"I'm Glad He Shot Him"

[WHITT]

During closing arguments, Rittenhouse defense attorney Mark Richards told the jury, "I'm Glad He Shot Him", referring to Joseph Rosenbaum.

Despicable asshole.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvnzgv/rittenhouse-trial-defense-blasts-victims

[PortTack]

1. My gawd..what has this country come to?!

[question everything]

2. Can he be disbarred?

[Ocelot II]

7. Not for that. It's a shitty argument but it's not a violation of professional rules.

[Skittles]

3. he knows that will "score" with the gun humpers

yup

[Kaleva]

18. And those who hate child molesters

[Skittles]

23. are you fucking kidding me

so you are saying that little fascist punk was TARGETING them? GUILTY!!!!!

[Kaleva]

26. Jury may not have much sympathy for Rosenbaum if they are aware of his history.

"Newly released Joseph Rosenbaum sex offender documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old."

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/

Even here at DU, child molesters get little to no sympathy.

[Skittles]

28. he's a fascist little white supremacist punk

he MURDERED two people

DONE HERE, for good

[Kaleva]

35. Generally, people don't care if a convicted child molester gets murdered.

[Devil Child]

37. +1 Kaleva n/t

[Celerity]

45. Reactionary, ex post facto revisionist-driven advocacy/rationalisation for vigilantism.

Your posturing is antithetical to the very foundation of the rule of law.

[Kaleva]

49. This isn't about vigilantism. It's about people despising serial child rapists.

And not caring if one gets killed even if the killer knew nothing about the victims history.

[Celerity]

50. No. It is an ex post facto attempt at mitigation and rationalisation. It doesn't matter what

people think about the victim's past in terms of a deserved (or at least excusable) death. Those feelings (either way) do not wash away the stain and stench of vigilantism.

[Kaleva]

53. I've been a member of DU long enough to know that child rapists are hated and despised here.

[Celerity]

57. More spin and deflection, you are using hatred of the the victim's previous acts (that were unknown

at the time to the shooter) as an ex post facto justification for vigilantism.

[BlackSkimmer]

64. It's true though, about DU.

I’ve seen threads calling for violence against all kinds of people here. Death to anti-vaxxers, transphobes, child molesters, Karen’s! I’ve seen calls for prison rape here, fairly recently.

Kaleva’s point is sadly valid.

[Celerity]

66. It may well be valid about DU, but that has nothing to do with my positings.

It is tangential to my core arguments. Getting off a linear rhetorical track and into the weeds over whether DU says this or DU says that is neither here nor there, and does not in any way, shape, or form negate the validity of my original claims.

[BlackSkimmer]

69. And I never said it did.

I was only speaking to Kaleva’s point.

[Kaleva]

74. I believe it to be true that most here won't care if a convicted child rapist gets murdered

They may call it Karma.

[Dorian Gray]

73. Kaleva didn't make a judgment

about whether people not caring that a pedophile was killed was right or wrong. They just stated that people don't care. Which is a mitigating circumstance that may affect how the jurors vote here.

There are always extenuating circumstances that people could look to to justify ruling a way that they would like.

[Kaleva]

75. Thank you.

[Celerity]

76. again, not germane to my positings

[Dorian Gray]

78. Again?

That was my first post in this thread.

Oh well.

[Celerity]

79. not you per se, but the general train of thought that is being repeated back to me

[Dorian Gray]

80. This was your positing:

"45. Reactionary, ex post facto revisionist-driven advocacy/rationalisation for vigilantism.

Your posturing is antithetical to the very foundation of the rule of law."

The poster that you responded to didn't advocate vigilantism.

They explained why a jury may not have sympathy for the victim.

Which is a BIG COMMON THING in jury trials and why the lawyers try to pick jurists that they think will be sympathetic to them.

[Celerity]

82. look at their own claims, they said they were talking about DU

[Dorian Gray]

85. But Kaleva

posted about the Jury not having sympathy a few posts above that, and I read the whole thread. There are people absolutely justifying and celebrating the murder. Kaleva did not seem to be that person in reading the entirety of the thread.

I avoided the other people who were celebrating bc that's gross. Murder and killing is no game.

I get why you're angry. This all feels like escalating tribalism and this case sucks. Rittenhouse definitely went there to escalate with weapons. And whether his shooting and killing his victim was murder or manslaughter should have NOTHING to do with that man's past history.

