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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe Attacked Cops At The Capitol Riot. Then He Went To Air Force Basic Training.
Aiden Bilyard, who was known to online sleuths as #HarvardSweats, smashed out a window at the Capitol and attacked law enforcement.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aiden-bilyard-capitol-riot-air-force_n_619d3479e4b044a1cc0dc38c
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Shellback Squid
(9,030 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)ProfessorGAC
(68,260 posts)He was kicked out after this.
Silly euphemism.
Haggard Celine
(16,962 posts)Maybe it was mutually agreed upon after they told him that he was going to the brig if he didn't get the fuck off their base.
Mickju
(1,811 posts)Rebl2
(14,306 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,718 posts)He was lucky he wasn't charged by the USAF, but I wish he had been.
Talitha
(7,245 posts)Say it like it is, M$M !!!
taxi
(1,899 posts)One would get Separated under Honorable or Other Than Honorable conditions; Separated with a BCD (bad conduct discharge), Separated for immediate reenlistment, or whatever else.
A different question is, under what conditions was he Separated from the USAF upon their learning of his involvement on and before Jan 6? Was it Honorable, Other Than Honorable, BCD, or something else?
Angleae
(4,601 posts)A special discharge that can only be given out in a members first 6 months. It's basically a nullification. For all practical purposes, he was never in the military.
taxi
(1,899 posts)jmowreader
(51,103 posts)mercuryblues
(14,767 posts)That's what my daughter calls it. Actually, her exact quote is...
If you want to get kicked out, come see me. I can make that happen. If you don't want to be kicked out, straighten up as of now. I can still kick you out.
keithbvadu2
(38,993 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Perhaps you should do some research on where the January 6 traitors came from.
NY, CA, OH, PA, and on and on.
I think only 5 states were not represented in the insurrection. NC was surpassed by northeast and Midwest states.
ms liberty
(9,511 posts)Cary is a very upscale community that has been popular with the professionals working in Raleigh, Durham and Research Triangle Park, for like more than 30/40 years. A lot of transplants, from all over the place. My MIL says it was a nice small town when she lived there about 1970. My husband's family is from Durham, and we still have family in the area. One of my husband's uncles lived in Cary until his death last year from cancer.
And I would add that NC is a purple state. Our current Gov is a Dem.
Swede
(34,000 posts)Now your life is in ruins.
Justice matters.
(7,302 posts)Demovictory9
(33,143 posts)bucolic_frolic
(45,685 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,185 posts)realizing that someone like that who did what he did is now part of our national military?
Should I be 'resting comfortably" knowing someone like that would 'be on guard?"
Really drives home the same concerns of our local and state police forces. Just who ARE they protecting?
I know that there would be a whole bunch of people pointing out that the "bad cops" are in the minority - but, what if you happen to be in a situation with one from 'the minority?".......... (you can take it from there........)
George II
(67,782 posts)Was he dishonorably discharged?
DallasNE
(7,504 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,197 posts)without a guilty verdict in a court-martial trial.
If he was still in basic, he would have served less than 180 days. He could be simply administratively separated from the USAF.
Of course, they could have threatened to bring charges against him if he did not agree to an administrative separation.
Whatever the circumstances, looks like Harvard is going to be doing some time behind bars.
Captain Zero
(7,280 posts)I hope he got one for his sedition. I knew a special needs guy who got one about 3 months in when they figured out he would go awol when he pleased, and that he really was functionally illiterate. It was some years ago. Took them a while but they figured it out. He was very verbal and used SAT vocab words at times when speaking. There really are people like that among us. Funnier still was some years later he talked himself into about 6 months of services from the VA, for which, of course, he was not eligible. Haha.
Took them a while to figure that out too.
And years afterward when I knew him he was still really sore about not being able to use HIS VA benefits because, dammit, he had been in the army!
DallasNE
(7,504 posts)I was pretty sure that an Article 15 did not carry a discharge option. But could there be an administrative discharge that was less than a judicial bad conduct discharge? The answer is yes.
A general discharge may or may not mean that the service member did something wrong. It is not punitive but does mean that some particular condition or circumstance warranted the members separation from the military.
This would mean that he has a less than honorable discharge, I believe.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)When I completed my 2 years of Army service during the Vietnam era, the corporation I worked for wanted a copy of my DD214 showing I had an honorable discharge. Boss told me a general was a definite no-go for his company.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)It amazes me how many people speak of military discharges with NO idea how many there are and how they are given.
jmowreader
(51,103 posts)Unless a trainee does something like try to shoot his drill sergeant, the Army really likes using ELS to get rid of their problem children, because it's so quick to do - fill out one form and collect the soldier's uniforms, and they're gone. The Air Force almost certainly has the same thing.
Given that, you have GOT to be a special kind of stupid to try hiding after participating in an insurrection against the government by joining the Air Force.
marble falls
(60,078 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,734 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Looks like he never even made it out of Basic, the loser.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,082 posts)Some might get the option of the charges being dropped if they enlisted.
I hope they don't do that anymore.