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babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:09 AM Nov 2021

Nazis Call for Dead Leftists to be 'Stacked Up Like Cord Wood' Following Rittenhouse Acquittal

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/20/2065335/-Nazis-Call-for-Dead-Leftists-to-be-Stacked-Up-Like-Cord-Wood-Following-Rittenhouse-Acquittal


Nazis Call for Dead Leftists to be 'Stacked Up Like Cord Wood' Following Rittenhouse Acquittal
by Mark C. Eades


There will be blood—

White supremacists and others on the far right are celebrating the acquittal of Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse, and the tone of their celebrations appears to confirm fears that their new hero’s acquittal will inspire more right-wing violence. Following the acquittal, right-wing social media platform Gab sent out an email encouraging its users to “buy firearms and form Christian militias.” As NPR reports, celebratory online comments by members of the Proud Boys included a call for dead leftists to be “stacked up like cord wood,” further indicating that the Rittenhouse acquittal will be seen as license to carry out similar acts of violence disguised as “self-defense”:

“This might be interpreted across the far right as a type of permission slip to do this kind of thing or to seek out altercations in this way, believing that there is a potential that they won’t face serious consequences for it,” said Jared Holt, a resident fellow at the Digital Forensic Research Lab at the Atlantic Council. “I worry that that might end up being interpreted by some people as a proof of concept of this idea that you can actually go out and seek a ‘self-defense situation,’ and you’ll be cheered as a hero for it."


“Rittenhouse’s acquittal has already been adopted as a justification for future violence,” observed Alex Newhouse of the Middlebury Institute’s Center on Terrorism, Extremism, and Counterterrorism in Newsweek, “Many see it as a blank check to use violence at leftist protests, others see it as a spark in a coming civil or race war.” Newhouse commented further at BuzzFeed:

“The ‘saints’ of the far right include the Charleston, Christchurch, Poway, Pittsburgh, and El Paso shooters… and now they also include Rittenhouse.... They have all rallied around Rittenhouse as a person who walks the walk of revolutionary [and] accelerationist myth; he actually went out onto the streets and took violent action against protesters…. There’s precedent for acquittals like this to be used in inciting to and carrying out further violence.... Already, the far right is using Rittenhouse’s full acquittal as tacit approval of at least vigilante violence—and, in many cases, they’re calling for the expansion of anti-leftist political violence more broadly.”


Meanwhile in Congress, Nazi tourism enthusiast Madison Cawthorn, white supremacist one-man freak show Paul Gosar, and sex-trafficking frat boy Matt Gaetz all want Rittenhouse to come and work for them as a congressional intern, as a reward for killing leftists and getting away with it, and so that he can roam the corridors of the Capitol trying to intimidate liberal congresswomen. Cawthorn also celebrated Rittenhouse’s acquittal by telling his supporters to follow the latter’s example, “be armed,” and “be dangerous.”

None of this bodes well for America’s near future, as progressive commentators observe with alarm. “Kyle Rittenhouse’s future looks hideously bright,” writes Kali Holloway at The Daily Beast, “What his trial ultimately proved beyond a reasonable doubt is that white supremacy is the only law that truly matters, the one organizing principle of American society that provides grounds for any action taken in its name.” As Ja’han Jones further observes at MSNBC, “Conservatives are encouraging white vigilantes like Rittenhouse to police progressive spaces by all means.” According to MSNBC legal analyst Maya Wiley, “We’re in more danger today than yesterday.”

—Trying hard to be optimistic, but finding it a little bit more difficult each day.