I do think that his being a pedophile can change the color of the jury's view of his killing.

I won't make any more arguments defending Kaleva bc they are capable of writing what they mean. I read their posts differently than you did. That's it.


Highly supercharged moment in time. When the verdict is read, people will be angry (whether he's guilty or innocent). I would love to see cooler heads prevail, but I don't see that happening in today's political climate.

[Devil Child]

55. I support you defining it however you feel

Matters little to me and doesn't change the reality that Rosenbaum will never rape another child now that he is deceased.

[Celerity]

59. not germane to what I posited nt

[EndlessWire]

34. How would that get in?

That pro-defendant judge? "Blame the victim" is happening. The dead guy was not someone any of us would want to associate with, but I take a dim view of some gun-toting punk shooting him just to experience what it's like to shoot someone. There was/is not one shred of remorse shown by this defendant. He shouldn't get excused just because he accidentally chose a target who did those things. What about the other guys he shot?

Every time I think of this jerk, I wonder why his mother helped him to do this awful deed.

[Kaleva]

38. I don't know if the jury knows Rosenbaum's history.

But I think you'd agree with me that child molesters are despised by society. One can see that here at DU. Knowledge of Rosenbuam's past by members of the jury may sway them to vote to convict Rittenhouse of a lesser charge or possibly even outright acquit Rittenhouse of killing Rosenbaum all together.

Your comment:

"What about the other guys he shot?"

I don't know.

[Luciferous]

44. Yeah, it's not like Rittenhouse knew the guy was a scumbag when he killed him.

[BlackSkimmer]

51. His mother didn't help him.

She didn’t buy the weapon, and she didn’t drive him to the scene.

No idea why people cling to this canard.

[xmas74]

54. She didn't buy it

She did give him the money from her stimulus check and stated somewhere that she knew what he was spending it on.

She's trash, especially considering they were struggling financially with bills and she gave him money for a weapon.

[tenderfoot]

65. Was his status as a sex offender known at the time of the shooting?

eom

[MustLoveBeagles]

81. No

[cadoman]

27. no one knew Rosenbaum was a sex offender till after the event

I think the jury is still unaware unless they've been peeking. It's not widely reported at all.

Gauge, Huber, Ziminski, and Jumpkick Man all have a lot of bad criminal history between them as well. Gauge was illegally carrying that night and Ziminski illegally discharged the first shot (you most definitely aren't supposed to just shoot in the air like that, particularly with a crowd around).

They do still have the right to peacefully protest unmolested though, and Kyle obviously violated their rights in that respect.

[LiberalFighter]

30. Despicable but vigilantes have no rights.

[Kaleva]

36. The jury probably isn't aware.

[Sur Zobra]

67. I guarantee you that many on the jury

know that Rosenbaum was a convicted child molester. That fact was widely reported. Probably no one in WI doesn’t know that.

[tenderfoot]

94. Why isn't anyone asking why he was roaming the streets?

being a child sex abuser and all...

[tenderfoot]

77. I think you're telling us that you support Rittenhouse's actions

and using the sex offender to make it look you're not.

I'm not sorry that man can't hurt anyone anymore but his criminal background has nothing to do with Rittenhouse's blood thirsty cowardice.

[Kaleva]

86. What I'm saying is the jury may be less inclined to throw the book at Rittenhouse

and maybe vote to convict on a lesser charge if they are aware of Rosenbuam's past.

As for Rittenhouse, if you read my past posts, you'll see where I said I think he's an idiot and had no business being there so obviously, I don't support his actions.

[Jedi Guy]

4. Of course he is. He wouldn't be getting a fat payday otherwise. Yachts don't buy themselves.

And let us not forget all the media exposure. This trial is a bonanza for the defense and, depending on the verdict, may prove to be a springboard for one or more of the prosecutors. Though at least they had the good taste not to say it out loud.

[gratuitous]

5. Let me guess

Rosenbaum was no angel, and as we all know from countless stories about it, having a firearm allows any person to know in an instant if someone in the vicinity is "no angel" (In bright words flashing across the forehead? I don't know). So we can all be glad that young Kyle shot that horrid man.

