The abortion question just got personal.

[KentuckyWoman]

I have no kids. I had 2 abortions. Both were to save my life in wanted pregnancies that went wrong. I was last trimester in both. The first less that a year after Roe.

Today I learned a 27 yr old member of my family that I am quite close to has lost the baby at about 14 weeks. Her body is not self aborting so they are giving it another week before doing what is needed. Her doctor can't do it. She'll basically be sent to an abortion clinic.

She was so excited to be pregnant after years of trying. She told everyone. There will be no baby. Her tears into the phone tonight are because in the future she is afraid to try again. If it goes bad she won't even be able to get medical care when her state runs off all providers.

She is heartbroken even more so because these horrid people have no decency or humanity. They have stolen her hope.

May every one of them get the worst pains of life heaped on them and into eternity if it exists.

[Bettie]

1. Oh, I am so sorry

it is awful to lose a wanted pregnancy, but a week seems like a long time to go. Hope they are watching her closely.

So, her doctor doesn't even know how to take care of a fairly common problem in pregnancy? At 14 weeks? Does the medical establishment just not care what happens to women?

Again, so sorry, I've been there, miscarriages and a full term loss. They are heartbreaking.

[KentuckyWoman]

6. In her state no OB will do it.

They all made a decision based on state laws to shift the legal risks to clinics.

[Bettie]

7. OMG. That is malpractice

they won't take care of their patients. It is wrong and it is horrible.

[LeftInTX]

41. Which state is this?

[Demsrule86]

11. Read my post Bettie, it can become life threatening quickly...I nearly died. It is horrible to do

this to anyone...she will likely hemorrhage if anything remains behind.

[Bettie]

17. Oh, I do know

I had to have a D&C at 12 weeks, after they found no heartbeat. They gave me 24 hours to miscarry naturally before they set up a D&C.

It is awful and I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[Demsrule86]

36. I had miscarried previously also and had a D&C right away. The doctor said it was dangerous to

wait. I also had a baby die in the womb late in the term which was very very hard. I had to deliver, the doctor knocked me out and asked me if I wanted to see the baby. I did and we had a private family funeral. It was my choice. This happened in Pennsylvania. I can't imagine being forced as they do in Georgia and other places now to carry a dead baby for months. The idiot who sponsored the law in Georgia said God might decide to bring the baby back to life. This sort of thing is very risky for the mother. I found out five years ago that I have a gluten allergy which is probably why I had difficulty with pregnancy or so my doctor said. I never knew that was possible at the time.

[Claustrum]

2. I am sorry for you and your family member.

I have a friend who did it because of a genetic problem that they detected before birth. It was a tough decision and one that still is a painful memory for her many years later.

There are way more reasons for abortion than what the right is arguing. Every parent wants to provide the best and give them the best chance at a good life. And sometimes, it just isn't the right time and right circumstance.

There is enough guilt for the would-be mom that they don't need other people judging and calling them baby killers.

[Hekate]

3. I am so sorry -- my heart goes out to both of you

[mcar]

4. I am so sorry

To make such a terrible loss so much worse is unconscionable.

[BComplex]

5. May every one of them get the worst pains of life heaped on them and into eternity if it exists.

Amen. Life is a boomerang. Whatever you throw out there is going to come rolling back right at ya, sooner or later.

Be careful what you throw out. It looks really different when it's coming toward you, than what it looks like moving away from you.

[TreasonousBastard]

8. That is terrlble. I know several women who had...

miscarriages, and the damage was much more than physical.

The emotional suffering from all this is one side effect they just care about.

[Demsrule86]

9. Tell her to be careful...they did this to me and I hemorraged in my kitchen...in front of

my three small kids...the oldest was 7 and he ran to the neighbors for help. My husband was traveling. I was taken to the hospital where I was left in a room with no IV or medical intervention while my right to life doctor waited for blood work that would prove I was miscarrying...I almost died. My husband was in transit and reached the hospital in time to find me lying in a pool of blood unconscious. He screamed bloody murder and fired the doctor. A young resident saved my life. I had lost so much blood I needed a huge transfusion and platelets as well...I spent almost four weeks in hospital and got an aids test every six months for ten years...I was also left infertile. There would be no more babies. This happened in Georgia.

[Claustrum]

12. I am so so so sorry about what happened to you

What kind of doctor leave their patient to die.......

That's why I believe some profession is required to leave their personal belief out of it. That includes doctors, lawyers, and judges.

[Demsrule86]

31. It was awful.

[CTyankee]

15. What a horrific thing to go through! It makes me very, very angry to learn of such abuse.

I have to stop writing now...I'm afraid my anger is too much to deal with.

Glad you survived that horror.

[Demsrule86]

32. I was very fortunate.

And thank you.

[MustLoveBeagles]

16. My god

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[Demsrule86]

33. It was terrible and I had a history of bleeding after deliver not like that but the doctor

the so-called doctor completely ignored that...he didn't give a damn about me...and I believe doctors like that will allow women to die.

[UpInArms]

18. I am so sorry

[Demsrule86]

34. It is the one thing that still haunts me...I am angry to this day if I think about it. I had four

kids at the time. My first was older than the three little ones. I had been told I would never have any more kids after my oldest was born but I did 13 years later. My oldest was in her first year of college. I was a teenage Mom and that is also part of the problem with this law. I grew two inches after my first child was born. This will force girls who should not have babies so young to have babies. It is not healthy to give birth so young.