(Mark C. Eades is a writer, educator, California voter, and member of Democrats Abroad currently working in Asia)
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Nazis Call for Dead Leftists to be 'Stacked Up Like Cord Wood' Following Rittenhouse Acquittal (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2021 OP
Every life is not sacred to them. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #1
I have the same experience. Cowardice is intrinsic on the hard right. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #47
Hate crimes and public nuisances bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #2
Well that didn't take long. Bluethroughu Nov 2021 #3
It's really a blueprint that's been used in 3rd world countries Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #4
one victim's parents are coming with civil suit. Captain Zero Nov 2021 #43
Open season on anyone who doesn't agree with RWers . ... Lovie777 Nov 2021 #5
There bdamomma Nov 2021 #8
There are also more Democrats in the USA than Republicans, HUAJIAO Nov 2021 #13
1933 Germany had more Democrats than Nazis. jaxexpat Nov 2021 #32
No reason to give up. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #39
No. giving up is not allowed. jaxexpat Nov 2021 #41
It's bad enough that there are people craving violence, notinkansas Nov 2021 #35
Bullies can't be placated. They will encroach until stopped. nt live love laugh Nov 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #20
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #7
Not sure your post is the answer. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #11
Not meant as an answer 3825-87867 Nov 2021 #19
Yes they seem to think there will be no pushback bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #21
We would benefit if Cawthorne, Gosar & Gaetz hired the stupid, unwise, school dropout Rittenhouse.nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #9
Yeah. And Rittenhouse could bring his gun to work, just in case he needed raccoon Nov 2021 #12
Kinda goes without saying. dchill Nov 2021 #38
The metal detectors at the Capitol might go off DFW Nov 2021 #56
Thus us created the history that will be written about in the years to come. HUAJIAO Nov 2021 #10
CHRISTIANS!!!! Traildogbob Nov 2021 #14
please do not fill some of those with some of us we tend to do gods work. AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #31
I get that vibe here a lot more than I should. ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #42
The why Traildogbob Nov 2021 #44
And I do not Traildogbob Nov 2021 #46
I agree with you. malletgirl02 Nov 2021 #45
I agree with the category of far right to describe said groups in OP. BeckyDem Nov 2021 #15
My policy is to never use "Nazi" unless they call themselves that. I'll use fascist or white brewens Nov 2021 #16
A lot of these groups now openly and proudly declare themselves Nazis. yardwork Nov 2021 #17
Slave owners also claimed to be Christians. The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #22
fuck nazis. spanone Nov 2021 #23
"Trying hard to be optimistic. but finding it a little bit more difficult each day." panader0 Nov 2021 #24
Exactly. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #49
One thing that bothers me in this tiredtoo Nov 2021 #25
Yeah, what gets me is the first thing out of most of their mouths is, "I'm not a racist, but..." PatrickforB Nov 2021 #28
Well I'm sure that the GOP will condemn this Nazi sentiment Orrex Nov 2021 #26
These traitorous freaks are a cancer on our society. PatrickforB Nov 2021 #27
It doesn't help that police are helping to make this happen. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #29
well llashram Nov 2021 #30
Disgusted by Kenosha Farce Mr. Steve Nov 2021 #33
"buy firearms and form Christian militias" Martin Eden Nov 2021 #34
Well, he'd have to kill himself first. dchill Nov 2021 #40
I didn't think of that. Martin Eden Nov 2021 #50
How about we classify these groups as direct Nazis Aviation Pro Nov 2021 #36
We're way, way too negative, fearful, and angry. We need to chill. gulliver Nov 2021 #37
Every state is not Wisconsin ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #48
Yeah that's what Nazis do. We should've wiped them out completely during WW2 rockfordfile Nov 2021 #51
The firebombing of Dresden was morally correct. Dawson Leery Nov 2021 #52
Hopefully Sane Wins Out colsohlibgal Nov 2021 #53
If they want it, bring it on. jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #54
Yawn,💤 same old, 💩 same old 💩 nt Raine Nov 2021 #55
And look how it turned out for the Nazi's in the end vercetti2021 Nov 2021 #57

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
1. Every life is not sacred to them.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:36 AM
Nov 2021

The Trumpers who I know all have one similar attribute, they are all paranoid, extremely paranoid. They keep loaded guns in the homes while living in safe communities because they imagine being attacked by "the others."

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
2. Hate crimes and public nuisances
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:37 AM
Nov 2021

Moral nihilism with little idea of the implications of what they're saying. If they did what they talk about, then what? When the entire human race is like them, who's the next victim?

Bluethroughu

(5,186 posts)
3. Well that didn't take long.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:52 AM
Nov 2021

This is gross, if these had been a people of color organization saying these things, threatening, and killing....
There would be a cross country round up, shoot first ask questions later.

Where is our anti-terrorism task force.

Why is that caufield character still in Congress after his statement?

Buckeyeblue

(5,501 posts)
4. It's really a blueprint that's been used in 3rd world countries
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:56 AM
Nov 2021

Where factions decide to take on the role of protectors, whether you want them to or not. I think the one thing these groups forget is that Rittenhouse had a very good attorney and some circumstances that fell his way.

Local attempts at this model won't get the attention this case has and you'll get people trying to be like him convicted of murder.

