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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,438 posts)
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:58 AM Nov 2021

New England once hunted and killed humans for money.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/15/new-england-once-hunted-and-humans-for-money-were-descendents-of-the-survivors

For more than 10,000 years, the Wabanaki peoples have been living in a region called the Dawnland. Captain John Smith rebranded the area “New England” in a map he made in 1614. He and the other colonial settlers renamed rivers and villages to claim the land for themselves and erase Native people from their homelands. But that wasn’t enough. Eventually colonial officials introduced a grisly incentive to hasten that erasure: bounties for dead Native Americans.

Yes, the settlers whom many Americans mythologize at Thanksgiving as peace-loving pilgrims were, just a generation later, issuing official government orders putting a price on the scalps of Indigenous children, women and men.

The reward: about $12,000 in today’s dollars for the scalp of a man, half that for a woman, and a bit less for a child. It was nearly as much as a soldier would earn in two years. Sometimes bounty hunters were granted the land of the people they scalped – thousands of acres, which scalpers used to found towns that they named after themselves, like Westbrook, Maine; Shirley, Massachusetts; and Spencer, Massachusetts, to name just a few.

According to our research, there were at least 69 government-issued scalp edicts across the Dawnland from 1675 to 1760, and at least 50 scalp edicts issued elsewhere in the United States until 1885. The proclamations targeted specific tribes by name – and occasionally marked specific tribes safe because they were “allies” of the authorities. But neither scalpers nor authorities had much way of knowing the tribal affiliations of the people whose scalps they took, so for centuries bounties were a license to kill all Indigenous people.
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New England once hunted and killed humans for money. (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 OP
Ugh! Humans can be very, very ugly, indeed. MineralMan Nov 2021 #1
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2021 #2
Repeated ad nauseam across two continents. Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #3
But don't you dare tell this to the children of their descendants malaise Nov 2021 #4
The parents prefer the privileges of pigmentation. Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #6
I thought everyone knew this. eShirl Nov 2021 #5
Everyone? ornotna Nov 2021 #8
Lol, I took a neighbor kid in my car to get a burger one day a few years ago. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #15
George Washington was an Indian WhiteTara Nov 2021 #7
Yep, I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #20
Um...they weren't "Americans" yet. zanana1 Nov 2021 #9
Well, we "Americans" aren't blameless. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #16
History can be very ugly. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #10
Hey! RobinA Nov 2021 #12
True indeed. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #13
Not sure yet what 21st Century standards will be. It is just starting out Klaralven Nov 2021 #18
Lol, you've sure got a point there.. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #19
Yes indeed, "American Settlers" were the cause of genocide MagickMuffin Nov 2021 #11
The gentiles of Europe will always have the most murders on their name. Dawson Leery Nov 2021 #14
Again, do a wee bit of research into the Aztecs and Mayans. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #17

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
3. Repeated ad nauseam across two continents.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 11:10 AM
Nov 2021

To my horror and shame.

Imagine if the Europeans had followed the Golden Rule — treated Others as they, themselves, would want to be treated? You know, the relatively new idea that all are equal under law?

The world today might not be the war-ravaged, polluted greedhead sewer it is. And people would be valued as “Marvels” instead of chattel.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
6. The parents prefer the privileges of pigmentation.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 12:30 PM
Nov 2021

To shorten their time in Hell, I recommend the, er, unenlightened explore a new horizon:

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
15. Lol, I took a neighbor kid in my car to get a burger one day a few years ago.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:08 PM
Nov 2021

Middle school age. Telling me about his field trip to some place I’d never heard of. Finally figured out he was talking about the capital of our state, NC. He not only didn’t know how to say the word, which is really not difficult, he thought it was in Georgia.

I was so taken aback, it took me quite awhile to try and disentangle that in his brain. But “capital” was not something I was really able to get across. At least he could pronounce “Raleigh” by the time I took him home.

Damn, that was so sad though.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
16. Well, we "Americans" aren't blameless.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:10 PM
Nov 2021

Wounded Knee, My Lai….just two examples of way too many.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. History can be very ugly.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 12:42 PM
Nov 2021

And very bloody.

If this bothers you, don’t read about the Aztecs and Mayans, whatever you do.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
13. True indeed.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:02 PM
Nov 2021

But we’re supposed to judge all past peoples by 21st century standards, doncha know?

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
18. Not sure yet what 21st Century standards will be. It is just starting out
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:24 PM
Nov 2021

20th Century Standards were a bit lacking. WW I&II, Holocaust, Russian revolution, Ukrainian famine, Japanese conquest of China, Cambodia, Uganda, etc., etc....

MagickMuffin

(15,953 posts)
11. Yes indeed, "American Settlers" were the cause of genocide
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 12:53 PM
Nov 2021


to those who were not white. They treated others not white like non-human beings. When in fact they were the inhuman. And please shhhhhh now, no one teach that the whites are slaughtering hate mongering warlords. We can't have that, now can we.





 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
17. Again, do a wee bit of research into the Aztecs and Mayans.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 02:16 PM
Nov 2021

And good old Pol Pot was trying to go for the record.

Look up the massacres at Hyderabad. So many of these tragedies and abominations in history. So very sad.

They cross all ethnic lines.

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