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riversedge

(70,234 posts)
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:19 AM Dec 2021

Police say the 15 year old who killed 3 students and wounded 8 people at Oxford High School used a 9

I read that authorities are not allowed to question the boy without a parent present.




Police say the 15 year old who killed 3 students and wounded 8 people at Oxford High School used a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun that his father bought on Friday. Truly a Black Friday purchase. The sophomore is not speaking with authorities and his family is hiring an attorney.


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Police say the 15 year old who killed 3 students and wounded 8 people at Oxford High School used a 9 (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2021 OP
I suspect there will be 2 attorneys hired. One for the kid (unless public defender and 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #1
Nah. No one will charge the father with anything. Leaving deadly weapons lying around Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #5
Not enough interest here to get that enacted. Kaleva Dec 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #11
No attorney will represent both the kid and the dad. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #22
What went wrong in that kid's life? vlyons Dec 2021 #2
Or . . . gratuitous Dec 2021 #13
Either bullying or girl rejection. 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #24
And he bragged about it on Instagram days before. Croney Dec 2021 #3
some did malaise Dec 2021 #4
Today my Republican friends will say now the doc03 Dec 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #12
I own 4 long guns and 6 handguns myself. I have never doc03 Dec 2021 #17
I have never understood the "single issue" voter, especially about guns. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #20
The only Americans who would would oppose RESPONSIBLE firearms ownership.. Volaris Dec 2021 #26
Why isn't he arrested? Something with Kyle! Why is the Enforcers not enforcing? MagickMuffin Dec 2021 #7
This!👆 SheltieLover Dec 2021 #9
He was arrested. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #14
Uhhh....he was. BradAllison Dec 2021 #15
He was arrested in the school. H2O Man Dec 2021 #16
Thank your the informative response, I appreciate it MagickMuffin Dec 2021 #19
Sure thing. H2O Man Dec 2021 #27
I like what I've seen of Gov. Whitmer MagickMuffin Dec 2021 #29
4 dead now, a 17 yo just died 90 minutes ago, and 2 more are still in extremely critical condition Celerity Dec 2021 #18
That's so sad mvd Dec 2021 #23
Oh, no! H2O Man Dec 2021 #28
Sadly, it's four people now. nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #25

3Hotdogs

(12,382 posts)
1. I suspect there will be 2 attorneys hired. One for the kid (unless public defender and
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:26 AM
Dec 2021

another for the parents (father).


And yes, the did doesn't have to speak a word to any cop about anything --- 5th Amendment.


Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
5. Nah. No one will charge the father with anything. Leaving deadly weapons lying around
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:55 AM
Dec 2021

for your toddlers or lunatic children to play with is a republiQan family value. One that is espoused by some of our own gun humpers here!

God forbid we should require that all those "responsible gun owners" actually take responsibility.

Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
21. No attorney will represent both the kid and the dad.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:36 PM
Dec 2021

Kid needs his attorney. And he should keep his mouth shut.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #21)

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. What went wrong in that kid's life?
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:32 AM
Dec 2021

Was he raised in a barn? Did his parents neglect to socialize him?

And why was the gun not secured in a locked gun case?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Or . . .
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 PM
Dec 2021

Has the kid spent his entire life with his country at war in far-flung countries around the world, carrying out the dictum that might makes right?

Croney

(4,661 posts)
3. And he bragged about it on Instagram days before.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:35 AM
Dec 2021

Facebook posts show screenshots of his page. Maybe if some kid had showed a parent...

malaise

(269,004 posts)
4. some did
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 08:38 AM
Dec 2021

I read that one mother said her son and others stayed home because there was fear of trouble

doc03

(35,338 posts)
6. Today my Republican friends will say now the
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 09:10 AM
Dec 2021

Democrats will want to take our guns. They say the same thing every time. I will hear guns don't kill people people do. Thoughts and prayers.

