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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:10 PM Nov 2021

Chris Cuomo, a Reminder that Both Sides is B.S.

Chris Cuomo is suspended indefinitely from CNN for abusing his position to help his brother against victims of sexual harassment. I think this is appropriate as sad as it makes me.

Until Faux News suspends Tucker Carlson, I will add this comparison to the list of many things that explain why Both Sidesisms are really a bunch of Bull Shit!

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Chris Cuomo, a Reminder that Both Sides is B.S. (Original Post) berni_mccoy Nov 2021 OP
So unethical behavior is okay because Fox? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #1
Did you even read what I wrote? berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #2
Not at all what the OP says. MontanaMama Nov 2021 #7
Dude! Reading comprehension... Caliman73 Dec 2021 #35
When did Tucker help his brother avoid kelly1mm Nov 2021 #3
Ummm Tucker was directly implicated in a sexual harassment case berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #4
Ummm is there ANYTHING in your OP that kelly1mm Nov 2021 #5
Did you understand the OP? berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #11
Apparently MANY readers of your OP are not sure the point you were trying to make. Maybe kelly1mm Nov 2021 #24
I had no problem understanding it kcr Dec 2021 #31
Ummm so was Chris Cuomo FBaggins Dec 2021 #33
Whooosh berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #34
There isn't anything left of the OP FBaggins Dec 2021 #37
There isn't anything left of your argument. But please berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #38
Tucker helps people die of Covid (spreading misinformation) Skittles Nov 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #20
People seem to have been confused by your post. Beartracks Nov 2021 #6
Exactly. Democrats hold their own accountable berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #9
Oh, good, Bettie Nov 2021 #10
He was prosecuted? I wasn't aware of any prosecution. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2021 #17
I find it foolish for us to insist Democrats to basically be perfect...it is why we lose. I remind Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #26
I agree with you Bettie Nov 2021 #27
I doubt that Cuomo's ratings come anywhere close to Tucker's Raine Nov 2021 #8
November 6th ratings Cuomo was his lowest ever for his show. Jon King Nov 2021 #23
👍 Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #12
Great. Now do Chris Hayes & the conflict of interest with his brother Luke. Budi Nov 2021 #13
Be interesting to see who CNN replaces Cuomo with. Budi Nov 2021 #14
Give Briana Keilar Traildogbob Nov 2021 #19
Well there's a good suggestion. Keilar is nobody's fool & she deserves a prime time spot. Budi Nov 2021 #21
Never afraid Traildogbob Dec 2021 #28
++++ 👍 Budi Dec 2021 #29
Betcha a Coke it'll be Jake Tapper hamsterjill Dec 2021 #30
Should it be? A voice for the Democratic Party? Caliman73 Dec 2021 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #16
No, we have standards. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #32
I agree. You are spot on. Gore1FL Nov 2021 #18
Neilsen ratings, Cuomo 684,000 total viewers, Tucker 3.49 million viewers. Jon King Nov 2021 #22
Tucker's show is rated much higher than anything Cuomo did Polybius Nov 2021 #25

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
35. Dude! Reading comprehension...
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:41 PM
Dec 2021

CNN SUPENDED Cuomo for unethical behavior.

Fox News HAS NOT suspended Tucker Carlson for unethical behavior.

The OP is clearly saying that "Both Sides" is bullshit using these two actions as comparison.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
5. Ummm is there ANYTHING in your OP that
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:19 PM
Nov 2021

References this allegation? And further, what does Cuomo abusing his position as a ‘journalist’ to help his brother have to do with allegations of sexual misconduct of a host?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
11. Did you understand the OP?
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:30 PM
Nov 2021

Because it sounds like you didn’t… the point is that this is another example how Democrats hold their own accountable when the right refuses to.

What’s going on with people here?

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
24. Apparently MANY readers of your OP are not sure the point you were trying to make. Maybe
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM
Nov 2021

it is a lack of clarity on your part rather than something 'wrong' with the readers.

FBaggins

(26,742 posts)
33. Ummm so was Chris Cuomo
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:24 PM
Dec 2021

Neither was fired because it was merely an allegation.