[Ocelot II]

6. A sane juror would find that remark offensive, and any sympathy they might have felt

for Rittenhouse would likely evaporate. Two men are dead and one was injured, and the attorney could have presented the case as an unfortunate occurrence in which a frightened kid overreacted. It's weak, but at least it's not so overtly offensive.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. Rosenbaum was convicted of raping children.

Rittenhouse is still a murderer.

What a bunch of creeps.

[madaboutharry]

10. Edited: Now I know it is true.

His victims must be having a hard time processing this trial.

Thanks for the info below.

[Dr. Strange]

11. Isn't it?

Newly released Joseph Rosenbaum sex offender documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Joseph Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/

[madaboutharry]

15. Thank you for the information.

I didn’t see this reported on national televised news. The media seemed to keep it quiet as to not taint the jury.

Upsetting to say the least, of course it doesn’t change the facts of this case.

[Devil Child]

12. Rosenbaum was a child rapist

Rosenbaum's history is matter of public record. Rosenbaum's charges regarding his multiple rapes of multiple children

COUNT ONE: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE FELONY)
On or about the month of February, 2002 through the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (name removed) a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

COUNT TWO: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (second victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

COUNT THREE: (FURNISHING OBSCENE OR HARMFUL ITEMS TO MINORS, A CLASS FOUR FELONY)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM, with knowledge of the character of the item involved, recklessly furnished, presented, provided, made available, gave, lent, showed, advertised, distributed an item harmful to minors, to (second victim), a minor under eighteen years of age, to Wit: photographs of nude women including their genitals.

COUNT FOUR: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE Felony)
On or about the 27th day at March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (second victim), a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

COUNT FIVE: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (third victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

COURT SIX: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by inserting his penis into the victim’s mouth.

COUNT SEVEN: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by placing his mouth on the victim’s penis.

COUNT EIGHT: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his hand.

COUNT NINE: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by causing the victim to touch his penis.

COUNT TEN: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fifth victim), a child under fifteen years of age, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his finger.

COUNT ELEVEN: (INDECENT EXPOSURE TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS SIX FELONY)
On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM indecently exposed his genitals to (fifth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by showing the victim his penis.

[madaboutharry]

14. I didn't know about this.

Now it makes sense why there wasn’t anyone testifying about his character.

[Tribetime]

25. Didn't you post about Bill Clinton being with Epstein

[Celerity]

46. Rittenhouse had no a priori knowledge of this, thus it is completely immaterial.

Even if Rittenhouse knew, he had ZERO right to act as a vigilante judge, jury, and executioner.

That is the most basic of foundations for the rule of law and American jurisprudence.

[Ocelot II]

89. Exactly right. He shot a guy, not knowing anything about him, so the character of the victim

has nothing to do with the guilt of the shooter. Rittenhouse can't defend himself by arguing that his actions were justifiable because the guy was a sex offender if he didn't know that, and clearly he didn't. He wasn't out looking for sex offenders to shoot; he was a vigilante who was shooting at protesters, not knowing a thing about them.

[BlackSkimmer]

92. Ugh, the guy was disgusting.

Rittenhouse however had no right to shoot him.

Still, just yuck.

[Raine]

16. I looked it up, Snopes confirmed it. nt

[Voltaire2]

90. and?

that makes it ok to murder him?

[PDT69]

9. I agree.

Poor choice of words.

[Crunchy Frog]

13. Because all 17 year olds should be encouraged to act as judge, jury, and executioners

for everyone who's done bad things in their lives. That's the best justice system that we could possibly have.

[2naSalit]

22. +1

[Skittles]

24. I cannot believe how many DUers think is just swell behavior

that is just FUCKED UP

[Crunchy Frog]

29. It may be DU, but it's still 'Merka.

That's what I'm beginning to conclude.

[Skittles]

32. it is just plain sickening

I've never seen so many apologists for what is essentially FASCIST behavior

[Crunchy Frog]

33. There's a tremendously large, or at least vocal,

group of DU posters who completely embrace the American culture of gun fetishization. It seems to be an indelible part of American culture, even among "progressives".

It always comes out when this sort of thing is in the news. It's making me think that I don't belong in this country anymore.

[LiberatedUSA]

43. I think we have different views on what constitutes fascist behavior.

For instance, here is an example of what I consider to be fascist behavior:

Wanting a law passed that -

1 - Bans semi-automatic weapons (under the idea that they are only good for mass murder) saying anyone that has them must sell them to the government by a certain date.

