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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSCOTUS Barrett: Simply adopt the unwanted baby
Wow. "Just" carry the fetus to term. No concern for mother's health along the way or the power of maternal bonding with the baby she spends 9 months making. Just adopt. Solution.
The attorney in support of Roe had just got started when Clarence Thomas interrupts and goes down an unrelated path. Then all the anti-Roe justices starting piling on. The woman never got to deliver a linear argument. She sure is qualified to handle everything thrown at her. Then, at the end, Thomas said I know the concern is abortion (ya think????). She answers it is about liberty.
My body, my choice, baby (pun intended).
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)If it's threatens your life, oh well because Mississippi.
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Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)because of all the, mostly unvaxxed, pregnant women contracting Covid, from other people who refuse to mask or vax. Those ones are acceptable losses in the name of Freedumb.
leftieNanner
(15,110 posts)will be challenged as illegal abortions.
Women who went through the agony of losing a wanted child will be tormented again by being charged with feticide.
You watch.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)They will always be selective in whom they choose to punish for miscarriage. They place more value on maintaining the pandemic than they do on punishing women.
Lonestarblue
(9,998 posts)Of course, only certain women will be required to provide proof. And exactly how do you prove such a thing? Did you take too many Ibuprofen, have some wine, exercise too hard? Off to jail with you, were behind in our quota for shipping people to the private prisons.
And as for adoption, few racists (and we have a lot of them in this country) are willing to adopt anything but a perfect white baby, leaving all the poor minority women who did not want more children to struggle with feeding their children and sinking into ever greater poverty.
Perhaps most outrageous was Justice Roberts comment that 15 weeks should be plenty of time to get an abortion. He isnt a doctor, but he should know (but probably doesnt care) that tests performed at 20 weeks determine the viability of a pregnancy or the fetus. It is then that abnormalities appear. And the womans life can be threatened at any time throughout pregnancy. What about women who learn that they have aggressive cancer at week 21? Sorry, you cant have an abortion and you cant have chemo or well prosecute for for endangering a fetus. Try not to die before you birth the baby.
The Supreme Court and politicians need to stay out of medical decisions.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)
and I believe it still happens in El Salvador.
I wonder what the next thing the GOP will go after to keep the money flowing in after this one goes away will be.
leftieNanner
(15,110 posts)Doing away with contraception.
And Texas just passed a law to make it much more difficult to get a medication abortion.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Getting rid of abortion was fun and profitable (for them, at least) but I think theyll try to establish English as the official language and ban the government from printing things in any other language.
renate
(13,776 posts)I wish I could give this a zillion recs.
Initech
(100,079 posts)musette_sf
(10,202 posts)fixed it
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)[div
area51
(11,909 posts)are that the US has the most expensive healthcare in the world; and just who is going to pay for the hospital & doctor bills for these pregnancies, Amy Looney Barrett?
renate
(13,776 posts)How much does it cost these days? I've heard that it's multiple thousands.
And of course there's the cost of raising a child with disabilities that a woman would now have to carry to term.
That cost is a critical consideration of Roe v Wade being overturned is kind of horrific in what is supposed to be a great country, but here we are.
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dchill
(38,497 posts)BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)at significant risk to life or health, on an unwilling person. Pretty sure that's a feature not a bug, though.
mopinko
(70,112 posts)how close to the bottom of infant/maternal mortality are they?
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)Because being born and spending a few weeks or months of pain and misery in the world are so much more preferable to being snuffed in the womb.
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Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)A religious fanatic who espouses all the "right" RW causes. Good enough to get her a lifetime appointment by the most incompetent president the country has ever had the misfortune to elect.
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Colgate 64
(14,732 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)and she knew her days were numbered.
But her ego made her believe she was indispensable.
Marthe48
(16,963 posts)She saw the writing on the wall, and took the course she thought was the best course.
We have 3 unqualified, unfairly appointed people sitting on the S.C. Who of us realized, believed, that the right would break so many rules, shatter the U.S. Constitution, to impose their goddam rule on our country. I sure didn't.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)might replace her. But she decided to take the chance.
mahina
(17,660 posts)Attributing her decision making to ego is insulting. Please, lets not. Thank you for considering.
It could also have been that she thought she was beating the cancer. How human of her.
Mysterian
(4,587 posts)This we do know.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)She thought Obama wouldn't appoint anyone as good as she was -- not taking into account the fact that a future Republican President would replace her with a Republican on the far right. But Obama's appointments -- Elana Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor -- are solid progressives, and they're ALIVE.