But CNN has enough evidence to determine that he acted unethically within the terms of his employment.

FBaggins

(26,742 posts)
37. There isn't anything left of the OP
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:57 PM
Dec 2021

You try to imply a double standard... but can't seem to articulate one that sticks. The thing that Cuomo is suspended for, Carlson isn't accused of... and the thing that Carlson is accused of (but not suspended) is similar to what Cuomo has also not been suspended for.

What you appear to be stuck with is an "I don't like one so he should be fired, but I do like the other so he should stay"... but that's not a defensible position.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
15. Tucker helps people die of Covid (spreading misinformation)
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 09:21 PM
Nov 2021

that is far more egregious behavior than what Cuomo did

Response to Skittles (Reply #15)

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
6. People seem to have been confused by your post.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:21 PM
Nov 2021

Democrats are held to account for potential ethics violations, while Republicans never are (not even for more serious allegations) -- and hence both sides are not the same.

At least, that was my read of it.

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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
9. Exactly. Democrats hold their own accountable
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:29 PM
Nov 2021

What is going on here that people aren’t reading the body of the post?

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
10. Oh, good,
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:30 PM
Nov 2021

I thought I was the only one who understood this.

I still want to know why Cuomo got prosecuted lickety split, but no one can ever, ever touch that orange creature for anything. WTF?

ETA: For the reactionary, I'm not saying Cuomo shouldn't be prosecuted, I'm saying that there is a serious double standard. Republican men get to do whatever they fucking please with no consequences in the vast majority of cases.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
26. I find it foolish for us to insist Democrats to basically be perfect...it is why we lose. I remind
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:32 PM
Nov 2021

folks that we lost Katie Hill's seat. Cuomo was trying to help his bother...so I don't think what CNN did was appropriate. I will add that I don't believe Cuomo should have resigned...it will only embolden the GOP to continue attacking our side. Also, name me one person who was ever prosecuted for sexual harassment...I can't think of any.It must be a special treat reserved for Democrats...I hope to God we keep the Governorship in New York and for those who think it would not be possible for a GOP to win. I say you are wrong. I grew up in that area. New York City is liberal but New York state not so much.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
23. November 6th ratings Cuomo was his lowest ever for his show.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:14 PM
Nov 2021

648,000 total viewers per show average and dropping. Cuomo had run his course anyway.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. Be interesting to see who CNN replaces Cuomo with.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 09:15 PM
Nov 2021

Betting it won't be a voice for the Democratic Party.

Traildogbob

(8,744 posts)
19. Give Briana Keilar
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 10:51 PM
Nov 2021

The Prime slot solo. Turn her lose. The morning slot is not the audience she deserves.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. Well there's a good suggestion. Keilar is nobody's fool & she deserves a prime time spot.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 10:59 PM
Nov 2021

She's about the only & truly fair journo I can think of.



hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
30. Betcha a Coke it'll be Jake Tapper
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:08 PM
Dec 2021

I can’t stand him. He’s not a very strong interviewer overall and he cannot come back quickly with retorts like Chris Cuomo can.

Tapper has been wanting the spot.

I wish they’d give it to Laura Coates.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
36. Should it be? A voice for the Democratic Party?
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

I would prefer that it was a journalist who reported on facts and gave any opinion based on evidence and not solely from a predetermined political viewpoint.

I say this because I understand that facts and evidence typically support a liberal point of view. You have to distort information to support a Conservative viewpoint. This is why Fox News viewers are consistently identified as the least informed consumers of media.

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
32. No, we have standards.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:18 PM
Dec 2021

They don't.

Their not having standards is not a great reason for us to not have standards, either.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
18. I agree. You are spot on.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 10:38 PM
Nov 2021

The consequences needed to happen. I applaud CNN for taking the action they took. The have always been and continue to be a far better organization than Fox.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
22. Neilsen ratings, Cuomo 684,000 total viewers, Tucker 3.49 million viewers.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:12 PM
Nov 2021

It is what it is, Cuomo was not a big factor for CNN, hence they took 'a stand'. So his replacement gets a 100000 less or more, makes zero difference to ATT's bottom line.

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