2 - Make sure that ban does not include the same cops you protested for murder all year of 2020; there by ensuring the only people who have weapons you say are only good for mass murder are the same people you don’t trust not to murder you.

3 - Telling the owners of these “mass murder” weapons they must not only sell them, but at a price you set, not them. If they don’t like it, make the implication be that the same cops we protest for murdering people will be armed with the same guns we say only belong on a battlefield field, will be coming under threat of arrest or death to take your guns and no longer pay for your property either.

Sounds pretty strong-arm authoritarian to me.

[Devil Child]

60. "Sounds pretty strong-arm authoritarian to me."

That's because it is.

Damn good post LiberatedUSA.

[Whiskeytide]

41. Can I not think Rittenhouse is ...

… a gun humping punk that went looking for trouble and shot three people because he found it, and also not lose sleep because somewhere a 10 year old boy may not suffer abuse since a predator is dead?

I don’t know anything about Rosenbaum’s crimes other than what I’ve seen of the reporting on it. But from that it seems heinous. Rittenhouse didn’t know that history when the cowardly piece of shit opened fire, so it is NOT an excuse for his actions. He should suffer for those actions.

But I feel about Rosenbaum much like I’d feel if he had been hit by a bus. Kind of a “good riddance” thing. Though I’d be sorry for the bus driver having to endure that.

[Skittles]

72. so justice requires the perfect victim

got it

[Whiskeytide]

84. Not at all what I said. But well attempted. n/t

[Skittles]

87. that is EXACTLY what you are saying

you can be a gun humping white supremacist racist piece of shit but as long as you murder the right people THAT'S FINE...otherwise, why even bring up their background? Whatever THEY were, Rittenhouse is a DOUBLE MURDERER

DONE HERE

[Whiskeytide]

88. Reread my post. I specifically said that ...

… Rosenbaum’s past crimes were “NOT an excuse for (Rittenhouse’s) actions” and that “(Rittenhouse) should suffer for those actions.”

I specifically and clearly said that, in print. It’s right there in my post. Read them aloud if that will help you comprehend them.

The whole point of my post was to describe that one can justifiably feel contempt for both of them. I don’t plan to lose any sleep over the fact that Rosenbaum is dead. He shouldn’t have been killed by some wanna-be vigilante shopping the streets for an opportunity to AR-15 someone (no one should), but he was apparently a monster. He shouldn’t have died because of his crimes (I oppose the death penalty), but he’s dead and the children in his vicinity are likely safer. The whole shit show is a tragedy piled on top of another tragedy, but Rosenbaum’s death is not touching my heart. I’m sorry, but that’s how I feel.

[Celerity]

47. +1000. It is gobsmacking how deeply entrenched reactionary thought is here across

a broad spectrum of issues.

[BlackSkimmer]

70. I'm not seeing anyone who thinks this was "swell" behavior.

I just see people who aren’t wasting tears over a child rapist.

It in no way changes the fact that Rittenhouse is a punk murderer.

[MustLoveBeagles]

83. +1

[Torchlight]

96. It's certainly frustrating to read excuses wrapped up in plausible deniability.

"No solemn sanctimonious face I pull, nor think I'm pious when I'm only bilious; nor study in my sanctum supercilious, to frame a Sabbath Bill or forge a Bull." ~ Thomas Hood

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. Attorneys pull out all the stops.

He was an unsympathetic victim, but had a sad and ugly life, even before his conviction and sentence.

The weeks leading up to Rosenbaum’s death had been as chaotic as his life. Raised in Texas and Arizona, Rosenbaum met his father only twice and told his mother that he was molested by his alcoholic stepfather “on an almost daily basis,” according to court documents.

When he was 13 his mother was sent to prison for two years, and Rosenbaum was sent off to a group home, where he began using heroin and methamphetamine, according to court documents. By 18, he was in prison for sexual conduct with five preteen boys, the children of people who had taken him in after his mother told him to leave her house, according to a presentencing report. He spent most of the next 14 years behind bars.

Not long after he was released in 2016, he met a woman in Arizona and fathered a child, but the relationship didn’t last. When the woman fled to Kenosha, Rosenbaum chased her.

Sometimes, he posted pictures of his daughter on Facebook. “That is my lil princess,” he wrote in September 2019, a few months after arriving in Kenosha. “She is a daddy’s girl all the way i miss her so much.”

