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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer federal prosecutor: We'll see 'a tidal wave of criminal charges against Donald Trump'
Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner has been speaking the blunt truth about Donald Trump's criminal conduct for years. He's not stopping now just because most of the media, and most Democrats in Congress for that matter, have moved on. I spoke to Kirschner, who is now an NBC News legal analyst, in a recent "Salon Talks" episode about Steve Bannon's indictment and more.
https://www.rawstory.com/former-federal-prosecutor-we-ll-see-a-tidal-wave-of-criminal-charges-against-donald-trump/
malaise
(269,022 posts)Get thee to the greatest page RFN!
olegramps
(8,200 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)The Department of Justice has disappointed us for decades. When-- or if-- they come through with serious indictments, few will be as excited as I. Until then, Trump and his cronies continue to thumb their noses at our systems all while trying to destroy them.
If the DOJ has any sense of self-preservation, AG Garland might want to step up the pace of their investigations.
jaxexpat
(6,831 posts)And while it's true that the nation's survival requires a business-as-usual basis, the course correction needed in these moments is equally basic. The actualization of justice in the US flails helplessly for the multiple injustices served out over the decades left in disrepair for the cause of "moving on". The principle of "greater the crime=greater the punishment" keeps getting turned on its head when the criminal is an ex-president. Don't know how long a nation harboring self-deception of that magnitude can stand.
But then, minority authority always undermines democracy. It's a fundamental reality.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Perfectly stated. This is the fundamental truth, unfortunately. And there is no sign whatsoever, justice will ever be served.
I'm starting come to accept these facts to the degree that I must, but I don't want to. I continue to hang on to some shred of hope that this time will be different, all the while knowing it won't be.
It breaks my heart, on some occasions tears flow like now. It's hard to accept, I want to continue to fight for justice.
It seems to be as always, a losing battle.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)But, its always darkest before dawn. And like you, I am of two minds. Half has given up while the other has broken fingernails from clawing and scratching its way to justice for the guilty.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Someone told me to that Hope is just another word for Faith.
I think that is incorrect, at least I HOPE so. Because Faith requires in "believing" in fairy tales. I do not believe in fairy tales.
But I do try to hang on to some measure of HOPE.
joshdawg
(2,648 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)whatever is going on, the goal is to bury it, let it die quietly. there might be some sort of statement eventually. but it will be fairly meaningless or worse. "nothing to see here" .. blah blah blah. Or maybe heavily redacted report that basically reveals nothing.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)dalton99a
(81,513 posts)to keep everyone guessing.
Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)and think nuances of laws, big and small, are what will nab the Devil
ashredux
(2,606 posts)liberalgunwilltravel
(326 posts)With any luck, all of his supporters will go with them.
Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)them indicted and tried though.
HAB911
(8,893 posts)tanyev
(42,559 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)If Biden's choice for AG doesn't hold TFG and his criminal enterprise accountable before the midterms millions of Dems, Indies and moderate GQPers will stay home and not vote. The GQP ers will gain massive majorities in the House, Senate and in local races.
Just sayin...
liberalgunwilltravel
(326 posts)Political suicide always accomplishes ones goals.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Believe it when I see it.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Sort of like believing in the fairy dust, unicorns or "god" or something.
Well, I'd like to.. but at some point, we have to wake up and smell the sewer and call it what it is.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)We've been waiting for years, t's not happening, period.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)mn9driver
(4,426 posts)He is incredibly dangerous, and the only way to reduce that threat is to prosecute him for what he has done and what he continues to try to do. I have little confidence that our institutions are up to the job.
But make no mistake; the genie is out of the bottle in the US and prosecuting the Orange shitstain will not complete the job. The GOP has gone full authoritarian/fascist/anti-democracy, call it what you will. They will not stop.
The voters have to stop them and that is going to be very challenging. If a voter protection act doesnt get passed before the 2022 elections, the window to save US democracy may close permanently.
edbermac
(15,940 posts)Botany
(70,510 posts)The man has killed millions, fleeced America for 1.7 billion, and tried to violently overthrow
our democracy in order to avoid criminal and civil charges.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)sarchasm
(1,012 posts)Lacrimosa dies illa
Qua resurget ex favilla
Judicandus homo reus.
Huic ergo parce, Deus:
Pie Jesu Domine,
Dona eis requiem. Amen.
Full of tears will be that day
When from the ashes shall arise
The guilty man to be judged;
Therefore spare him, O God,
Merciful Lord Jesus,
Grant them eternal rest. Amen.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Seems like a lot of people knew what he was doing. It wasn't a big secret.
Yet he continued trafficking young girls to the rich and famous for decades.
There seems to be a special system of justice for the privileged.
Hotler
(11,425 posts)gordianot
(15,238 posts)Now that includes ex Presidents. You might as well have Bill Barr. Ignore Trump at your own peril.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Please stop doing that, folks. Pessimism is contagious. So is optimism. Think about it.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)brooklynite
(94,584 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Thanks for posting this! I will read this in its entirety, and it looks very promising.
Good News - Finally!
live love laugh
(13,114 posts)Roy Cohns taught him well.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)I think nobody, no prosecutor in New York or Georgia, at the Department of Justice or elsewhere, wants to be the first person to bring criminal charges against a former president. I predict, though, he will be charged and then every prosecutor will want to be the second one to bring charges, because the white-hot glare of media and political and citizen attention will be on the first prosecution.
I think there is some logic to that. Indicting a former President is new ground for any prosecutor. It's not something to be taken lightly, even when the perp is TFG.
Once the first indictment hits, however, then there's a very good chance the dam will break.