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sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM Nov 2021

Hatred.

It is a very strong word and should never be used here. However it is used a lot.

Disagreeing with ones political views is not hatred, it is disagreeing with a politicians views. Hatred is a vile word Simple as that. Done.



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Hatred. (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2021 OP
Times have changed friend canetoad Nov 2021 #1
People will act that way when they can be anonymous. Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #4
There is a degree of truth in what you say Mr.Bill canetoad Nov 2021 #8
Your last sentence says it very well. Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #10
How do you feel about the word despise?? Like in totally despise...... a kennedy Nov 2021 #2
Despise is a whole other word. sheshe2 Nov 2021 #5
Okay trying to find the answer, you are saying that a DUerr Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #24
Until Dubya, I really never hated politicians, or those of a party or belief. But - sadly - I now do NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #3
Sorry, guess I was not clear. sheshe2 Nov 2021 #6
Ah. Thx. I'd never come close to feeling negatively about a fellow DUer NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #9
Thanks, NHL. sheshe2 Nov 2021 #12
Link? Cite?? Please provide since this is Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #21
I'm old enough to have grown up Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #11
But using the word against a fellow DUer? sheshe2 Nov 2021 #14
Of course not. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #15
Link Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #22
No. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #23
Omg just like old times !!!!:) Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #25
Yes. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #26
So confused. Are you saying someone HERE said they Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #27
Lol sheshe2 Dec 2021 #29
Late there(?) Wherever. Get a good night's sleep:) Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #31
Seriously? In the time I've been here, I've seen posters call each other all manner of names. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #37
Wouldn't you agree that rejecting hate is ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #7
Calling out a DUer of 'hatred' is more than rejecting hate. sheshe2 Nov 2021 #16
I'm not disagreeing with you, and I'm not sure ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #17
Thanks, FC. sheshe2 Nov 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Nov 2021 #13
Makes zero sense. Please elaborate Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #19
No. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #20
?????? Since 2004 have never ever read a DUer Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #28
You are lucky sheshe2 Dec 2021 #32
Personally, I feel that there is too much parsing of individual words and not context. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #30
Like a zillion times better now! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #33
Nah, there's folks who legit hate on AOC, Bernie and other progressives Arazi Dec 2021 #34
Yup. Sometimes it's okay to hate on a Dem, other times absolutely not. Blind faith on them. nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #35
Hmm. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #36
Nah, its hate Arazi Dec 2021 #39
Expressing that some other person has a hatred for someone or something taxi Dec 2021 #38

canetoad

(17,161 posts)
1. Times have changed friend
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:12 PM
Nov 2021

The internet, the 'monetising' thereoff, has bred a language that exists almost entirely of superlatives.

There are no Likes or Recs in moderate language. Everything must be the most extreme evil, or good or hillarious - on we go.

Once, educated people thought twice about the precise meaning of the written words they used. Now, to grab your five seconds of internet attention, you must use words that are extreme. Otherwise no-one looks.

No-one looks.

Mr.Bill

(24,296 posts)
4. People will act that way when they can be anonymous.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 PM
Nov 2021

If your name address and phone number was under every post things on the internet would be a lot more civil. The rules we grew up with all relied on being able to identify who was speaking.

canetoad

(17,161 posts)
8. There is a degree of truth in what you say Mr.Bill
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM
Nov 2021

But I doubt by a long way, it is the definitive answer. If MY name, address, phone was under every post, I would call it doxxing. However, I try to be moderate in my comments.

The WWW unleashed a new social spectrum and we have not yet learned how to deal with it.

Mr.Bill

(24,296 posts)
10. Your last sentence says it very well.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:30 PM
Nov 2021

I have participitated in a car forum for about 15 years. It has a political section which has some of the most rabid right wing hatred you have ever read. A few times in my travels I have met up and had lunch or a few drinks with a handful of them. Without exception, they were very nice people and if politics doesn't come up you could call them friends. It's very strange. A lot of what they say on the internet is just posturing and bravado. If they spoke to people in person like they do on the internet, they would have been beaten to death decades ago.

