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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/20/2065335/-Nazis-Call-for-Dead-Leftists-to-be-Stacked-Up-Like-Cord-Wood-Following-Rittenhouse-AcquittalNazis Call for Dead Leftists to be 'Stacked Up Like Cord Wood' Following Rittenhouse Acquittal
by Mark C. Eades
There will be blood
White supremacists and others on the far right are celebrating the acquittal of Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse, and the tone of their celebrations appears to confirm fears that their new heros acquittal will inspire more right-wing violence. Following the acquittal, right-wing social media platform Gab sent out an email encouraging its users to buy firearms and form Christian militias. As NPR reports, celebratory online comments by members of the Proud Boys included a call for dead leftists to be stacked up like cord wood, further indicating that the Rittenhouse acquittal will be seen as license to carry out similar acts of violence disguised as self-defense:
Rittenhouses acquittal has already been adopted as a justification for future violence, observed Alex Newhouse of the Middlebury Institutes Center on Terrorism, Extremism, and Counterterrorism in Newsweek, Many see it as a blank check to use violence at leftist protests, others see it as a spark in a coming civil or race war. Newhouse commented further at BuzzFeed:
Meanwhile in Congress, Nazi tourism enthusiast Madison Cawthorn, white supremacist one-man freak show Paul Gosar, and sex-trafficking frat boy Matt Gaetz all want Rittenhouse to come and work for them as a congressional intern, as a reward for killing leftists and getting away with it, and so that he can roam the corridors of the Capitol trying to intimidate liberal congresswomen. Cawthorn also celebrated Rittenhouses acquittal by telling his supporters to follow the latters example, be armed, and be dangerous.
None of this bodes well for Americas near future, as progressive commentators observe with alarm. Kyle Rittenhouses future looks hideously bright, writes Kali Holloway at The Daily Beast, What his trial ultimately proved beyond a reasonable doubt is that white supremacy is the only law that truly matters, the one organizing principle of American society that provides grounds for any action taken in its name. As Jahan Jones further observes at MSNBC, Conservatives are encouraging white vigilantes like Rittenhouse to police progressive spaces by all means. According to MSNBC legal analyst Maya Wiley, Were in more danger today than yesterday.
Trying hard to be optimistic, but finding it a little bit more difficult each day.
(Mark C. Eades is a writer, educator, California voter, and member of Democrats Abroad currently working in Asia)
gab13by13
(21,402 posts)The Trumpers who I know all have one similar attribute, they are all paranoid, extremely paranoid. They keep loaded guns in the homes while living in safe communities because they imagine being attacked by "the others."
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)Moral nihilism with little idea of the implications of what they're saying. If they did what they talk about, then what? When the entire human race is like them, who's the next victim?
Bluethroughu
(5,186 posts)This is gross, if these had been a people of color organization saying these things, threatening, and killing....
There would be a cross country round up, shoot first ask questions later.
Where is our anti-terrorism task force.
Why is that caufield character still in Congress after his statement?
Buckeyeblue
(5,501 posts)Where factions decide to take on the role of protectors, whether you want them to or not. I think the one thing these groups forget is that Rittenhouse had a very good attorney and some circumstances that fell his way.
Local attempts at this model won't get the attention this case has and you'll get people trying to be like him convicted of murder.
I do think a civil case could be interesting. I wonder if this is one the Southern Poverty Law Center would take on?
Also, does Rittenhouse have to pay taxes on contributions to his legal fund?
Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)If you read their statement. The Huber's?
They are coming, and they are also coming for the Kenosha police who enabled him. As well they should.
Lovie777
(12,326 posts)GQP politicians openingly calling for violence and killings. Hopefully all uppers agencies are on this because at this point the judicial and current police are corrupt.
Shithole is pro-death against all opposition.
are more of us than them. These are so called "patriots" hate America are not the majority of people.
We know they spew hate, division and rage.
HUAJIAO
(2,397 posts)which no longer seems to matter in elections..
jaxexpat
(6,849 posts)By 1939, there were few who dismissed Nazis. It's a thing. A real bad thing, that people do.
Elessar Zappa
(14,047 posts)As long as we outnumber them, we have a shot at stopping them. Theyre not all powerful and were not powerless and helpless.
jaxexpat
(6,849 posts)However an honest assessment of facts is always good. What is the best response? Protest? Civil disobedience? Elect more Democrats? Education is essentially blocked at all levels. The DOJ is too slow. The courts get corrupted faster than the law can be implemented. Both are slow, long term applications and the Nazis have a head start. What, then, is possible? Civil war. Some will refuse to participate for fear of personal fiscal disaster. Lincoln had to draft his Patriots. I'm depressing myself.
notinkansas
(1,096 posts)so it's truly disheartening that there is so much rot in the systems in place that are supposed to protect us.
