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Chris Murphy - I thought about Republicans' floor speeches today on the "sanctity of life" (Original Post) ItsjustMe Dec 2021 OP
'So I turned the car around, and went to the Senate floor.' elleng Dec 2021 #1
K&R Arkansas Granny Dec 2021 #2
Senator Chris Murphy following Jesus's lead, doing KPN Dec 2021 #3
What's Religion Got to Do With this? msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #20
I'm not really religious. I have read the Bible KPN Dec 2021 #22
✔️ msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #23
No problem. I can see how my "expression" could be KPN Dec 2021 #24
Sanctity literally means "holiness" Shermann Dec 2021 #4
need to enforce the WELL REGULATED in the 2nd amendment. pansypoo53219 Dec 2021 #5
That seems like a weak analogy since shooting kids in school is already illegal. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #6
Selling semi-automatic military style weapons to civilians IS legal. n/t pnwmom Dec 2021 #8
Right but the GOP isnt trying to make D&C equipment illegal. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #9
D & C equipment is used for many purposes besides abortions. And abortions pnwmom Dec 2021 #10
Sure and AR15s can be used for other things besides killing people SYFROYH Dec 2021 #13
The main purpose of an AR15 is to kill or wound a large number of people in a short time. patphil Dec 2021 #16
I agree that it was designed well. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #17
AR15's are designed for quickly, accurately, and efficiently killing and wounding people. pnwmom Dec 2021 #18
We can disagree on whether civilians should own AR15s SYFROYH Dec 2021 #19
Of course it's illegal, but it's tolerated. patphil Dec 2021 #14
Exactly n/t msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #21
If Sandy Hook didn't persuade people of the necessity of strict gun control laws, I don't want LoisB Dec 2021 #7
It's not really "people" as in average people. evolves Dec 2021 #11
That's exactly what I think. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #12
Rt TY.. & Sen Murphy has Thousnads Cha Dec 2021 #15

KPN

(17,377 posts)
3. Senator Chris Murphy following Jesus's lead, doing
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 08:26 PM
Dec 2021

Jesus’s work. Amen and hallelujah.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
20. What's Religion Got to Do With this?
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:30 AM
Dec 2021

It's common sense, common decency, bottom line it's the HUMANE thing to do.




KPN

(17,377 posts)
22. I'm not really religious. I have read the Bible
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:10 PM
Dec 2021

and believe Jesus was a real person and historical figure of great influence. And believe what he talked, preached and taught about was love, compassion, understanding, the views and behavior that comprise good as opposed to evil including common decency and being humane. In fact, that is all I get and take from the Bible.

My post was simply my own expression of irony. Here we have Senator Chris Murphy saying what Jesus would have said (if he was consistent with his “teachings” and he is no longer here on earth so I can only assume that he would based on my understanding of what is recorded in the Bible), while evangelicals bellow, resist, protest and promote the opposite of what I suppose Jesus would have said. That’s all.

KPN

(17,377 posts)
24. No problem. I can see how my "expression" could be
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:42 PM
Dec 2021

misunderstood quite easily. I tend to be literal in my verbal comprehension which causes me to misunderstand others’ comments or questions more often than I like to admit so I fully get it.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
4. Sanctity literally means "holiness"
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 09:02 PM
Dec 2021

I've yet to hear a pro-life argument that doesn't lean on that word heavily. They just substituted one word which is less invocative of spirituality for another. There's no unification of church and state going on here!

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
10. D & C equipment is used for many purposes besides abortions. And abortions
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:01 PM
Dec 2021

can be carried out without D & C equipment.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
13. Sure and AR15s can be used for other things besides killing people
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:19 PM
Dec 2021

And other guns and other things can kill people.

Which brings us back to my point that Murphy wants to ban an instrument.

patphil

(9,067 posts)
16. The main purpose of an AR15 is to kill or wound a large number of people in a short time.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:33 PM
Dec 2021

It's a battlefield weapon.
Of course it's an instrument...a instrument of death.
It has no other use that some other gun can't fulfill without the mass carnage potential of an AR-15.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
17. I agree that it was designed well.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:54 PM
Dec 2021

But all those other guns you consider more appropriate for civilian use were also designed for the battlefield and increased rate of fire. Revolvers, lever actions, bolt actions, pump actions, semi-autos with magazines. All the major designs were for the same reason.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
18. AR15's are designed for quickly, accurately, and efficiently killing and wounding people.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 11:12 PM
Dec 2021

They aren't just any instrument. They are instruments designed specifically for the purpose of shooting people -- especially in war.

They shouldn't be available to civilians, much less teenagers.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
19. We can disagree on whether civilians should own AR15s
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:11 PM
Dec 2021

… if your judgment is based on AR15s being designed to shoot people in war, but other guns are OK. Those other guns such as revolvers, lever actions, 5-round bolt actions, pump actions, and semiautos were initially designed for the same reasons (mostly).

But I will assert that banning AR15s will have the same effect of lowering overall homicide by gun rates as banning curette would have on lowering overall rates of abortions. Not much.

patphil

(9,067 posts)
14. Of course it's illegal, but it's tolerated.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:28 PM
Dec 2021

The Republicans have done the math, and decided that the lives of all those children who die as a result of gun violence aren't worth the votes they would lose if they supported a sane, responsible gun policy in this nation.
It's a callous, depraved, and deliberate decision by the Republicans in Congress to prevent action that would make our children safe.

And yet, they are the party that supports "right to life".
No, they're not.
They're a party of expediency that trades life for votes.
Their belief in the "right to life" only exists in so far as they can transform it into a knee jerk issue that gets them elected.
Once elected, the right to life fades away with the birth of the child.

LoisB

(13,028 posts)
7. If Sandy Hook didn't persuade people of the necessity of strict gun control laws, I don't want
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 09:35 PM
Dec 2021

to imagine what nightmare will.

evolves

(5,836 posts)
11. It's not really "people" as in average people.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:06 PM
Dec 2021

The people that can't be persuaded are those in congress getting their pockets lined by the NRA. And on and on with minority rule...


https://thehill.com/homenews/news/548127-2-in-3-support-stricter-gun-control-laws-poll

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
12. That's exactly what I think.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:09 PM
Dec 2021

That horrible event should have been enough to get some action toward passing gun legislation. But there are people who claim that Sandy Hook was staged just so the government would have a reason to take away people's guns. Then there was the Vegas shooter. I could on and on.

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