Michigan school shooter's parents a couple of real winners

[ck4829]

Father dodges paying child support and the mother, well, she was one of those people who just LOVED that Trump was "not politically correct"...

The boy’s father, James Crumbley, 45, has worked as a tech salesman and recently ran into legal trouble in Florida regarding child support payments (Me: Funny how he had no problem buying a gun last Friday though). It is unknown if James’ current wife, Jennifer Crumbley, is Ethan’s mother. Two of James’ exes did not respond to The Daily Beast’s requests for comment.

Jennifer Crumbley, 43, worked as a real estate broker in the Oxford area, but her staff bio has now been taken down. Although James’ online presence demonstrates a preference for the Seattle Seahawks, his posts were not overtly political.

Jennifer, however, in November 2016, penned an open letter to President-Elect Donald Trump, which she posted on her blog.

“Mr. Trump, I actually love that you are a bad public speaker because that showed sincerity, and humility,” she wrote. “You changed your mind, and you said ‘so what.’ You made the famous ‘grab them in the pussy’ comment, did it offend me? No. I say things all the time that people take the wrong way, do I mean them, not always. Do I agree that you should of (sic) shown your tax returns? No. I don’t care what you do or maybe don’t pay in taxes, I think those are personal and if the Gov’t can lock someone up over $10,000 of unpaid taxes and you slipped on by, then that shows the corruption.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter

No wonder they knew where to find a lawyer so quickly, someone from that household was going to do something deadly and/or stupid sooner or later. Unfortunately, it was sooner.

[Johnny2X2X]

1. Was this political

Did the parents send their son to school to kill libs like Rittenhouse's mom sent him to Wisconsin to do?

[Ocelot II]

7. Just stop it.

There's no evidence of this. And there was never any evidence that Rittenhouse's mother had anything to do with the Kenosha shootings either.

[TheRealNorth]

11. There is no evidence that the Waukesha SUV driver was politically motivated either....

But that doesn't stop the Cons from running with it.

[Gore1FL]

12. I don't think we should use their low standard though. nt

[Zeitghost]

18. You need to set your standards a bit higher.

You need to set your standards a bit higher.

[TheRealNorth]

21. I know, but it seems like truth really doesn't matter to these people anymore...

And many are too lazy or don't know how to search for it and/or there are many charlatans out there to take advantage of ignorance.

[elleng]

2. 'sincerity, and humility'

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I hope they get sued into oblivion.

[GusBob]

9. They were called to the school the day of the shooting

To me that screams: "this could have been prevented"

Yeah I'm thinking lawsuit

[Cuthbert Allgood]

16. So sue the dad who doesn't pay child support and this mom who doesn't seem wealthy?

What is going to come from that?

[Baitball Blogger]

20. Precedent.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. I don't think that works the way you think it does.

This would set no precedent in tort law that I know of.

[Baitball Blogger]

34. I don't know. I'm hearing a lot this morning about bringing in the parents

to see what their responsibility was on this issue.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

35. Criminally or civilly?

[Baitball Blogger]

36. Criminally.

That certainly will give us enough information to determine if Civil charges are warranted.

Stop and think about what the children of MAGAs are hearing every day in their own homes. I know that it shocks me to hear how loosely white people talk about getting their guns and shooting someone. We use to think it was hyperbole. Not anymore.

And with what happened in the Rittenhouse case, would have sent signals that these acts of violence are applauded by certain segment of the population.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. These parents aided and abeted the crime of their child

This is similar to the case of the Michigan school shooter last year where the parents first fled, were caught and then charged with aidig the shooting by their child

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Baitball Blogger]

43. You should start your own thread to bring attention to this.

[yardwork]

27. If insurance companies start having to pay out, things might change.

Americans tolerate a much higher level of violence than most of rest of the world. It's become normal for us. How do we change that? Powerful institutions have to want to change things. If the insurance industry starts losing money, they are a powerful lobby for change.

That's why there's so much resistance to lawsuits from the gun lobby. It's a real danger to them.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

33. 100% guarantee you that any insurance has a clause

that gets them out of coverage for illegal acts.