Response to doc03 (Reply #6)

doc03

(35,338 posts)
17. I own 4 long guns and 6 handguns myself. I have never
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 01:34 PM
Dec 2021

had a desire to own an AR there is no reason a civilian should have one. I would like to see them removed from the market and magazines for all guns except a .22 rimfire be limited to 10 rounds. I have a Springfield semi-auto 40 cal. that has a 16 round magazine I only load 10 rounds even when shooting target.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
20. I have never understood the "single issue" voter, especially about guns.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 01:51 PM
Dec 2021

I say this as someone who owns firearms. While I am bothered by the rhetoric from other liberals, I have never and would never vote for a Republican "just because" Democrats are less likely to support ownership of firearms. I live in California for goodness sakes, we have restrictions on firearms, accessories, waiting periods for every single purchase and ammunition, restrictions on magazine capacity, and limits on the number of firearms one can purchase during a given time period. I would NEVER move to a state run by Republicans because I enjoy living in a society that values the wellbeing of people and delivers services to the most vulnerable among us more than I need to have a bunch of guns with 30 round magazines and folding stocks etc...

Sorry to say and I mean no offense to you or your relatives, but your D relatives who hold their nose and vote Republican just because of guns, are seriously confused.

We do need a different approach though. We need to push for root cause mitigation and public safety rather than focusing on the inherent evil of guns.

I hate the phrase, "Guns don't kill people. People...." Yes, guns are inanimate objects and require an operator, however they are a preferred tool for killing because of their power and lethality. Guns help people kill people, a lot. We need to work on all solutions to the problem of killing, including taking a look at how easy it is to get access to a gun.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
26. The only Americans who would would oppose RESPONSIBLE firearms ownership..
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:27 PM
Dec 2021

Are the IRRESPONSIBLE ones.

Hows that for a talking point?

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
7. Why isn't he arrested? Something with Kyle! Why is the Enforcers not enforcing?
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 10:01 AM
Dec 2021

They know who he is, they know he killed and wounded children.


So, WHY THE FOOK ISN'T HE CHARGED AND ARRESTED?

WHY IS HIS PARENTS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT HIM?


Enforcers do your job and arrest the Child KILLER!





Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #7)

H2O Man

(73,552 posts)
16. He was arrested in the school.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 PM
Dec 2021

State law mandates that because he is a minor, his parents have to give police permission to talk to him. Reportedly, he went silent as soon as the officers caught him in the school, and when contacted, the parents said they would not allow police to interrogate him until he had a lawyer. Though this is frustrating for those who wonder why he did this, the parents do have that right. Plus, he is caught, and being held, and will be convicted based upon the evidence already known ....... the school, for example, has cameras.

It actually may be better, in a strange sense, that "why" he did this is not reported at this time. That reduces the likelihood of aother unstable teen with access to weapons not engage in a copy-cat shooting.

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
19. Thank your the informative response, I appreciate it
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 01:46 PM
Dec 2021


I guess everything I've seen has been the Enforcers had a suspect, but not that he had been arrested.


H2O Man

(73,552 posts)
27. Sure thing.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:30 PM
Dec 2021

Information comes out in splatters, it seems to me. Besides walking my son's dog on our daily adventures, I'm listening to the Trump case in yesterday's circuit court hearing. Tonight, I hope to listen to today's Supreme Court hearing.

Maybe it's just because I'm getting old, but things seem to be moving faster and slower at the same time these days.

I was very impressed seeing Governor Gretchen Whitmer going to the community that suffered this horror yesterday. I think that she is one of the best candidates for future national office. What do you think of her?

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
29. I like what I've seen of Gov. Whitmer
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:17 PM
Dec 2021


She is gaining valuable experience running a state government. Plus she is hitting a nerve with the white supremacy party. So, I hope she stays safe from those who's only intention in life is to cause harm.

I wish she was my Governor. I'm stuck with good ol boy Greg Abbott who doesn't give two craps about running our state. I'm hoping we don't freeze again this winter. Powerless in February for 3 days in subfreezing weather. Now I know that is probably not that big a deal to people who live up north, but this was not fun for me. I didn't even want to go outside to enjoy the snow. We did have to venture out to charge our phones in the car. The seat warmer was a nice touch.


Enjoy your walks with the doggy!








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