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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 04:02 AM Nov 2021

grandma, granddaughter kicked out of GA hotel at night by cops after leaving negative hotel review

A grandmother and her granddaughter were kicked out of the Baymont Inn & Suites in Helen, Georgia after leaving a negative hotel review on a third-party website.

When Hotels.com asked Susan Leger, to leave a hotel she had no idea that it would lead to the police being called followed by getting kicked out.

Leger gave the hotel three out of five stars, writing to Hotel.com that the accommodation was rundown, pools were not open, and that the toilet didn’t flush well.

She then got a call at 8:40 p.m. from the hotel manager that she would be kicked out of her hotel room, 11 Alive reports.

“This guy is on my cell phone ranting at me, and he said that he’s kicking me out,” Leger said. “He’s called the police, and I have to leave the room.”

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Moments after the call from the hotel manager, an officer from Helen Police Department showed up at Leger’s hotel door to escort her out.

“They can truly kick me out in the middle of the night, from a hotel for giving a review of three and five?” Leger asked the police officer. “And he says, ‘yes, ma’am. It’s within the law.’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-called-on-grandmother-and-granddaughter-after-leaving-negative-hotel-review/ar-AAR2Ncf

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grandma, granddaughter kicked out of GA hotel at night by cops after leaving negative hotel review (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2021 OP
The Republican version of "Freedom of Speech" denbot Nov 2021 #1
Which was the Republican in this story? And it is breach of contract. Her free speech was not touchd Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #18
So her free speech wasn't punished by an organ of the PTB? denbot Nov 2021 #26
The police probably got false claims by the hotel as to the cause. But they should not have been inv Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #28
"it's within the law?" what fucking law is that? orleans Nov 2021 #2
Generally, businesses can refuse any particular customer unblock Nov 2021 #6
Ummm... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #9
Exactly, lying one way or another unblock Nov 2021 #37
Many hotels, restaurants etc respond to reviews - most often to say Thank you karynnj Nov 2021 #43
It doesn't mean it's written in law. Renew Deal Nov 2021 #16
Businesses can choose to not do business w someone if it is not based on race, religion, etc Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #17
I'm with you. I think the hotel broke contract law. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #20
Georgia law Klaralven Nov 2021 #25
It's unethical. But I don't see why it would be illegal fescuerescue Nov 2021 #61
Plantation mentality! SheltieLover Nov 2021 #3
Hope the grandmother and girl got another room for the night PJMcK Nov 2021 #4
The story says that the police officer found them another room at a competing hotel... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #10
Thanks! PJMcK Nov 2021 #11
That make it all good.. denbot Nov 2021 #27
Nah, their online service rebated the cost of the first motel PJMcK Nov 2021 #30
Cool, at least that went their way. denbot Nov 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2021 #38
Hotels.com and Expedia usually come through PJMcK Nov 2021 #40
Maybe the manager was the Karen? iemanja Nov 2021 #57
She was just responding to Hotel.com asking how her fucking room was. MrsCoffee Nov 2021 #59
There was more to the story PJMcK Nov 2021 #64
I hope she was able to edit her review or leave a new one Arkansas Granny Nov 2021 #21
If that picture was the hotel KT2000 Nov 2021 #5
I will not go to HELEN GA. delisen Nov 2021 #7
That place sounds more like ShazzieB Nov 2021 #12
:) Maybe a wise decision. Although there's nothing in the story Hortensis Nov 2021 #48
It wasn't the town. It was the hotel fescuerescue Nov 2021 #62
(In-flight airline passenger reads article) "Uhhhh, maybe I'll wait." Grokenstein Nov 2021 #8
It looks like Hotels.com is no longer listing that establishment... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #13
A best practice would probably be . . . markpkessinger Nov 2021 #14
Agreed Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #19
It would never occur to me to do so BEFORE I LEFT... hlthe2b Nov 2021 #23
She was prompted by Hotels.com asking how the room was. MrsCoffee Nov 2021 #60
I hoe she sues them malaise Nov 2021 #15
I don't see how the hotel could do that without refunding her money captain queeg Nov 2021 #22
Sigh...I feel compelled to inquire as to the grandmother's race. NT maxrandb Nov 2021 #24
Take it from me... Hugin Nov 2021 #34
Her name is Susan Leger onenote Nov 2021 #54
I was speaking from personal experience. Hugin Nov 2021 #58
See post 44 onenote Nov 2021 #52
Three stars seems too high. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #29
Yep. Way too high. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #42
Pro tip: Yelp them from space. Hugin Nov 2021 #31
Yes, Yelp them from Space. . . and include photos, if you can so it reinforces the claim. TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #33
AAA is good to have in your corner Hugin Nov 2021 #35
Photos are a terrific suggestion. Hugin Nov 2021 #36
Yelp them from orbit PJMcK Nov 2021 #41
Oh hell no. But it looks like the motel sealed their own fate with this one ecstatic Nov 2021 #39
Kick dalton99a Nov 2021 #44
Is That 2nd Pic The Room? ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #45
I believe all of them except that view. Hugin Nov 2021 #46
Leaning Your Way ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #47
lol.. "master of the house... extra for looking in mirror twice". Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #49
I call BS LeftInTX Nov 2021 #51
I'm In! ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #65
I would have simply left. LeftInTX Nov 2021 #50
They had prepaid for the room onenote Nov 2021 #53
I still would have left! LeftInTX Nov 2021 #55
Video LeftInTX Nov 2021 #56
wow... Danny Vyas can't keep his lies straight. thanks for posting this Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #63

