Just as we thought - the Slobfather tested positive for Covid

[malaise]

three days before the first debate with Joe Biden according to a new book by Mark Meadows.
This monster has to go.

Per Morning Joe

More here
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/01/trump-tested-positive-covid-before-biden-debate-chief-staff-mark-meadows-book

Donald Trump tested positive for Covid-19 three days before his first debate against Joe Biden, the former president’s fourth and last chief of staff has revealed in a new book.

Former Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows gestures at a Make America Great Again event at Gastonia Municipal Airport on 21 October 2020.
Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to testify before Capitol attack committee

Mark Meadows also writes that though he knew each candidate was required “to test negative for the virus within seventy two hours of the start time … Nothing was going to stop [Trump] from going out there”.

Trump, Meadows says in the book, returned a negative result from a different test shortly after the positive.

Nonetheless, the stunning revelation of an unreported positive test follows a year of speculation about whether Trump, then 74 years old, had the potentially deadly virus when he faced Biden, 77, in Cleveland on 29 September – and what danger that might have presented.

[Casady1]

1. Lock him up

for attempted murder.

[malaise]

2. Precisely

Meadows also knew

[agingdem]

47. so he tested positive and then suddenly he didn't...

and within days he was sucking air at Walter Reed??.. about the second negative test..I say bullshit...everyone in the orange cretin's inner circle knew he was contagious..in fact, Hick, Meadows, Miller tested positive as did Trump's reptilian wife and son...and yet no one said anything...loathsome co-conspirators..all of them!..if Meadows think this revelation (more of a confirmation) will cleanse him of the Trump stink he deceiving himself as are all the Trump's enablers running for cover with their tell-all screeds...

[malaise]

51. Christie too

[Grasswire2]

76. Something's fishy here

Because he tested positive on 9/29, tested negative (allegedly) after that, but on 10/2 he was hospitalized with Covid.

That negative test is likely a LIE.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. I was going to say that . . . .

[ancianita]

42. Cite a law that says one can be arrested for knowingly spreading a virus.

We keep wanting the ol' lock 'em up without caring whether they broke a law or not.

There are no laws against evil intent and assholery or even scofflaw presidents.

[Crunchy Frog]

44. .

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-09-22/spreading-hiv-is-against-the-law-in-37-states-with-penalties-ranging-up-to-life-inprison

[ancianita]

58. Thanks. I forgot about HIV.

I hear and understand the spirit of your sentiment, but this example is a precedent, but there are no current corona- virus laws that apply. So far.

[captain queeg]

3. Here's hoping he gets a break through case

And spreads it to his followers. It just occurred to me, I wonder if mar-a-lago workers are required to wear masks or be vaccinated?

[malaise]

7. Right now I'll take any disease or any virus

Just rid our planet of this monster

[raccoon]

25. Please, please, Santa. Nt

[mitch96]

27. Yup, hope he gets it again, and again and again and again and again and again and again...

And after that may the flees of 1000 camels reside in his crotch...
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[PatSeg]

5. I suppose none of us are really surprised

[malaise]

9. Here's SkipFox's thread on this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214206419

[PatSeg]

19. Oh yes

With Trump, we pretty much always assumed he was lying and I do recall many having their doubts back then. Clearly, the man had no concern for how many people he could be harming, though perhaps on some level, he hoped that he might infect Biden with the virus. He certainly is low enough to do something like that.

[malaise]

21. I am convinced that he would have willingly spread it to

Joe Biden and anyone else in his entourage.
Seriously the Slobfather is the most evil human being in my lifetime

[PatSeg]

30. He pretty much sums up everything

I find detestable in people, all put together in one big, obscene package.

[PatSeg]

48. All the bits and pieces of people

I've known throughout my life, who I found despicable and immoral, all wrapped up in one. I feel like he is suppose to be some kind of mirror for us to acknowledge the many unresolved human failings that keep us from evolving.

[PatSeg]

52. Yes, not the future most of us anticipated

and in many ways, it could be worse.

[PatSeg]

54. The book sounds fascinating

And yes, if something works, they just keep doing it for decades.

[dutch777]

6. Slimeball in Chief not surprising. His enablers, all lacking spine and a moral compass. Shameful!

[brewens]

8. I was wrong about that. I was sure he only ever was tested the first time. I thought he didn't like

the swab up his nose and refused to do it again. Like you would expect a snotty little kid to do if no one could make him.