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
5. Despise is a whole other word.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 PM
Nov 2021

A Duer accused of hatred is a whole new ball of wax.

I am talking about DU here.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Okay trying to find the answer, you are saying that a DUerr
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:10 AM
Dec 2021

Disagreed with someone and was labeled a hater?

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
3. Until Dubya, I really never hated politicians, or those of a party or belief. But - sadly - I now do
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:17 PM
Nov 2021

From Wikepedia

Hatred is a very angry emotional response to certain people or ideas.[1] Hatred is often associated with intense feelings of anger and disgust.

As an emotion, hatred can be short-lived or long-lasting.[2] It can be of low intensity - 'I hate broccoli' - or high intensity: 'I hate the whole world'.[3] In some cases, hatred can be a learned response from external influences, such as from being abused, misled, or manipulated. As a general rule, hatred is the deep psychological response to feeling trapped or being unable to understand certain sociological phenomena.

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Yep - works for me - applicable to my feelings toward TFG and his cult.

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
6. Sorry, guess I was not clear.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:22 PM
Nov 2021

Duers on DU are calling out others out for hatred for disagreeing with some politicians.

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
9. Ah. Thx. I'd never come close to feeling negatively about a fellow DUer
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM
Nov 2021

Though the gun stuff often makes me shake my head ..

Mr.Bill

(24,296 posts)
11. I'm old enough to have grown up
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:32 PM
Nov 2021

hating Nixon and Reagan. I won't even go into detail about how much. W Bush was just a clown compared to them. They were pure evil.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. So confused. Are you saying someone HERE said they
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM
Dec 2021

hated you or others because they disagreed? But you can't name names, didn't alert, and can't provide a link?

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
29. Lol
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:29 AM
Dec 2021

I can name or not. You can alert or not.

I served with you elsewhere. I saw how you responded.

Always thought you were Laura Petrie.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
37. Seriously? In the time I've been here, I've seen posters call each other all manner of names.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:19 AM
Dec 2021

“Troll” is tossed around, and directed at, even long time posters. I’ve seen people called sick, stupid, crazy, a Republican, you name it.

Hater seems almost mild. No idea what context in which this occurred since you’re being so secretive, but I’ve certainly seen worse.

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
16. Calling out a DUer of 'hatred' is more than rejecting hate.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:47 PM
Nov 2021

That makes them look bad and makes them look hateful and not accepting others views.

We can agree to disagree, name calling is unacceptable.

ForgedCrank

(1,782 posts)
17. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I'm not sure
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:56 PM
Nov 2021

how you came to that conclusion. My addition to the point is that simply not saying the word hate isn't quite enough, not hating is how you accomplish that in addition to not using that word (and many others).

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
30. Personally, I feel that there is too much parsing of individual words and not context.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:32 AM
Dec 2021

Poetic license makes people use words as they interpret their meanings.

I have hated things DUers have said to each other. Made up names for groups of people. Insulting words that minimize a person’s concerns. These are debate tactics that are used by people to make people feel crappy not uplifting.

Being a good debater should stick to context.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
34. Nah, there's folks who legit hate on AOC, Bernie and other progressives
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM
Dec 2021

Some of the commentary about Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib has been despicable.

If I had a nickle for every good DUer driven off or banned for their past progressive support ...

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
36. Hmm.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM
Dec 2021
Arazi

34. Nah, there's folks who legit hate on AOC, Bernie and other progressives
Some of the commentary about Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib has been despicable.


Okay, guess you never read the threads on watermelon and fried chicken threads on MLK day. Never read the posts saying blacks have Stockholm Syndrome.

Talk about despicable, they were reced to the top of the page.

As for the others, constructive criticism, not hate.



taxi

(1,896 posts)
38. Expressing that some other person has a hatred for someone or something
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 10:42 AM
Dec 2021

is not quite the same thing as hearing someone actively using the word to express a hatred. There is also the difference between knowing and not knowing the word may be hurtful to hear. Hearing someone expressing it takes something away from the person using it; a go back two spaces type of move.

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