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It drives me crazy when the media refers to right wing extremists as conservatives! And this goes for the Supreme Court as well...
A conservative judge would uphold Roe v. Wade, because the decision has deemed that a woman's privacy and right to choose were constitutional.
Please, refer to religious zealots and QAnon cultists as Extremists. NOT conservatives. Obama was a conservative, Biden is a conservative...Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Paul Gosar, etc. are extremists. Giving them the correct appellation might help keep them out of power...
DeeNice
(575 posts)I totally agree.
Walleye
(31,025 posts)Liberals are wild sinners. One thing we do know is the conservatives dont care for conservation
Also, as Michael Nesmith might say: And I'll tell you something else too: the same thing goes for Christian!
So true. Republicans have become whack-job extremists, to the person.
andym
(5,443 posts)they want to regress to the culture and laws of an earlier time
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)And who wanted an election stolen by their fellow mostly WHITE HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS, overturned at ANY and ALL costs.
pandr32
(11,586 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Obama and Biden are in no way Conservatives. Moderate Liberals are about the furthest right they could be classified on the political spectrum.
DFW
(54,387 posts)The OP rejects those labels, mostly imposed upon us by the likes of William F. Buckley, etc. So do I.
Obama liked to think things out before acting, was somewhat risk-averse, and took a cautious approach to things. He definitely rejected, and still does, the NRAs extremely liberal attitude toward gun ownership. I agree with him that America should take an extremely conservative stance in how it permits people to own and use firearms.
But that is using the terms liberal and conservative as they are defined in English, my native language. In Republicanese and Foxese, they both mean something else entirely. I refuse to let speakers of Republicanese define what words mean in my language.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)The dictionary word of the individual attribute of "conservative" and "liberal" are not the same as what a Conservative or a Liberal are in political language.
They are not "Foxese" or "Republicanese" they are political philosophies that have a grounding over centuries.
When you spread a "liberal" amount of sunblock on your body is that Democratic or Republican policy plank?
When you are "conservative" about your bet on the Packers in next week's game is that informed by President Obama, or President Reagan.
It is silly to equate the vernacular and individual qualities of words when they also have specific meanings when used to describe political and social ideologies.
soldierant
(6,880 posts)to defferentiate economic positions. Authoritian and anti-Authoritarian are needed to differentiate that distinction. The Political Compass (dot org) lays this out very well. (My own scores are between negative 7 and negative 8 on both scales.)
It's when we try to include the Authoritarin vs. its opposite in the left-right scale that we get tangled up in our own definitions
soldierant
(6,880 posts)Yes. He really has their number.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)I like right-wing radical extremists or right wing Republican neofascists.
Harker
(14,018 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)It's way past time.
MLAA
(17,294 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)...to identify as "conservative." That's the real conservativism in the US. "Real" or "moderate" conservatives can go figure out a new name to call themselves. They willfully handed their own label over to the Ahabs.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,975 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Not that I was a regular Limbaugh listener - because I wasn't.
But I do recall him using "Republican" only occasionally, but "conservative" was frequently every other word on his show. Meanwhile "liberal" became a dirty-word moniker saved for whenever he criticized the Clintons, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi or whomever else he disliked at the moment.
I submit that Limbaugh's frequent use of the word "conservative" is the pattern they're following now. It prevents anyone from looking too closely at the crimes those people are committing because of Chump.
alwaysinasnit
(5,066 posts)gab13by13
(21,348 posts)was Teddy Roosevelt.
OMGWTF
(3,957 posts)instead of saying "privatize" say 'profitize'.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)with Goldwater's "extremism in defense of liberty" speech.
He at least had some semblance of respect for the idea that there was something out there to "conserve", albeit not really any kind of "environment" I can comprehend.
Whatever that insane coalition is doing now seems more akin to anarcho-capitalism fused with christo-fascism, and it certainly won't end well for any of us.
"Book of Eli / Mad Max --here we come!" --seems their rallying cry now.