I married at 18...honestly I don't know why and divorced by my 21st birthday. My parents were wonderful. Maybe I wouldn't have had more kids. I had trouble with the pill and IUDs. And all other methods are not that good. But it should have been my decision, not Dr. Death's decision. And had I died which almost happened, four children would have lost their mother.

[sheshe2]

24. I am so sorry this happened to you, Demsrule.

[Demsrule86]

35. It was awful. I have had two traumatic experiences in my life...one was sexual assault and this

is the other one. Roe is so important. And already poor women are back in the back alleys in many locations that have criminalized the abortion pill and made it extremely hard to get abortions at all.

[MLAA]

10. ❤️❤️❤️💕💕❤️❤️❤️💕💕💕 to your family member and entire family.

[Lonestarblue]

13. The so-called pro-life crowd are only pro control of women.

As the stories here indicate, there is so much more to the issue of whether to have a child and whether it’s even safe. Politicians and judges need to bow out and let women and their physicians make their own medical decisions. We are not a country ruled by the Taliban yet, though the Supreme Court and the Republican Party are trying to force us in that direction.

[calimary]

21. That's EXACTLY it. The wish to dominate.

Cruel, selfish, cold-hearted, and hardly what I’d call “pro-life”.

I’m so sorry for the agony expressed here. People can be so heartless! And NOT ONE of those so-called “pro-lifers” has ever stepped up to offer help, shelter, support, babysitting, or co-parenting assistance. “If you so forcefully and vociferously demand that it be born, what are you willing to do to help that mother?”

Both my pregnancies were difficult after the first trimester. I had to be induced both times because my doctor viewed them as a growing threat to my health, if not to my very life.

Pregnancy is NO walk in the park - under ANY circumstances. Even under the best of circumstances.

[DENVERPOPS]

39. Pro life only until birth........Nc

[MustLoveBeagles]

14. I'm so sorry

My heart goes out to you both.

[Shellback Squid]

19. they are a death cult

[NowISeetheLight]

20. I remember this case in Phoenix in 2010...

.. I was living there working at another hospital when this happened. A lady became pregnant who had pulmonary hypertension. A pregnancy could be fatal to the mother. She went to the hospital and it was performed. A Nun who was an administrator there decided about it was excommunicated. The local Bishop at the time wanted to put "conditions" on any future decisions about this sort of thing. Basically their view was "let the mother die". As a parting shot the Bishop stripped the hospital of it's Catholic status.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_of_Margaret_McBride

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/abortion-debate-hospital-stripped-catholic-status/story?id=12455295

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072#:~:text=www.catholicsun.org-,Sister%20Margaret%20McBride%20was%20excommunicated%20after%20allowing%20an%20abortion%20to,say%20would%20otherwise%20have%20died.&text=Last%20November%2C%20a%2027%2Dyear,and%20Medical%20Center%20in%20Phoenix.

[Kath2]

22. Blessings to you and your family member!

It is true that the anti-choice cult has no compassion.

[LiberalFighter]

23. If the court overturns it.

I say demand the men turn over the medical records of their spouses and the Barret turns over hers.

[sheshe2]

25. I am so sorry, KentuckyWoman.

Everything about this is so wrong for women.

Love to you and yours.

[BigmanPigman]

26. Ditto!

"May every one of them get the worst pains of life heaped on them and into eternity if it exists" and in spades!

[AverageOldGuy]

27. Of course it's cruel . . .

. . . because for Republicans, cruelty is the point. Not the right thing, not the wrong thing, but the cruelest thing.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

28. Kavanagh alone makes my old boil.

What a horrible excuse for a human being. I'm trying to ignore what's going on and enjoy the Christmas season.

Taking away our rights ought to shake awake Americans sleepwalking their way towards Kleptocracy. But I fear we are losing it all.

[DENVERPOPS]

40. The "HANDMAIDEN" is close on his tails......NC

[Coventina]

29. It's personal to me as well. That same thing happened to me.

"Lucky" for me, my ob/gyn was able to take care of me before the state laws were passed that would have put me through even more torture.

Please give your family member my love.

After my late term tragedy, I was never able to get pregnant again.

Please let her know that there are people sending her cosmic vibes of love and understanding.

[cilla4progress]

30. I'm so sorry, KentuckyWoman.

I second Coventina.

[piddyprints]

37. That's just cruel.

I'm so sorry. Please update us on how she's doing.

I always wish for the evil ones to have pain and sorrow, but my wishes don't seem to come true. It's as if it pays to be evil in this world.

[JudyM]

38. So sorry and what a slice of reality. Papers should be flooded with letters to the editor like this.

[Hortensis]

42. I'm so sorry, Kentucky, for your babies and hers. Heartbreaking.

When she recovers, she shouldn't be afraid to try again because of the Republicans, though. No matter what happens, thousands of ob/gyns will be practicing in all states as always, including doing evacuations when sadly called for, and insurance will still cover medical procedures. Best wishes to her.

[spinbaby]

43. I have a friend whose baby had birth defects

Actually, birth defect is too mild a term. Her baby had triploidy—three sets of chromosomes instead of two. This was a wanted pregnancy. A routine blood test at 16 weeks showed a problem. By the time all the testing was done to confirm what was wrong, she was almost 20 weeks pregnant. The baby had a condition that was incompatible with life and, moreover, put the mother at extreme risk of toxemia. She did get the pregnancy terminated at a hospital, but it took two weeks to get all the necessary permissions.

[TeamProg]

44. There is no ONE CORRECT WAY or outcome reached to get through life. Making abortion illegal

is medieval.

Even the fucking PURITANS allowed for herb-induced abortions.