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
18. Which was the Republican in this story? And it is breach of contract. Her free speech was not touchd
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 06:59 AM
Nov 2021

Her right to free speech was not infringed upon by the government. Or by the website. Or by the hotel.

Her contract was broken by the hotel for no good cause. In other words, her behaviour did not disturb other guests or damage the premises.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
26. So her free speech wasn't punished by an organ of the PTB?
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 08:55 AM
Nov 2021

She spoke out and was punished using what is essentially the government security force. But I guess my take on things differ from yours.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
28. The police probably got false claims by the hotel as to the cause. But they should not have been inv
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 08:57 AM
Nov 2021

The police should not have been involved, I think. But I'm not going to get that deep into looking into the precise details.

unblock

(52,317 posts)
6. Generally, businesses can refuse any particular customer
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 04:40 AM
Nov 2021

Provided it doesn't discriminate based on race, etc.

This may vary from state to state and there may be specific laws regarding lodging.

Of course, businesses usually only do this for really disruptive or violent customers....

My hunch is that the customer complained too often and the manager didn't want to deal with it so they just kicked them out. The bad review probably had nothing directly to do with it. Just makes a better headline, I guess.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
9. Ummm...
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 05:03 AM
Nov 2021
My hunch is that the customer complained too often and the manager didn't want to deal with it so they just kicked them out.

If you read the story, you'll find that the manager initially claimed the customer's objectionable behavior consisted in leaving a bad review without first reporting the problems to him so that he could correct them. Two months later, he changed the story to where she supposedly reported the problems too often. Do I smell the aroma of, shall we say, bovine manure about his claims?

unblock

(52,317 posts)
37. Exactly, lying one way or another
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:58 AM
Nov 2021

Hard to know which version is closer to the truth. But to me, the second version is more plausible. Customer is a hassle to deal with, always making me work work work , screw it I'll just kick em out. Then lie, gosh, I just had no idea there was anything wrong I would have gladly fixed the problem but they never called not even once!

Hmm, if they never complained, they wouldn't have been on your radar screen to check for bad reviews. And a bad review probably wouldn't have pissed you off enough to kick them out.