Not long after he was released in 2016, he met a woman in Arizona and fathered a child, but the relationship didn’t last. When the woman fled to Kenosha, Rosenbaum chased her.

Sometimes, he posted pictures of his daughter on Facebook. “That is my lil princess,” he wrote in September 2019, a few months after arriving in Kenosha. “She is a daddy’s girl all the way i miss her so much.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/03/kenosha-shooting-victims/

[Cartoonist]

19. Did Kyle know that?

So it's completely irrelevant.
Shoot first and hope for dirt on your victim.

[Skittles]

31. no shit

DUers who think this A-OK _ WTF

[Kaleva]

40. It's irrelevant even if Kyle knew that.

However, people may feel far less anger about Rosenbaum being killed once they learn of his horrible past.

I suspect, based on what I've read in past posts here about child molesters, that as time goes on, fewer and fewer DUers will express anger at Rittenhouse for killing Rosenbaum.

[Celerity]

48. I doubt situational and subjective ex post facto approval for vigilantism will catch on here.

[Torchlight]

62. Though many may implicitly support vendetta law when it suits them

that ancient tradition has been replaced, regardless of expression of anger or other emotions.

[tblue37]

42. Well, Kyle did dream of becoming a cop, & that's very cop like behavior.

[Voltaire2]

91. And if he did know it would be ok?

WTF.

[Cartoonist]

93. Of course not.

I object to the defense even putting that forward as if it was justified.

[rictofen]

20. Well yes, he said that, but here's the context:

"The defense argued at length that Rittenhouse shot Joseph Rosenbaum, the first man killed that evening, in self-defense, whereas the prosecution aimed to show him as the instigator of the violence.

“Kyle shot Joseph Rosenbaum to stop a threat to his person,” said lead defense attorney Mark Richards. “I’m glad he shot him because if Joseph Rosenbaum had got that gun, I don’t for a minute believe he wouldn’t have used it against somebody else. He was irrational and crazy.”

Richards seemed to take issue with the prosecution describing those who attempted to disarm Rittenhouse as “heroes” and instead described those killed or shot by Rittenhouse as “rioters” or, in the case of Rosenbaum, as a “bad man.” He presented to the jury a slide that listed Anthony Huber—whom Rittenhouse shot and killed after Huber hit him with a skateboard—as a “rioter” who “lifted his middle finger to the police.”"

---

Classic clickbait.

[EndlessWire]

39. I watched those tapes

of the incident with the skateboarder, and I think it is farfetched to say that he acted in self defense. He wasn't surrounded in a circle, and there was considerable distance between them.

It is an arguable shame that a young man with his whole life in front of him just threw it away like this, but he shot and killed two people he didn't know, and maimed another, for nothing. Shame on his mother, and shame on whoever helped him get the gun. He needs to be convicted.

[maxsolomon]

56. for the 100th time, his mother did not purchase the gun.

it was ILLEGALLY purchased for him by his friend Dominick Black.

[Devil Child]

58. Dominick Black

Can't say this name enough and I await the results of his trial for his role in straw-purchasing the rifle for Rittenhouse.

Thank you for your continued efforts in drawing attention to him.

[Polybius]

63. Why would he attack a guy with an assault weapon with a skateboard?

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I am in no way excusing Rittenhouse (he shouldn't have shot him), but I'm trying to understand the logic. It's suicide.

[kcr]

71. Someone who was trying to save the lives of others

by thwarting an active shooter.

[Polybius]

95. I get that

But it's not smart at all to do. But he had Rittenhouse beat, as he hit him. Had he hit his head hard he could have knocked him out. A shame he didn't.

[WHITT]

61. Defense Attorney

“I’m glad he shot him because if Joseph Rosenbaum had got that gun, I don’t for a minute believe he wouldn’t have used it against somebody else.

Assumes facts not in evidence. There's zero reason to believe if those attempting to disarm an active shooter would then have used the gun "against somebody else".

[BlueIdaho]

21. Rittenhouse is happy he murdered Rosenbaum

So why shouldn’t his attorney be glad too? This is insane.

[kcr]

52. In other words

Mass shootings are okay. At least one person in the crowd is bound to be someone awful. So, go have some fun and let off some steam! Let "the letter of the law" take care of the rest.

This is the world they want. Meanwhile they will run off to their well-appointed bunkers and let the world burn.