anymore.

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
3. I stopped my NYT subscription the day after Biden's inauguration.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:06 PM
Nov 2021

The insurrection and attempted coup on January 6th was a wake up call for me. The NYT was more interested in Biden wearing a rolex during the inaugural ceremony. Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, Etc. are killing democracy, but the NYT is enabling the destruction.

ShazzieB

(16,541 posts)
4. Can you tell me how you did that?
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:28 PM
Nov 2021

I want to cancel my digital NYT subscription, but I can't figure out how to do it. The only instructions I can find online involve having to either either chat with one of their reps online or talk to them on the phone, presumably so they can try to talk me out of it. I very, very much do NOT want to do that if I can avoid it. Any advice?

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
6. I must say it was difficult to navigate. I had to google it and finally found a good description
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:36 PM
Nov 2021

on how to do it. They make it easy to join, but difficult to drop. I can't remember, but it wasn't intuitive. I was so pissed, I found a way. Sorry. I have erased this from my memory and don't remember the exact steps I took. I was glad to let them know why, but I don't think it matters.

Lonestarblue

(10,095 posts)
37. Try logging into your account. You should see a page with your name and information.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:40 PM
Nov 2021

Click the Help link on the right. There’s an option to cancel your subscription under “Manage your account.” The only options then are to call and talk with a person or use the chat feature. At least with chat, you’re generally communicating with a robot. Hope this works. I could not find any other option to cancel directly on their site.

The only other information I’ve seen applies to digital subscriptions accessed through an app downloaded from the Apple store. I haven’t tried this, but you might be able to cancel through the app’s manage subscription link.

ShazzieB

(16,541 posts)
39. Thanks.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:05 PM
Nov 2021

I'll try the chat. If it's really a robot, that sounds less obnoxious than talking to a actual person!

rictofen

(236 posts)
7. They deceptively edited that
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 PM
Nov 2021

The text below the headline on the left is actually the 5th paragraph. Unsurprisingly, the article is quite different in context.

Here's the actual 1st paragraph:

"FERGUSON, Mo. — It was 1 a.m. and Michael Brown Jr. called his father, his voice trembling. He had seen something overpowering. In the thick gray clouds that lingered from a passing storm this past June, he made out an angel. And he saw Satan chasing the angel and the angel running into the face of God. Mr. Brown was a prankster, so his father and stepmother chuckled at first."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us/michael-brown-spent-last-weeks-grappling-with-lifes-mysteries.html

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
16. Guess people are unfamiliar with "the nut paragraph"
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:19 AM
Nov 2021

The initial paragraphs are meant to be the lead up to the nut paragraph, which is the "so what?" of the article.

Its a common practice in journalism, so this comparison stands

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
17. The article literally
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:21 AM
Nov 2021

says Michael Brown saw an angel but he himself is no angel.

Those looking for a gotcha is seriously reaching.

betsuni

(25,663 posts)
13. Lorelei Lee in Anita Loos' "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" describes shooting a man as "he became shot."
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 12:54 AM
Nov 2021

I think they should use that. Three people became shot.

Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
43. If you "fatally shoot" someone, it's kinda understood that you killed them.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:31 PM
Nov 2021

That's what "fatally" means. It really doesn't need to be spelled out, as it means "killed them by shooting them."

I'm sorry, but that's a very peculiar complaint against the media.

 

Chille

(193 posts)
22. That's not an apple to apple
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:32 AM
Nov 2021

comparison.
One group is killed by the "law" The killers where white and the victims were black

Then we have this "riot". Clearly no one was following the law. They were all white. It was white on white so which group has the white power? Is it with the white dead guys or the white shooter? you decide but I see no comparison

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
23. Really? No difference between the "lefty" protesters and the "police loving" shooter?
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:40 AM
Nov 2021

Look again. There's a big difference. It's not just white vs white. It's "race traitor" whites protesting against the police who "apprehended" George Floyd (who was "no angel&quot vs the "good boy" who loved cops and just wanted to help people by doing his civic duty of illegally taking an assault rifle to another state and shooting three people.

See the difference in the way the two sides are framed?

 

Chille

(193 posts)
24. wait, this is all
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:50 AM
Nov 2021

about the politics of the "police loving" shooter and the "lefty" protesters? LOL

I was not looking at it that way and that's why I can't relate to some of these posts. Got it now and thank you

 

Chille

(193 posts)
29. of course I understood
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:18 AM
Nov 2021

they were all at a protest. No one should have been there and everyone there was looking for trouble or enticing some sort of mischief at that time of night. I thought that part was obvious .

The outstanding question still remains, was Rittenhouse defending himself or is he a murderer? I was concentrating on everyone's action during the night. Not who they voted for or their political beliefs.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
30. Sorry, no sale.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:20 AM
Nov 2021

I disagree that protesters of the murder of George Floyd were "looking for mischief."

I think you have a political belief about this and so do I.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
34. Sorry, don't see the outrage here. Nothing in that sentence is editorial.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:48 PM
Nov 2021

The Rittenhouse article is in depth and even-handed, which is their ideal style. They don't say he's justified, they don't say he's not - they give context and nuance.

Eligon's article is 7 years old - I don't even know if he's employed there any more. "Qasim Rashid, Esq." shouldn't have to reach that far back to prove his point.

It's like bringing up Judith Miller's Iraq War credulity over and over to prove the NYT favors the GQP now.

MagickMuffin

(15,960 posts)
38. Words MATTER
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:04 PM
Nov 2021


I was just reading about how several governments are sending back looted art and items back to Africa.

These governments were white governments, and they were LOOTING other countries treasures.


In America the media will call out Blacks for looting and yet they will never ever use that term for the illegal activities of the white governments who steal and loot from others.


Another thing I noticed is when the G7/8 summits were happening at various locations around the world and protesters would show up and some would cause destruction to buildings and such. The Corporate News were up front and saying they couldn't air these protests as it would encourage bad behavior,

FAST FORWARD TO TODAY AND WE HAVE PROUD BOYS AND OATH KEEPERS, AND 3%ers and the Corporate News Media is constantly showing them with their guns and letting others know who to contact for future training.




Jedi Guy

(3,260 posts)
44. Michael Brown wasn't murdered, though.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:33 PM
Nov 2021

If Mr. Rashid is indeed a lawyer, one would think he'd grasp that point, but evidently not.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
46. If Rittenhouse had killed a Kenosha cop, we'd be hearing a whole different trial now
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:31 PM
Nov 2021

The issue at hand is that cops are the ones who beat the rap, every stinking time.

Anyone who kills a cop, race doesn't matter - they will be convicted. In the press and in court.

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