Nah, I think the customer called and complained a few times during the managers favorite tv show or whatever and They wanted to get rid of them but they didn't think the truth looked good so they lied to say gosh, no, I'm not lazy and nothing wrong with this place that can't be fixed

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
43. Many hotels, restaurants etc respond to reviews - most often to say Thank you
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:21 AM
Nov 2021

I have seen polite push back from them on bad reviews as well. I wonder if the "owner" of the place being rated gets an alert when they get a review.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
17. Businesses can choose to not do business w someone if it is not based on race, religion, etc
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 06:29 AM
Nov 2021

But I think she would have a case that an agreement to house her for the night is a contract. And that a bad review does not rise to the level of behaviour breaking the contract.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
25. Georgia law
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 08:43 AM
Nov 2021
Georgia has a special law requiring sufficient notice to hotel guests before kicking them out, which can be no shorter than the time for which they’ve already paid. However, there is an exception to the law allowing hotels to expel a guest for “cause, such as failure to pay sums due, failure to abide by rules of occupancy, failure to have or maintain reservations, or other action by a guest.”

That “other action by a guest” is the catch. Because it’s so vague, a guest can be kicked out for any reason, including a negative review.


https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/hotel-calls-police-grandma-bad-review/85-377e243e-f05c-46e9-85f7-8a0748c7b71d

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
61. It's unethical. But I don't see why it would be illegal
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:28 AM
Nov 2021

In all 50 states, a hotel can terminate the stay at any time. For almost any reasons. (except things like age, sex, race etc)

And that's just it. There is no law that says the hotel can't do this.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
4. Hope the grandmother and girl got another room for the night
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 04:31 AM
Nov 2021

Wait until you you get home before posting any reviews online, I guess.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
30. Nah, their online service rebated the cost of the first motel
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:05 AM
Nov 2021

Apparently, the cop helped them find other lodging. All I meant was that I hoped the grandmother and girl were safe for the night.

Happy Thanksgiving, debot.

Response to PJMcK (Reply #30)

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
40. Hotels.com and Expedia usually come through
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:04 AM
Nov 2021

This story stinks from top to bottom. I speculate that the grandmother MAY have been a bit Karen-ish with the motel manager but his actions in calling law enforcement were indefensible.

Regardless, the online services almost always come through. We've had several run-ins with hotels and the online service always credited our account (eventually).

I guess the cheap prices we get online have a cost after all.

iemanja

(53,066 posts)
57. Maybe the manager was the Karen?
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 01:42 AM
Nov 2021

Everything points to his being an ahole. Why does everyone assume the woman is lying?

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
59. She was just responding to Hotel.com asking how her fucking room was.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:10 AM
Nov 2021

The hotel manager is a piece of shit.

This automatically labeling women as Karen’s for having an opinion is absurd. Women aren’t some collective herd of hysteria.




PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
64. There was more to the story
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:56 AM
Nov 2021

The grandmother is said to have made multiple rude calls to the manager which is probably what (unreasonably) set him off.

Who knows? We weren't there. However, I wasn't implying that the grandmother was immediately at fault, simply that we don't know the totality of the story. I'm sorry if that was unclear.

Happy Thanksgiving, Mrs.Coffee.

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
5. If that picture was the hotel
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 04:39 AM
Nov 2021

it looks awful. The hotel did not refund the money but Hotels.com did because of the media attention.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. :) Maybe a wise decision. Although there's nothing in the story
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:11 PM
Nov 2021

to suggest the room the child was tossed out of wasn't on the ground floor, best to not take chances.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
14. A best practice would probably be . . .
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 05:17 AM
Nov 2021

. . . to wait until after you've checked out of a hotel before leaving a negative review.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
19. Agreed
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 07:00 AM
Nov 2021

Anything before that you bring to the attention of the front desk and give them a chance to fix it. Nevertheless the action by a inn keeper was inappropriate and the franchise should pull their association with this owner immediately.

