As controversy over his enrollment swirls, ASU says Kyle Rittenhouse is not currently a student

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

PHOENIX — Kyle Rittenhouse is not currently an Arizona State University student, the university confirmed Monday.

The 18-year-old, who was recently acquitted by a Wisconsin jury of all charges in his shooting and killing of two men and wounding of a third in the aftermath of Kenosha protests, was taking online classes at ASU, he said during his testimony.

In recent media interviews, he said he wants to study on campus at ASU.

After Rittenhouse said on the witness stand on Nov. 10 that he was a college student at ASU, the university confirmed he enrolled as a non-degree-seeking online student for the session that started in mid-October, although he hadn't gone through the admissions process and wasn't enrolled in the nursing school. But according to the university, he’s not a student anymore.

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[vlyons]

1. I disagree with keeping him out of college

A college education has a liberalizing influence. Liberal as in open his mind and expose him to the liberal ideas of the Age of Enlightenment. Expose him to college level history and literature. Just because he's a creep now doesn't mean that he will always stay a creep. Some people do change for the better.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. So, a fake registration for a get-out-of-jail card

He was disqualified by the Marines.

He dropped out of high school. He is not a serious student.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. That's what this was

Wow, I am sure his lawyers told him to do this online so he could say that on the stand.

Just another low character con willing to lie.

[Hortensis]

4. It's possible to wish him ill without claiming to know

what none who aren't close to him can (and likely not them either). I'd think least of all those who choose to view him as a two-dimensional black cutout.

Seems to me that adults who refuse to see him as the screwed-up, unformed adolescent that he is actually see him as more than he is, judging him at their own level.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. You are free to believe what you want about him. And free to present evidence he IS a serious studen

Go ahead. Present your evidence that he is a serious student. Make your case.

The evidence that he is not a serious student may not be enough to convict him in a criminal court of "not being a serious student", but is enough to find him "not a serious student" by civil court rules.

Sure, not beyond a shadow of a doubt.

But there is definitely a preponderance of evidence that he is not a serious student.

[Hortensis]

7. That is not something I could possibly know. Nor you.

But more to the point, he's not someone's father or grandfather. He's an adolescent. His brain will spend the next several years developing before he is able to function as an adult.

There should hopefully be a huge difference in insight and judgement between the two stages of life, with far greater understanding, and ideally even a touch of wisdom, gained with age. If there wasn't, that would have to be on the older person.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Your "know" would be criminal justice standard. However, we can figure out what is likely, what is a

... what is a good bet.

Sure, he's an adolescent, operating as a vigilante.

Beware the tyranny of binary thinking. Just because we can't know 100% doesn't mean we can't make judgements and bets and informed speculation, all of which would be in the range of 51% to 99%.

Binary discrimination applies to things like "innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law". That is either 100% or 0%. There a binary mode serves a very useful purpose for society.

But if I were to bet on Rittenhouse being a serious student I would bet against him. Not because I'm 100% sure, but because I'm more likely to be right than wrong.

[Hortensis]

11. :) Black and white are the classic binary. Good and bad.

People like me and people like them. Kyle and "antifa." Me and Kyle.

You're right, of course, that "binary" is simpled down. To simpleton reaction. Can't call it thinking.

“In fact, resist blaming any one individual or group of individuals. Because the problem is that when we identify the bad guy, we are done thinking. And it’s almost always more complicated than that. It’s almost always about multiple interacting causes—a system. If you really want to change the world, you have to understand how it actually works and forget about punching anyone in the face.” Hans Rosling

Many seem to be so eager to see Kyle punched in the face that they have turned the huge historic events his incident was part of into "me and Kyle's face." And to my mind greatly diminish everything in the process.

[gab13by13]

14. Send that Hans Rosling quote to the families of the 2 human beings

that Rittenhouse killed.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Rittenhouse did not get created by a vacuum. He pulled the trigger, but there are deeper roots. . nt

[gab13by13]

21. It isn't rocket science,

A big clue is his mother drove him to Kenosha. I live among them, I have come to understand that the dominant issue with them is fear. Many in my small rural community keep loaded guns in their houses, I don't even lock my doors.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Well getting a key fact right isn't always rocket science either

Rittenhouse drove himself to Kenosha. His mother drove him back.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Rosling quote is very good. . . . nt

[gab13by13]

13. I agree with every bit of your post except 1 item,

calling him a vigilante gives vigilantes a bad name. Usually, vigilantes seek to enact justice, bypassing law enforcement, not always. Rittenhouse was just a thug looking for trouble and ended up being a killer.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Vigilantes deserve NO respect. . . . nt

[LiberatedUSA]

8. Was dropping out a choice?

If it was, that would support that he is not a serious student. Or was it forced on him due to the entire legal and detainment process?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. He dropped out before he killed. . . . nt

[LiberatedUSA]

12. Well...then that answers that. N/t

[Hortensis]

19. Long before. Fascistic Governor Rick Scott would strongly agree that

only "serious students" (and wealthy ones) should have a right to go on to college. He's further indicated though that, as far as state colleges were concerned, that would only apply to students "seriously" interested in coursework that prepared them for jobs in local industries.

There's no justification for the deaths Rittenhouse caused. But he was found innocent of all charges by a jury of his peers. The end, at least until the federal trial.

I find it shocking that some on a forum for liberal Democrats would ignore the court's decision and deny him the right to continue his education if they could, and no doubt more. That's not just antithetical to both liberalism and to the principles our democracy and our party stand for. It's an erasure of what is supposed to be a huge difference between those who come to this forum and the unprincipled trumpist mob on the right. They'd feel exactly the same if the factions involved were reversed.

As for those who do, fortunately the rights of individuals are usually protected from the malice of others. It's when that's not sufficient, when ill will triumphs over rights, that great wrong occurs, as it did when Rittenhouse's ill will toward others prevailed.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. +1. But Rittenhouse's online registration at ASU was just for show. He wasn't prevented. . . nt

[Hortensis]

24. Very possible. Things changed between signing up

and withdrawing, though, and sounds like his present is full of dangerous hazards and horrible influences, especially the vicious RWers exploiting him for political purposes and others making money off him, or trying to. I don't know which would be worse -- they're virtually destroying him or his thriving among them. Hopefully his mother can do better. She apparently also has two other teens to get through this.

Oh, well. Makes me so grateful for our grandchildren, and their parents. Thinking about them is therapy.

[Thomas Hurt]

5. Why join the military or get a degree in any thing, when you can sell out to Fox...

and the Pig for patronage and fame. Good luck with that you murdering twit.

[underpants]

18. FYI - my dog could get accepted at ASU

88% acceptance rate.

They disinvited Obama to speak at their commencement in 2009.

[pinkstarburst]

20. Education is a good thing.

This is an 18 year old who has quite a few more years before his brain will be fully developed. Everyone who decided to show up to that riot did a dumb thing that night, and the ones who showed up with guns even dumber. Four years of higher learning would be a good thing.