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IIRC, he wont allow terms like victim to be used because it may prejudice a jury, but its OK to use perjorative terms like rioters, looters, and vandals?
Did I hear that right? This was in coverage early on in the trial, and I was WTF. Its been eating at me ever since, especially seeing how this judge is such a clown.
TIA for any clarification.
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)So much was made of not using the word "victims," but he does it in most of his other trials, because he thinks it's prejudicial against a claim of self-defense. So it wasn't some Rittenhouse specific thing. Another win for the informative media there. It would've taken a quick glance to know it wasn't strange, but no one thought to look it up I guess.
He stated people could use the other words if that is what they were doing within the evidence presented.
I don't think the defense ever used those words about the victims. I think they may have used it against other people present. Not sure. But I think they left it alone when it came to the actual people shot. Maybe something about Rosenbaum in the closing? I mean, they did call him crazy. Can't quite remember.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)But in other trials does he allow potentially loaded terms?
I dont necessarily have a problem with it, as long as its not a double standard.
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)I mean, I've been using the word victims in my discussion, but I'm not a court.
I honestly couldn't say about the other terms. Someone would have to go through the judge's previous trials to figure the answer. I did glance around when this first came up, but I didn't see any reporting anywhere on it.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Photos of him with the proud boys wearing a Free As Fuck t shirt.
And what's with the judge having Rittenhouse pulled numbers for which jurors sit on the panel?
Was it his birthday or something?
localroger
(3,631 posts)Even on YouTube it looked as genuine as a seven dollar bill. The defense had the better case on technical points, but emotionally it was a disaster, and this is going to be decided by laymen, not a professional lawyer.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)I think I heard its an antiquated practice. I guess its to prevent the defense from saying it was rigged? Dunno.
Hav
(5,969 posts)Similarly, from what I read, the judge didn't allow the defense to bring up the criminal records of the victims. That alone would have overshadowed any significance those photos might have had in persuading the jury.
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)This is what we're fighting against. This is what CRT is trying to bring attention to.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Seems reasonable to me.
And the judge did not allow criminal history of the victims, which also seems reasonable.
Still hope the jury does the right thing.