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Supreme Court's conservatives lean towards limiting abortion rights after dramatic oral arguments on Mississippi law banning abortions after 15 weeks
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[link:https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/politics/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-oral-arguments/index.html|
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I don't consider CNN as a reliable news source.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)equally pessimistic.
The focus of the media were three said to be in the middle - Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett. Now, even before things started, THAT made me pessimistic. Kavanaugh and Barrett in the middle??? The problem is that Thomas and Alito have long been on record as wanting a complete end of abortion.
I can see why they took up this specific law. From the CDC, 92.7% of all abortions happened before the 13th week in 2019. ( I can't figure out the direct link - go here https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/index.htm and then click on abortion, which is one of the categories under data and statistic references. ) It can not stand unless Roe vs Wade is overturned. Yet, they can argue that as long as there is a sufficient carve out to allow abortions if the baby is no viable or for the health or life of the woman at any point, this is not far from what happens now.
However, this is not Mississippi's only law - one like TX is 6 weeks. What scares me is that so many judges seemed to lean to the idea that the states should decide - which basically means that no federal law or overturning Roe vs Wade. It is hard to understand how, on an issue as fiery as this, that you can have completely different laws across the states. IMO, the most important thing to have given this right wing SC is that Roe vs Wade stays - even if the timeline changes in a minor way.
It is interesting that when Mississippi first brought the suit, they argued that it did not have to overturn Roe vs Wade. Yet, that is what their AG, who clerked for Thomas, basically argued when he spoke of teh lives lost.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)as to journalism, well......not so much. But they do fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed so their paychecks keep rolling in....
karynnj
(59,503 posts)As to the drug ads - I don't get why so many ads for prescription drugs are repeated so often as they are. especially as I would hope most people would take the advice of their doctor. Not to mention, they need to list all significant side affects.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)turn them off.
Budi
(15,325 posts)🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
Freddie
(9,267 posts)The viability standard makes sense. What will they say about ending it? God? The fetus feels pain? We all know the real reason (keeping us barefoot and pregnant as God intended) but I want to hear their rationalization.
Shrek
(3,980 posts)With all the talk about the court being "scrupulously neutral."
They'll say it's not properly an issue for the court and should be left to the states to draw the lines.
wildheart
(62 posts)on newborns. At least they did w my baby w no anesthesia. That tells me they are not all that concerned about "fetal pain". I'm so pissed about all of this. MY BODY!!! A woman, along w her DR should make these decisions, at ANY time during the pregnancy. Numerous reasons for terminating a pregnancy..and it is NONE of "your" business.
pwb
(11,275 posts)Men should not decide Woman's shit.
captain queeg
(10,204 posts)Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)MFM008
(19,814 posts)To make Republicans pay for this.
If overturning Roe isnt enough to piss you off what will?
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,978 posts)BradAllison
(1,879 posts)And start screaming "it's over!!!!"
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)in making decisions on abortion versus local legislatures. I screamed at my tv that they shouldn't, and legiatures shouldn't. It should be left to the woman and her doctor.