I do think a civil case could be interesting. I wonder if this is one the Southern Poverty Law Center would take on?

Also, does Rittenhouse have to pay taxes on contributions to his legal fund?

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
43. one victim's parents are coming with civil suit.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:36 AM
Nov 2021

If you read their statement. The Huber's?
They are coming, and they are also coming for the Kenosha police who enabled him. As well they should.

Lovie777

(12,326 posts)
5. Open season on anyone who doesn't agree with RWers . ...
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:58 AM
Nov 2021

GQP politicians openingly calling for violence and killings. Hopefully all uppers agencies are on this because at this point the judicial and current police are corrupt.

Shithole is pro-death against all opposition.

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
8. There
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:07 AM
Nov 2021

are more of us than them. These are so called "patriots" hate America are not the majority of people.

We know they spew hate, division and rage.

HUAJIAO

(2,397 posts)
13. There are also more Democrats in the USA than Republicans,
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:10 AM
Nov 2021

which no longer seems to matter in elections..

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
32. 1933 Germany had more Democrats than Nazis.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:58 AM
Nov 2021

By 1939, there were few who dismissed Nazis. It's a thing. A real bad thing, that people do.

Elessar Zappa

(14,047 posts)
39. No reason to give up.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:17 AM
Nov 2021

As long as we outnumber them, we have a shot at stopping them. They’re not all powerful and we’re not powerless and helpless.

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
41. No. giving up is not allowed.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:32 AM
Nov 2021

However an honest assessment of facts is always good. What is the best response? Protest? Civil disobedience? Elect more Democrats? Education is essentially blocked at all levels. The DOJ is too slow. The courts get corrupted faster than the law can be implemented. Both are slow, long term applications and the Nazis have a head start. What, then, is possible? Civil war. Some will refuse to participate for fear of personal fiscal disaster. Lincoln had to draft his Patriots. I'm depressing myself.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
35. It's bad enough that there are people craving violence,
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:04 AM
Nov 2021

so it's truly disheartening that there is so much rot in the systems in place that are supposed to protect us.

I don't care how many contortions the jurors went through trying to justify their decision. THOU SHALT NOT KILL supersedes any vagaries in the law.

Response to live love laugh (Reply #6)

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

3825-87867

(855 posts)
19. Not meant as an answer
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:37 AM
Nov 2021

Just that it seems what's good for the goose...

Too many Democrats are comfortable in their way of life to be "bothered" to care and especially to not vote. "It doesn't affect me so I really don't care right now."

But when it does affect them, they'll be the first to bitch and complain that nothing is being done.

So much for the "we'll go high" bullshit!

"Nice guys finish last." - Leo Durocher (Dodge BB Manage)

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
21. Yes they seem to think there will be no pushback
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:41 AM
Nov 2021

as well as no informants. Every one of their soft minds is a potential weak link in the chain. Not sure if they are capable of figuring that out.

dchill

(38,532 posts)
38. Kinda goes without saying.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:15 AM
Nov 2021

Kyle clearly has a right to self-defense that Trumps the rest of the world. He's now truly legit.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
56. The metal detectors at the Capitol might go off
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 04:39 AM
Nov 2021

And after Jan. 6th, so might the Capitol Police. Trying to bring a gun into the Capitol these days, especially if you're not a member of Congress, might be detrimental to your health these days.

Traildogbob

(8,797 posts)
14. CHRISTIANS!!!!
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:11 AM
Nov 2021

Gob must be proud. Happy JESUS day to all. Maybe all those GOOD Christian’s need to start talking, or are they all the same? Power and Greed achieved by hate and killing. Seems to have always been the driving force of all religion.

AllaN01Bear

(18,384 posts)
31. please do not fill some of those with some of us we tend to do gods work.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:57 AM
Nov 2021

im sick and tired of people on here painting with a broad brush, so dont lump some of us with those so called "christians" who arnt. ps its a noisy minority who ruin it for everyone else .

ForgedCrank

(1,782 posts)
42. I get that vibe here a lot more than I should.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:35 AM
Nov 2021

I feel like I am constantly called crazy for being a Christian, stupid and uneducated for being a rural resident, a gun humper for being pro 2A, and my rights are often referred to as freedumbs.
It is insulting to me as I am a loyal voting Democrat and always will be. I try to just ignore it, but I don't think some people understand the damage they can do with such comments. We are supposed to be inclusive. I fight for what is right and all things Democratic, but it literally makes me wonder if I belong here sometimes.