[Diamond_Dog]

11. I really wonder if they just "made that up" about him getting a second test.

[brewens]

14. I wouldn't think they would want to reveal he went to the debate knowing he was infected.

I told a buddy that if I got what was turning out to be a mild case, he was going to have to talk me out of going to a MAGA bar and knocking back a few! I know I wouldn't really do that, but it would be tempting.

[Mister Ed]

10. All through the debate, he kept bellowing in Biden's direction.

I've long suspected he was trying to infect Biden.

[malaise]

13. Down memory lane - note the 'maskless' assholes

[dalton99a]

15. +1

[leighbythesea2]

60. Wore

My "will you shut up man" tee today. Trump was reprehensible. We all suspected he was infected.

[malaise]

61. The shut up that shook the world

I'd love the Democratic Party to organize a national scream out at a precise time -"will you shut up man" and everyone would wear the Tee shirt.

[leighbythesea2]

66. That

Would be fun. Yes, absolutely.

[Grasswire2]

77. where did you get that tee shirt? nt

[leighbythesea2]

79. House of Swank

Am out running errands, but im pretty sure the brand.

[Irish_Dem]

45. I had the same thought at the time.

He gets infected, takes state of the art meds to protect himself.
Then deliberately infects Biden.

He is a ruthless sociopath and will stop at nothing for the sake of power and money.
It is naive not to consider that he did this on purpose.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. TFG did not care about anyone

Infecting Joe Biden was a goal for the first debate

[dalton99a]

16. POS tried to kill Biden.

[Botany]

38. +1

n/t

[Kid Berwyn]

17. A capacity for murder.

A real bastard, that rotter.

[malaise]

22. He did tell us that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and

get way with it.

[FalloutShelter]

26. Psychopath!

[taxi]

18. This study by Johns Hopkins on false negatives

makes taking a retest a logical choice to circumvent the system.

snip...
Using RT-PCR test results, along with reported time of exposure to the virus or time of onset of measurable symptoms—such as fever, cough and breathing problems—the researchers calculated the probability that someone infected with SARS-CoV-2 would have a negative test result when they had the viral infection

The researchers estimated that those tested with SARS-CoV-2 in the four days after infection were 67% more likely to test negative, even if they had the virus (CI, 27% to 94%). When the average patient began displaying symptoms of the virus, the false-negative rate was 38%.

https://www.clinicaloncology.com/COVID-19/Article/07-20/False-Negatives-Found-If-COVID-19-Testing-Done-Too-Soon/58781

So he chose the cowards way out. Suspecting he may be infected was not a factor in his decision. He had a good chance of testing negative based on the stats, and being what he is he acted as expected and passed the risk to others.

[ProfessorGAC]

67. That's Why In GLP...

...(Good Laboratory Practices) if an analyst gets contrary results, a minimum of one referee test is required.
For many applications, the test:retest protocol is much more robust.
But, one positive & one negative NEVER means negative, even if it was positive that was in error.
The doctors around TFG are just as horrible as he is.

[taxi]

71. Thanks for explaining how the system is designed to work.

Those under TFG were willing to forego GLP. It is possible they allowed as many tests as needed with the criteria being the first negative test is the valid one, any prior test a false positive. All his decisions are based on odds alone.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. I Can't Rule That Out

Which, of course, would violate the very purpose of GLP.
Another element of GLP is, not kidding, no pencils, no whiteout.
If you make an error, you cross it out, initial it, and make correction. All in pen.
I wouldn't doubt the existence of the "false positives" were expunged from the record.
Positive 1, positive 2, positive 3, negative. One positive, one negative; the other 2 never happened. Therefore it must be negative. After all it was the last test.
Of course the last test was negative. They quit testing when they got a negative.

[tanyev]

20. And his whole crew sitting out there in the audience with no masks on.

[barbtries]

23. "stunning revelation"?

this is trump we're talking about. it is not even news, let alone a "stunning revelation." Anyone who is "stunned" to learn that trump lied about his status and tried to infect the next president with a deadly virus, must be a member of the same media that is failing us so egregiously every single day.

i am simply beyond HORRIFIED to observe that there's a reporter or editor out there who does not already know that trump is an evil fuck for whom there is no low to which he would not stoop to preserve his own sick ass. HORRIFIED

[malaise]

24. You nailed it

[RobinA]

57. Just So

It would have been a "stunning revelation" if it turned out he ever once did the right and moral thing.

[femmedem]

28. If he'd had a mild case, I doubt they ever would have reported it.

I think they would have kept his Covid-positive test result secret forever--or at least until someone wrote about it in a all-tell memoir--if it hadn't become obvious that he was likely to be hospitalized.