I don't care how many contortions the jurors went through trying to justify their decision. THOU SHALT NOT KILL supersedes any vagaries in the law.
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gab13by13
(21,402 posts)3825-87867
(855 posts)Just that it seems what's good for the goose...
Too many Democrats are comfortable in their way of life to be "bothered" to care and especially to not vote. "It doesn't affect me so I really don't care right now."
But when it does affect them, they'll be the first to bitch and complain that nothing is being done.
So much for the "we'll go high" bullshit!
"Nice guys finish last." - Leo Durocher (Dodge BB Manage)
bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)as well as no informants. Every one of their soft minds is a potential weak link in the chain. Not sure if they are capable of figuring that out.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)raccoon
(31,119 posts)To defend himself.
dchill
(38,532 posts)Kyle clearly has a right to self-defense that Trumps the rest of the world. He's now truly legit.
DFW
(54,436 posts)And after Jan. 6th, so might the Capitol Police. Trying to bring a gun into the Capitol these days, especially if you're not a member of Congress, might be detrimental to your health these days.
HUAJIAO
(2,397 posts)Traildogbob
(8,797 posts)Gob must be proud. Happy JESUS day to all. Maybe all those GOOD Christians need to start talking, or are they all the same? Power and Greed achieved by hate and killing. Seems to have always been the driving force of all religion.
AllaN01Bear
(18,384 posts)im sick and tired of people on here painting with a broad brush, so dont lump some of us with those so called "christians" who arnt. ps its a noisy minority who ruin it for everyone else .
ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)I feel like I am constantly called crazy for being a Christian, stupid and uneducated for being a rural resident, a gun humper for being pro 2A, and my rights are often referred to as freedumbs.
It is insulting to me as I am a loyal voting Democrat and always will be. I try to just ignore it, but I don't think some people understand the damage they can do with such comments. We are supposed to be inclusive. I fight for what is right and all things Democratic, but it literally makes me wonder if I belong here sometimes.
Traildogbob
(8,797 posts)Are the Majority NOT Screaming defending those GOOD ONES? Not hearing a word. And they have the loudest pulpits there are. Pastors cheering and chanting the Fuck Biden code words? Where is the outrage? The Sick And Tired? My family included. Jesus Jesus Jesus and God sent Trump. Too many GOOD ones remain silent, fine with the violence, death threats, hate, even death because they want to reap the benefits of power and one religion rule forced onto every body. When I see the GOOD ONES unite to shut this crap down, I will put away the broad brush. Use that pulpit, there are literally hundreds of Jesus Stations on TV and who knows how many on radio. I love and respect the Jimmy Carters out there. The rest, not so much. Not seen a loud outrage of No God did not.
Traildogbob
(8,797 posts)Speak for all of DU or all Dems. I only speak for me. I would love to see some GOOD ones defending GOD so I can have support against my Christian family and their false prophet. My late wifes family, all highly respect in Church, First Baptist-the elite people of the county, in church four times a week, tried like hell to steal everything she left to her daughter after lose to cancer when she was 10. Had to fight in court. They took a lot before we shut them down. Steal high up the the church hierarchy. My dad is a proud trumper GQP, says he doed not believe anything not in the Bible. Claims her read it 3 times. 6 th grade grad, cant find his way around the TV guide. Brother adopted a mixed race, black/white, child. Racist as hell with all the God Blesses you can stand to hear. God sent trump Christian. Marginal Trailer Queen is a God send.
I speak for me. So please GOOD ONES, show me where the fight is to prove them all wrong.
I feel sure there are some bibles demands about defending gods reputation and words. Just not in the book my dad read three times and a huge amount of the loudest Christians. USE THAT PULPIT. It has the largest audience in the world.
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)My parents are very committed Christians, and they are the most loving and least judgmental people I know.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I'm not certain we can remove the jury from that group, and that worries me a great deal. We seem to have come to a place where the principle of BLM, after all, is essentially about our humanity, and the jury declared a white boy was free to kill those standing up for black people. The judge described them as looters and rioters, making clear they were not to be seen as victims.
The danger has indeed become much more palpable today.
brewens
(13,620 posts)supremacist. I hate getting the Nazis were socialist bullshit. When I do see that, I'll put up a link to real American Nazis, like George Lincoln Rockwell, and challenge them to find anything those guys are saying that is leftist.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)While they beat and raped their slaves. Good Christians they were.
Christians are also chanting Let's go Brandon in churches all across the nation.
Christianity is dead these filthy pukes have destroyed every lesson Christ taught.