And do we know they have any insurance? What are their limits? High enough to make the insurance company scared? Unlikely.

[inthewind21]

37. Surely you're kidding

Insurance? You think insurance covers a shooting?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

38. I was replying to yardwork

who seemed to think making insurance companies pay is what needs to happen. I was indicating that wasn't going to happen, and, even if it did, we don't know that there even is insurance in this instance.

[yardwork]

40. There are other ways to sue, all of which are resisted by the gun lobby.

Class action lawsuits against gun manufacturers and retailers, for instance, could result in very large judgments. I'm not talking about individual families. Think bigger.

[lindysalsagal]

4. GQP politicians are no longer protecting the public or setting expectations for civil behavior

and so you get wackos, truly broken people, and kids who see that the brakes are off and anti-social behavior will be rewarded.

The gqp reps know they own this tragedy, but won't admit it or own it or do anything to curtail it in the future. Win at any cost, including the lives of innocent school children.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Her theory tRump is not corrupt because he slipped on by "then that shows the corruption"

Astounding shallowness of thinking. Reasoning that tRump is not corrupt because he benefited from a corrupt system. Including the implicit assumption that tRump didn't pay his taxes and should hide it.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. It's the thinking of people who are members of a cult, adoring of their cult leader (nt)

[yardwork]

28. It's an attitude that assumes everybody else is cheating and winning.

That's the Trumper attitude. Everybody is cheating and winning, and Trump's the biggest cheater of all so he's the biggest winner. They want to be like Trump.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. Correct. Their victimology is part of their permanent outrage. . . . nt

[tanyev]

6. What, pray tell, was the right way to take "grab them by the pussy"?

Hmm?

[FelineOverlord]

10. Here is a link

to the blog post that is supposedly from the mother of the Michigan killer.

https://justagirlgoignthroughthisworld.wordpress.com/

[MarcA]

13. She supports those who create most of her problems. n/t

[GusBob]

14. Holy crazy talk

durn she is whacked

[yardwork]

29. A realtor put that language on her blog. That's unusual.

[marble falls]

15. "Bouchard said police are already investigating emerging hoax threats of copycat shootings ...

... calling it an “incredibly disturbing trend.” "

[onethatcares]

17. what kind of retainer is the attorney going to need?

and do they have the money to pay them?

next ?

why did he feel the need to buy a 9mm with a 15 round magazine? He (Daddy) wasn't going to hunt deer with it.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. Kid had it tough, that's for sure.

[Skittles]

23. yes he did

but.....a lot of kids have it tough

[Skittles]

22. his mum calls herself a feminist

yet she heartily approved of Trump's "grab them by the pussy" remark

[Wingus Dingus]

39. I think there are two things all Trump supporters have in common to have gotten

sucked into his cult of personality: Hatred of immigrants, and the belief that some less-deserving groups of people (generally non-whites) get "free shit" and benefits that white people don't get. Both are evident in her letter. Whatever redeeming qualities or ideals she used to have were clearly overridden by her white grievance issues.

[Skittles]

41. yes

I too have long known that the root of conservatism is the ability (trying to think of better word for it) to look down on others, feel they are superior to other human beings. Whenever I see read about immigrants and refugees I marvel at their determination and feel despair for the circumstances that make them take such terrible chances. All conservatives see is color and legal status. The so-called word "illegals" is so dehumanizing. Yet conservatives call themselves "Christians". Jesus never thought or behaved the way conservatives do.

[malaise]

24. I am totally confused about this horrific slaughter

So the father bought this gun on Friday> Does he live with the mother and boy?
Is there another kid in Florida for this deadbeat dad? If he doesn't live with them, do we know if the kid bought the gun using the father's credit card?
HELP!

[ck4829]

25. Yes to most of them I think

Shooter lives with dad and dad has a kid in Florida he doesn’t pay child support for.

Sounds like dad bought the gun on Black Friday.

[malaise]

26. Thanks

[HAB911]

31. Michigan school shooter's parents a couple of real WIENERS

Fixed it