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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:23 PM Dec 2021

I have to ask this question about the Michigan shooter.

And I apologize, but I can't get the notion out of my mind.

Is it possible that this disturbed kid saw all the accolades and perks that Rittenhouse has recently enjoyed for his killing of two people and wanted the same treatment for himself?

Didn't we anticipate that the Rittenhouse grooming by MAGA might bring about more such executions?

It was permission.

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I have to ask this question about the Michigan shooter. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Dec 2021 OP
I don't think it's that far out to wonder about that. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #1
Since school shootings have been happening for some thirty years already, probably not. Ocelot II Dec 2021 #2
You know what? Republicans believe some guy named Q is giving them secret information on the same ck4829 Dec 2021 #3
that doesn't seem comparable wildheart Dec 2021 #4
They are saying he was bullied /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #7
That may well be wildheart Dec 2021 #12
I have a hard time with this. hamsterjill Dec 2021 #17
Sort of a copycat crime, by proximity in time bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #5
There are reports some students knew of the shooting beforehand and stayed home to avoid it. sop Dec 2021 #6
The school had meetings with him and his parents leftieNanner Dec 2021 #13
The dad bought the gun for the kid to use? wildheart Dec 2021 #16
Don't know that explicitly leftieNanner Dec 2021 #18
Ugh wildheart Dec 2021 #21
Some parents can be just as unstable as their larvae. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #23
I saw something like that wildheart Dec 2021 #14
He'll learn real quickly that school shootings are open and closed cases. Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #8
No, this is a school shooting...completely different. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #9
The warning bells were clanging long before the Rittenhouse verdict Sympthsical Dec 2021 #10
I think his Dad bought him his very own gun. LuvLoogie Dec 2021 #11
There is absolutely no basis for this assertion. brooklynite Dec 2021 #15
I think that's a big reach and unlikely. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #19
I don't care about his reasons ripcord Dec 2021 #20
Remotely possible, Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #22
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
1. I don't think it's that far out to wonder about that.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:24 PM
Dec 2021

Reading all this info about his parents shows he was certainly in that type environment.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
3. You know what? Republicans believe some guy named Q is giving them secret information on the same
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

forum that mass shooters post their manifestos and where child pornographers congregate, and also that Italian satellites stole votes from Trump with a tractor beam or something.

So, I don't know what they actually believe.

My verdict: It's possible.

 

wildheart

(62 posts)
4. that doesn't seem comparable
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:28 PM
Dec 2021

this kid just went shooting at innocent people who were not threatening him. Rittenhouse, was cleared of wrongdoing because the evidence showed that they were threatening him.
But who knows what was going through the mind of the school shooter.

hamsterjill

(15,221 posts)
17. I have a hard time with this.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:19 PM
Dec 2021

I don't like to give excuses for people who kill innocent children. If he was being bullied, that's terrible. But it is not a defense for what he did, and I don't like the way the general discussion (not you but society in general) is taking whereby there are some "excuses" made for someone committing a despicable act.

I think we as a society need to be concerned about this and not get it started where school shootings are concerned. He's a murderer. Basically whatever happened before that is null and void after what he did.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
5. Sort of a copycat crime, by proximity in time
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:29 PM
Dec 2021

It's a possibly contributory factor, but how would it be measured? Leave it to the forensic psychologists to opine.

sop

(10,192 posts)
6. There are reports some students knew of the shooting beforehand and stayed home to avoid it.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:33 PM
Dec 2021

(ABC News) "After the attack, authorities learned of social media posts about threats of a shooting at the roughly 1,700-student school...A concerned parent, Robin Redding, said her son, 12th-grader Treshan Bryant, stayed home Tuesday after hearing threats of a possible shooting. 'This couldn’t be just random,' she said. Bryant said he had heard vague threats 'for a long time now' about plans for a shooting."

Apparently, this kid has been going off the rails for some time. His media postings should reveal his motives.

leftieNanner

(15,115 posts)
13. The school had meetings with him and his parents
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:13 PM
Dec 2021

On the day before and the day of the shootings.

Behavior problems, apparently.

And the Dad bought him a semi-automatic hand gun.

leftieNanner

(15,115 posts)
18. Don't know that explicitly
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:20 PM
Dec 2021

But the Dad bought the gun last Friday and the kid posted photos and videos of himself online showing off "his" new gun.

I guess that is to be determined by the prosecutors.

 

wildheart

(62 posts)
21. Ugh
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:27 PM
Dec 2021

noway does a parent not know that their child is unstable. To bring a gun into that is not good, but yeah, we will find out more as more facts come out.

 

wildheart

(62 posts)
14. I saw something like that
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:15 PM
Dec 2021

where the rumors were flying among students, and the parents were sent an email assuring them that the rumors were unfounded, and they had sufficient security.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
10. The warning bells were clanging long before the Rittenhouse verdict
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:41 PM
Dec 2021

The more info that comes out, the more it seems a lot of people at least had an suspicion this was coming.

LuvLoogie

(7,011 posts)
11. I think his Dad bought him his very own gun.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:48 PM
Dec 2021

When was the meeting with his parents called?

The meeting, about Ethan's concerning behavior, occurred on the morning of the shooting, which was the afternoon of Tuesday, November 30th.

The gun was purchased on the previous Friday, on November 26th.

When was the call made to schedule the meeting?

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
15. There is absolutely no basis for this assertion.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:17 PM
Dec 2021

First, it assumes a a belief that, if caught, he'd be exonerated.

Seond, what's the explanation of all the mass shootings BEFORE the Rittenhouse verdict.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
20. I don't care about his reasons
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:24 PM
Dec 2021

Hero worship or being bullied neither is a reason to shoot anyone, I'm happy he is being charged as an adult because he committed an adult crime.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
22. Remotely possible,
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:35 PM
Dec 2021

but entirely different circumstances. When there is a protest in a permit-less open carry state and half the people show up with AR-15s and a dozen or so shootings occur, that's when we can look at the Rittenhouse verdict as the cause. And I fear it will happen.

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