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karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. CNN is speculating from the questions asked in oral arguments -- and having listened, many here were
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:41 PM
Dec 2021

equally pessimistic.

The focus of the media were three said to be in the middle - Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett. Now, even before things started, THAT made me pessimistic. Kavanaugh and Barrett in the middle??? The problem is that Thomas and Alito have long been on record as wanting a complete end of abortion.

I can see why they took up this specific law. From the CDC, 92.7% of all abortions happened before the 13th week in 2019. ( I can't figure out the direct link - go here https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/index.htm and then click on abortion, which is one of the categories under data and statistic references. ) It can not stand unless Roe vs Wade is overturned. Yet, they can argue that as long as there is a sufficient carve out to allow abortions if the baby is no viable or for the health or life of the woman at any point, this is not far from what happens now.

However, this is not Mississippi's only law - one like TX is 6 weeks. What scares me is that so many judges seemed to lean to the idea that the states should decide - which basically means that no federal law or overturning Roe vs Wade. It is hard to understand how, on an issue as fiery as this, that you can have completely different laws across the states. IMO, the most important thing to have given this right wing SC is that Roe vs Wade stays - even if the timeline changes in a minor way.

It is interesting that when Mississippi first brought the suit, they argued that it did not have to overturn Roe vs Wade. Yet, that is what their AG, who clerked for Thomas, basically argued when he spoke of teh lives lost.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. CNN does speculating and infotainment very well
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:26 PM
Dec 2021

as to journalism, well......not so much. But they do fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed so their paychecks keep rolling in....

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
11. unfortunately that is all cable news -- at least CNN and MSNBC aren't blatantly right leaning
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:42 PM
Dec 2021

As to the drug ads - I don't get why so many ads for prescription drugs are repeated so often as they are. especially as I would hope most people would take the advice of their doctor. Not to mention, they need to list all significant side affects.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. That's the nice version of what's to come.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
Dec 2021

🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
3. I'm wondering what their "reasoning" will be
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:23 PM
Dec 2021

The viability standard makes sense. What will they say about ending it? God? The fetus “feels pain”? We all know the real reason (keeping us barefoot and pregnant as God intended) but I want to hear their rationalization.

Shrek

(3,980 posts)
4. Kavanaugh gave it away during his line of questioning
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:34 PM
Dec 2021

With all the talk about the court being "scrupulously neutral."

They'll say it's not properly an issue for the court and should be left to the states to draw the lines.

 

wildheart

(62 posts)
7. They cut off the tip off a penis
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

on newborns. At least they did w my baby w no anesthesia. That tells me they are not all that concerned about "fetal pain". I'm so pissed about all of this. MY BODY!!! A woman, along w her DR should make these decisions, at ANY time during the pregnancy. Numerous reasons for terminating a pregnancy..and it is NONE of "your" business.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
13. We need
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 07:03 PM
Dec 2021

To make Republicans pay for this.
If overturning Roe isnt enough to piss you off what will?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. Beer-boy Brett was asking why scotus should be more qualified
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 10:32 PM
Dec 2021

in making decisions on abortion versus local legislatures. I screamed at my tv that they shouldn't, and legiatures shouldn't. It should be left to the woman and her doctor.

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