Traildogbob

(8,797 posts)
44. The why
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:15 PM
Nov 2021

Are the Majority NOT Screaming defending those “GOOD ONES”? Not hearing a word. And they have the loudest pulpits there are. Pastors cheering and chanting the “Fuck Biden” code words? Where is the outrage? The Sick And Tired? My family included. Jesus Jesus Jesus and God sent Trump. Too many GOOD ones remain silent, fine with the violence, death threats, hate, even death because they want to reap the benefits of power and one religion rule forced onto every body. When I see the GOOD ONES unite to shut this crap down, I will put away the broad brush. Use that pulpit, there are literally hundreds of Jesus Stations on TV and who knows how many on radio. I love and respect the Jimmy Carters out there. The rest, not so much. Not seen a loud outrage of “No God did not”.

Traildogbob

(8,797 posts)
46. And I do not
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:51 PM
Nov 2021

Speak for all of DU or all Dems. I only speak for me. I would love to see some GOOD ones defending GOD so I can have support against my Christian family and their false prophet. My late wife’s family, all highly respect in Church, First Baptist-the elite people of the county, in church four times a week, tried like hell to steal everything she left to her daughter after lose to cancer when she was 10. Had to fight in court. They took a lot before we shut them down. Steal high up the the church hierarchy. My dad is a proud trumper GQP, says he doed not believe anything not in the Bible. Claims her read it 3 times. 6 th grade grad, can’t find his way around the TV guide. Brother adopted a mixed race, black/white, child. Racist as hell with all the “God Blesses” you can stand to hear. God sent trump Christian. Marginal Trailer Queen is a God send.
I speak for me. So please GOOD ONES, show me where the fight is to prove them all wrong.
I feel sure there are some bibles demands about defending gods reputation and words. Just not in the book my dad read three times and a huge amount of the loudest Christian’s. USE THAT PULPIT. It has the largest audience in the world.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
45. I agree with you.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
Nov 2021

My parents are very committed Christians, and they are the most loving and least judgmental people I know.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
15. I agree with the category of far right to describe said groups in OP.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:17 AM
Nov 2021

I'm not certain we can remove the jury from that group, and that worries me a great deal. We seem to have come to a place where the principle of BLM, after all, is essentially about our humanity, and the jury declared a white boy was free to kill those standing up for black people. The judge described them as looters and rioters, making clear they were not to be seen as victims.

The danger has indeed become much more palpable today.

brewens

(13,620 posts)
16. My policy is to never use "Nazi" unless they call themselves that. I'll use fascist or white
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

supremacist. I hate getting the Nazis were socialist bullshit. When I do see that, I'll put up a link to real American Nazis, like George Lincoln Rockwell, and challenge them to find anything those guys are saying that is leftist.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
18. Slave owners also claimed to be Christians.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:35 AM
Nov 2021

While they beat and raped their slaves. Good Christians they were.
Christians are also chanting Let's go Brandon in churches all across the nation.
Christianity is dead these filthy pukes have destroyed every lesson Christ taught.

Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #18)

panader0

(25,816 posts)
24. "Trying hard to be optimistic. but finding it a little bit more difficult each day."
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:55 AM
Nov 2021

I think we all need to take a deep breath and realize that pipsqueak Rittenhouse's not guilty
verdict should have been expected. Right wingers and racists have always been with us. I have
read so many posts here on DU that say we all need to buy guns and get ready for civil war and the
end of the US and Democracy is dead and on and on. It has been worse is this nation, in fact, it has
been worse for most of our history. The struggle for equality and civil rights and basic humanity will
always be necessary. I think that in small ways we are improving. When our wonderful and respected
Constitution was written, only white, landowning males could vote. There have been many advances
since then. Science has advanced, knowledge has advanced, communication, etc. Of course there are
many more issues that need to be addressed. The Rittenhouse verdict is evidence of that. The former guy's
administration is evidence, climate change is evidence, etc. But I firmly reject the constant doom and
gloom, especially lately over the punk in Kenosha.
Breathe deep, gather yourselves again, and be the change you seek.