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spanone
(135,873 posts)...and fuck their gunz
panader0
(25,816 posts)I think we all need to take a deep breath and realize that pipsqueak Rittenhouse's not guilty
verdict should have been expected. Right wingers and racists have always been with us. I have
read so many posts here on DU that say we all need to buy guns and get ready for civil war and the
end of the US and Democracy is dead and on and on. It has been worse is this nation, in fact, it has
been worse for most of our history. The struggle for equality and civil rights and basic humanity will
always be necessary. I think that in small ways we are improving. When our wonderful and respected
Constitution was written, only white, landowning males could vote. There have been many advances
since then. Science has advanced, knowledge has advanced, communication, etc. Of course there are
many more issues that need to be addressed. The Rittenhouse verdict is evidence of that. The former guy's
administration is evidence, climate change is evidence, etc. But I firmly reject the constant doom and
gloom, especially lately over the punk in Kenosha.
Breathe deep, gather yourselves again, and be the change you seek.
Elessar Zappa
(14,047 posts)We didnt even resemble a true democracy until the 60s, when Jim Crow voting restrictions were thrown out. Now, were backsliding a bit but its not hopeless. As you say, we must be the change, volunteer for Democrats, charities, whatever to make this world a better place. Donate to worthy causes. Show up at the school board meetings. Run for school board, run for town council. Thats what will turn our country around, not giving up and wallowing in doom.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Is, of the few cultists that still talk to me, only 1 admits to being a racist.
PatrickforB
(14,587 posts)They ARE. They really ARE.
Orrex
(63,224 posts)Just kidding. They know that Nazis make up about 80% of their base and wi ll do literally anything to placate them.
PatrickforB
(14,587 posts)I'm a bit older, so this rhetoric on race war reminds me of Charles Manson and his 'helter skelter.' It was sick then and it is sick now.
The quote that 'got' me here is, "What his trial ultimately proved beyond a reasonable doubt is that white supremacy is the only law that truly matters, the one organizing principle of American society that provides grounds for any action taken in its name.
Go back to 2011 and I would have thought you were crazy if you told me things like this would be happening in just ten years. I honestly, at that time, thought we were better than this.
These fucks are actually going to try and foment a civil war. And, sadly, the thing about it is THEY WILL LOSE, but it will be bloody, costly, and will hurt every single family in this republic. But a whole bunch of these armed and dangerous Nazi brownshirts will be dead at the end of it, that's for sure. Too bad a bunch of us will be too.
You know, racism is ugly. It was ugly in 1621. It was ugly in 1861. It was ugly in the reconstruction. It was ugly in WWII. It was ugly in Jim Crow days, and it is ugly now. It just sucks that people can even think that way. But the people who do may find that most of us don't and that when push comes to shove, we will be willing to fight for what we believe in.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)They all need to be held accountable.
llashram
(6,265 posts)I can see 'righty' magrats the same damn way,.
Mr. Steve
(114 posts)I wonder where the nation I knew as a young man has gone. I would have thought, considering my background as a Massachusetts born son of a woodworker and a cashier, that staying away from troubled sites was a way to stay out of trouble. Apparently, i have been wrong my entire life. The Kenosha Farce has shown me that the only way to be safe is to go on the attack and do damage to anyone while claiming self-defense. I must be such a simpleton to think that the best way to defend oneself is to stay away from any area where danger would be most likely present. The Kenosha Farce has given me a deep sense that my entire life has been for naught and conservative stupidity is the only way to be. I am sickened by the entire affair and considering my age, i am looking for my release without fear but more of a sense of anticipation
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Who would Jesus kill and stack up like cord wood??
dchill
(38,532 posts)Wouldn't be much of a stack.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Radical leftists who preach peace, love, and inclusion while railing against the money changers in the temple would be a prime target of these "Christian" militias.
Aviation Pro
(12,186 posts)From the Reich bloodline and hunt them down like the Israelis?
gulliver
(13,193 posts)Rittenhouse's acquittal doesn't mean open season on anyone. It doesn't mean white guys showing up at every protest with AR-15s. If anything, it makes that less likely. The poor broken units in the white nationalism movement are one of our keys to expanding our control of the suburbs.
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)Try you fuckers.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)That included ALL civilian areas (hospitals too). Nazi victory would have meant the end of all racial minorities.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Crazy and Evil gets attention but have to think there are lots more of us than them. Hopefully that wins out in the end.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Let them make their prized, self-pitying "Great Replacement Theory" a self-fulfilling prophecy by starting a civil war they will never win. The only end result will be the existence of far fewer dumb, armed white people in this nation than there are now.....and that would be a good thing.
Raine
(30,540 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)We'll beat them, we'll defeat them, and we'll protect our fucking democracy like nothing else. America won't die, we'll fight to keep her alive no matter what they do. We'll fight if they come looking for the trouble.