captain queeg

(10,242 posts)
22. I don't see how the hotel could do that without refunding her money
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 07:59 AM
Nov 2021

Assuming she’d already paid for the night. I’ve seen much worse reviews given on those sites. I don’t always read them and to tell the truth if there are not many one star reviews I tend to ignore them, some people just are never satisfied. A three would make me likely to believe whatever is said. That reminds me, I have to go back and review my last hotel stay. The place was fine, but they charged a $100 safety deposit. A lot of places do. But I don’t think they’ve run my card in advance before, it’s just in case so this place did charge me and when I left the guy went up to check the room came back and said it was fine and I’d see a refund in 2-3 days. Just have never seen that before so I have to check my CC and make sure I got it (he didn’t give me anything in writing). I checked and did get the refund

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
34. Take it from me...
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:20 AM
Nov 2021

All you need is a name suggesting that you are anything other than Wonder Bread to get the bum rush.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
54. Her name is Susan Leger
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 12:17 AM
Nov 2021

Seems pretty white bread to me

And the manager’s name is Danny Vyas. Pictures at post 44

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
58. I was speaking from personal experience.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:29 AM
Nov 2021

Not about this specific case.

I've run into the name ism my entire life. The only amusing part about it is when the perps see I'm not what they thought I was based on a name. A gift from my parents.

Okay, so this case was sexism. Just another ism.

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
31. Pro tip: Yelp them from space.
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:08 AM
Nov 2021

Especially, the proud patriot veteran owned small town variety.

I don't let the rating services off the hook. If they were sincere about improving things. They would all have a division dedicated to following up poor reviews. (I'm not sure I consider a 3 out of 5 as a poor review as it is above average.)

After the issues in the review are either confirmed or corrected. The review should be left as is or updated. But, that would involve some expense and effort on the part of the rating companies. Who survive on all of the free content and no effort. So, it will never happen.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
33. Yes, Yelp them from Space. . . and include photos, if you can so it reinforces the claim.
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:20 AM
Nov 2021

.

We one stayed at a GA chain motor lodge that had a 5-star AAA rating.

The place was a freakin' roach motel with sticky bedspreads, moldy bathrooms, and wasn't properly cleaned.

Then, they advertised a 'Continental Breakfast.' Ir was a 2' square table with a Mr. Coffee coffee maker with burnt coffee and a box of generic doughnuts.


We called AAA and that 5-star was pulled.

.

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
36. Photos are a terrific suggestion.
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 09:47 AM
Nov 2021

It allows the establishment to post a rebuttal on these unmoderated rating sites. Which accomplishes many things, including that they listen and respond to critics.

Because, sometimes you've just got to say something!

Haha! Continental Breakfast! That's a good one.

My worst experience involved a stay after recent flooding (the high water mark recorded on the walls) and having to rest my feet on my shoes until I swung my legs up onto the mattress.

Moving was not an option as it was a contract gig.

I forgave them because the fried catfish dinner was a nice touch.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
39. Oh hell no. But it looks like the motel sealed their own fate with this one
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:03 AM
Nov 2021

Their thin skinned management and shitty service is now a national story. In a small country town like Helen, you definitely can't afford that type of attention.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
45. Is That 2nd Pic The Room?
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:43 AM
Nov 2021

If so, the place looks like a dump.
I've stayed in Red Roof Inns that look like the Waldorf, compared to that.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
47. Leaning Your Way
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 04:26 PM
Nov 2021

Looks like no sheets or blankets either.
The outside shot doesn't match up with the 1972 Soviet hotel look in that picture.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
65. I'm In!
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:07 AM
Nov 2021

As in my reply to another, the exterior shot doesn't match the interior shot.
That picture looks like a hotel in Moscow in 1972.

LeftInTX

(25,548 posts)
55. I still would have left!
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 12:22 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Thu Nov 25, 2021, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)

IF the room looked like that.

However I found actual images at Trip Advisor.

They did not look like that

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