Elessar Zappa

(14,047 posts)
49. Exactly.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:43 PM
Nov 2021

We didn’t even resemble a true democracy until the 60s, when Jim Crow voting restrictions were thrown out. Now, we’re backsliding a bit but it’s not hopeless. As you say, we must be the change, volunteer for Democrats, charities, whatever to make this world a better place. Donate to worthy causes. Show up at the school board meetings. Run for school board, run for town council. That’s what will turn our country around, not giving up and wallowing in doom.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
25. One thing that bothers me in this
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:56 AM
Nov 2021

Is, of the few cultists that still talk to me, only 1 admits to being a racist.

PatrickforB

(14,587 posts)
28. Yeah, what gets me is the first thing out of most of their mouths is, "I'm not a racist, but..."
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:44 AM
Nov 2021

They ARE. They really ARE.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
26. Well I'm sure that the GOP will condemn this Nazi sentiment
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:04 AM
Nov 2021

Just kidding. They know that Nazis make up about 80% of their base and wi ll do literally anything to placate them.

PatrickforB

(14,587 posts)
27. These traitorous freaks are a cancer on our society.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:42 AM
Nov 2021

I'm a bit older, so this rhetoric on race war reminds me of Charles Manson and his 'helter skelter.' It was sick then and it is sick now.

The quote that 'got' me here is, "What his trial ultimately proved beyond a reasonable doubt is that white supremacy is the only law that truly matters, the one organizing principle of American society that provides grounds for any action taken in its name.”

Go back to 2011 and I would have thought you were crazy if you told me things like this would be happening in just ten years. I honestly, at that time, thought we were better than this.

These fucks are actually going to try and foment a civil war. And, sadly, the thing about it is THEY WILL LOSE, but it will be bloody, costly, and will hurt every single family in this republic. But a whole bunch of these armed and dangerous Nazi brownshirts will be dead at the end of it, that's for sure. Too bad a bunch of us will be too.

You know, racism is ugly. It was ugly in 1621. It was ugly in 1861. It was ugly in the reconstruction. It was ugly in WWII. It was ugly in Jim Crow days, and it is ugly now. It just sucks that people can even think that way. But the people who do may find that most of us don't and that when push comes to shove, we will be willing to fight for what we believe in.

Mr. Steve

(114 posts)
33. Disgusted by Kenosha Farce
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:59 AM
Nov 2021

I wonder where the nation I knew as a young man has gone. I would have thought, considering my background as a Massachusetts born son of a woodworker and a cashier, that staying away from troubled sites was a way to stay out of trouble. Apparently, i have been wrong my entire life. The Kenosha Farce has shown me that the only way to be safe is to go on the attack and do damage to anyone while claiming self-defense. I must be such a simpleton to think that the best way to defend oneself is to stay away from any area where danger would be most likely present. The Kenosha Farce has given me a deep sense that my entire life has been for naught and conservative stupidity is the only way to be. I am sickened by the entire affair and considering my age, i am looking for my release without fear but more of a sense of anticipation

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
50. I didn't think of that.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 02:11 PM
Nov 2021

Radical leftists who preach peace, love, and inclusion while railing against the money changers in the temple would be a prime target of these "Christian" militias.

Aviation Pro

(12,186 posts)
36. How about we classify these groups as direct Nazis
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:05 AM
Nov 2021

From the Reich bloodline and hunt them down like the Israelis?

gulliver

(13,193 posts)
37. We're way, way too negative, fearful, and angry. We need to chill.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:05 AM
Nov 2021

Rittenhouse's acquittal doesn't mean open season on anyone. It doesn't mean white guys showing up at every protest with AR-15s. If anything, it makes that less likely. The poor broken units in the white nationalism movement are one of our keys to expanding our control of the suburbs.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
52. The firebombing of Dresden was morally correct.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 02:16 PM
Nov 2021

That included ALL civilian areas (hospitals too). Nazi victory would have meant the end of all racial minorities.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
53. Hopefully Sane Wins Out
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:25 AM
Nov 2021

Crazy and Evil gets attention but have to think there are lots more of us than them. Hopefully that wins out in the end.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
54. If they want it, bring it on.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:42 AM
Nov 2021

Let them make their prized, self-pitying "Great Replacement Theory" a self-fulfilling prophecy by starting a civil war they will never win. The only end result will be the existence of far fewer dumb, armed white people in this nation than there are now.....and that would be a good thing.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
57. And look how it turned out for the Nazi's in the end
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 04:54 AM
Nov 2021

We'll beat them, we'll defeat them, and we'll protect our fucking democracy like nothing else. America won't die, we'll fight to keep her alive no matter what they do. We'll fight if they come looking for the trouble.

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