[Goodheart]

29. And I don't believe the subsequent negative was genuine, either.

[zaj]

31. "but nothing was gonna stop him"

Cartoonishly stupid.
Cartoonishly toxic.
Cartoonishly abusive.

[Javaman]

32. he knew he was going to lose

he knew full well that he could potentially infect Biden

sounds like attempted murder to me.

yup, psychopath

[mountain grammy]

33. Hi Malaise.. how are all things COVID in Jamaica

I'm a bit worried about my cousin.. now nearly 80 years old and 80 pounds. She's anti medicine and definitely anti vax. Worked as an RN a lot of her life so I can understand how she came to many of her ideas, but she's definitely out there. I'm sure she stays home most of the time and always wears a mask but just wondered how high the infection rates are in the Long Bay area? Can't get any answers out of her.

Thanks for any info..

[malaise]

68. Hi there

Deaths are down but they are expecting an uptick in a few weeks.
The real problem here is that people have rejected vaccines in droves. The number of vaccines that expired and had to be thrown away is a public embarrassment.

Less than 20% of the population is vaccinated. I'd worry about anyone over a certain age in this mess.

On the other hand, people do wear masks but I am very worried about the likely spread over the holidays because tourism matters more than Jamaican citizens.
They are gradually reopening the schools.

[mountain grammy]

75. Thanks for the information..

So many unvaccinated.. how depressing. I am worried about her and know she won't get the vaccine. I'll just hope for the best.

Stay safe Malaise..

[imaginary girl]

34. I wondered about this

I wondered about this due to the timing of when he chose to go to the hospital. They were also quite evasive about the date of the first positive test.

[spanone]

35. He just released a reply calling it fake news.....well that settles it!!!!!!!!

[boston bean]

36. Yep. They all wanted to give it to Joe.

Lying mfers

[Rebl2]

37. I don't understand

why they allowed him to go on with the debate since the rules were they had to be tested the day of the debate also. He arrived so late to the debate there was no time for him to be tested? The debate should have been canceled or rescheduled.

[llmart]

39. And yet, who had Covid and who didn't?

Backfired on the orange anus mouth. Hope he has long haul after effects.

[Initech]

43. He is such a colossal piece of shit.

[malaise]

56. Way too kind

He's a fucking monster

[LaMouffette]

46. And "murder by Covid" would have been the perfect weapon for TFG to kill Joe. TFG would have had

plausible deniability—"He coulda got it from anybody! I barely came near the guy! Biden was just weak!"—and, per usual, TFG would have let someone (something: Covid) do his dirty work for him.

[Grasswire2]

59. Some undeniable evidence of Russia's puppetry of Trump would sure change the narrative about now.

Think back to how Trump looked in Helsinki.

I know that investigative journos have a lot on their plate.

But somewhere out there is evidence that would bring Americans to see him for what he is.

Monstrous mobster, assassin of America on behalf of Putin.

[malaise]

62. He is that evil

[malaise]

63. He is that evil

[UTUSN]

55. He's a *CRIMINAL* in all facets - EOM!

[malaise]

64. THIS

[ecstatic]

65. That alone should disqualify him from running in 2024

Setting aside his coup attempt and extortion of other countries, this guy was willing to infect an auditorium full of people with covid. He is so disgusting, but none of this is surprising. I figured this was the case back when it happened, but still.

[malaise]

70. The failed coup is just as bad

What a monster

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. I call bullshit!!!!! Release each test result!!!!!!!! Why

Believe meadows? I mean seriously he could say trump had covid or didn't have covid 1000 times if he wanted to. It gave Meadows a chance to throw in that thing about how he is so powerful and Almighty that he wanted to give his people the gift of seeing him at a debate which he probably thinks would help them.

Like I said many times a covid test result has nothing other than the date and positive or negative. It has nothing personal whatsoever on it.

Sorry Malaise - Boils my blood

[malaise]

73. A despicable human being

and that's mild

[malaise]

74. Michael Shear is on CHris Hayes

The Slobfather gave him Covid on AF1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. Yes... But still wonder why Meadows who defied subpoena

and is still in bed with Slobfather, would put something in his book that would make FG look so bad. Makes me think the real truth is something even worse?

And I bet the FG was gleeful as hell once he figured out that you could say you had it or you didn't and no one would ever know. Still think Malaria never had it

[gulliver]

80. Trump concealed the fact that he had the disease. That shows he knew what he did was wrong.