Also, RBG was sure that abortion rights weren't threatened, and that was a gross miscalculation.
RBG: No, I think it's gotten about as conservative as it will get.
RBG: Who do you think President Obama could appoint at this very day, given the boundaries that we have? If I resign any time this year, he could not successfully appoint anyone I would like to see in the court. [The Senate Democrats] took off the filibuster for lower federal court appointments, but it remains for this court. So anybody who thinks that if I step down, Obama could appoint someone like me, they're misguided.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)They see law as only applying to the poor. They want to punish the poor for being poor. They are cruel. That's all I see in any GOP argument about anything.
moondust
(19,985 posts)Babies available! Now taking bids!
Hello Duggars?
Lost children of Francoism
Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)costs. How much would you like to contribute today? I'll be calling again tomorrow.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,004 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)When anti-choicers talk about alternatives to abortion, they only discuss adoption. They are appalled with women who get pregnant out of wedlock and then keep and raise the baby. If they really wanted to reduce abortions then they would also be talking about the expectant mother parenting the child.
But they don't want that. They want EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock to be given up for adoption. They want a return to the Baby Scoop Era.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)This, this, this.
The Baby Scoop era is a dark period of Women's history in America and Australia.
The Girls Who Went Away didn't choose anything. Their parents and others chose for them. Coerced, shamed, told they were "selfish" or "defective" if they wanted to keep their babies. The Right hates single mothers.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)I guess she's fine with all the babies with massive defects, whose short lives would be sheer misery. She is a goddamn fucking monster. A pox on all of those responsible for this sack of shit being on that court.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I know this doesn't impinge on the beautiful minds of those who deny women their bodily autonomy, but not every pregnancy has the plump, smiling, happy baby of the anti-abortion billboards. Some of those fetuses don't have a brain. Or have transposition of the great arteries? Or who otherwise fail to develop properly? The ones that risk the woman's life every day, every hour the pregnancy is prolonged?
Is there some secret line of people lining up to adopt severely handicapped or profoundly disabled newborns? Maybe we could redirect them to the thousands and thousands of already-born children in our foster care system? And leave women alone to live their lives without the snooping interference of ignorant god-botherers.
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Bettie
(16,110 posts)to carry babies for rich people.
Women are not incubators for the ruling class. We are human beings, with the right to make decisions for ourselves.
If we want to reproduce, we will choose to do so.
If we don't want to, no one should be able to force us to do so.
But, then, I forgot, she voluntarily gave up her agency to her "head", so a man does all that pesky thinking for her.
nvme
(860 posts)ENOUGH SAID
We need to protect the country from the whims of an ultra-conservative court.
Bush v Gore. Citizens United. Scuttling voting rights. Allowing Texas to empower vigilantes to police women's reproductive rights. Etc etc etc ad nauseum.
Now its just when not if.
sagetea
(1,368 posts)sigh...
My first husband kicked me in the stomach for eating (I was hungry) because I was getting fat....carrying his child. Over and over he kicked me with his steel toed boots. I was 4 1/2 mos. pregnant. Went into labor. EMT's pulled my son out (he was dead, of course). 1988 I wonder if anybody would have adopted my dead son?
Where was my 'liberty' Barrett?
sage
notinkansas
(1,096 posts)She's special that way.
mahina
(17,660 posts)Sending you aloha
I was also attacked by my ex when hapai as he tried to make me miscarry. I thought my ex was brutal.
He was afraid the baby would cost him money. I would never take one dime from him. And having a baby was his idea.
Now he wants to stay with me. No.
May we heal our hearts and fight for those who are living with these sorrows now.
✨✨✨♥️✨✨✨
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)(maybe victim) doesn't want him to be in her life, always fighting her over the baby?
What does ACB want to do about that?
The anti-choice justices have never thought through the first round of considerations. Or they just don't give a damn.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Lots of white babies.
Polybius
(15,421 posts)I just got home from work and didn't see it.
womanofthehills
(8,710 posts)when addicts are denied abortions.
Plus, all the life and death issues that can go with pregnancy.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)possibly unwanted children in a few years. Like we can stop gun violence for these kids now? Lord, wait 16 or so years.
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)that won't work except in an infinitesimally small number of cases.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Hope that makes it into the conversation. We can't afford to be a theocracy.
Marthe48
(16,963 posts)compassion, humanity, pragmatism, kindness and other postive human traits which would clue her in on how f'n stupid her comment is.
What a loser she is. She dimishishes the robe she wears, the bench she sits on, the halls of justice.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)She is absolutely unfit to sit on the court.