The Jan. 6 Committee Is Promising It Has the Goods. We're About to Find Out

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Liz Cheney says “several weeks” of public hearings that will tell the story of the riot at the Capitol in “vivid color” are coming in 2022


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/liz-cheney-jan-6-committee-public-hearings-1265974/

[mopinko]

1. 2022 just took on a very different hue.

gonna make benghazi look like the fly on pence's head.

[TheRealNorth]

36. Lol

That made me chuckle out loud. Hopefully it's true.

[mopinko]

37. thank you.

took a minute to come up w an appropriate metaphor.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. Sure

Unless there is video of Trump on the phone telling insurrectionists to storm the House and beat police, nothing will come of this.

[MineralMan]

5. Nothing will come of it? Are you sure of that?

Pessimism is not helpful in any way. Sorry.

[Calista241]

6. We may get a mid level peon, but Trump and the important ones are going to skate.

He's going to point to his "peacefully" comment, and ride that to the end. All we'll have is innuendo, hearsay, and 70 million people that will vote for him again.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. It's realism

Ex Presidents in the US never face justice, and it's going to stay that way.

Once you open the door to criminal prosecution of Trump, you're opening a can of worms that will turn us into a banana republic.

Trump is a criminal, he's committed more clear serious crimes than every other President before him combined. But if he were charged and then jailed, the Republicans would pursue mass incarceration of their political opponents going forward. We'd be Turkey inside 6 months and we would see a true coup.

[0rganism]

12. Do you really think the Republicans need a tit-for-tat to justify a coup?

Expecting our "colleagues on the other side of the aisle" to return fairness and decency has been something of a disappointment of late. From what I see, they'll happily build gas chambers for the lot of us with no provocation or precedent whatsoever and dance with glee in the ruins of democracy.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. They're sliding slowly towards fascism

They no longer believe in democracy, that is clear. But it's a big jump to jailing your enemies even though that's what Trump was talking about for years.

Mark my words, if Trump were to be jailed, Republicans would jail Obama just as soon as they had the power to do so. They'd invent some fantasy crime and make a huge spectacle of perp walking Obama in handcuffs and feet shackles.

I think we're heading to that regardless of whether Trump faces justice for his crimes, but it's probably several years away yet and it won't be Obama or Hillary Republicans want to jail then, it will be someone else.

[CaptainTruth]

17. Slowly? I'd say they're goose-stepping with enthusiasm.

[uponit7771]

20. We're text book there with the GQP now, we don't have to wait and that's a fact

[Eyeball_Kid]

32. Fascists have resided inside the Republican Party for decades.

Now they're more open about their agenda. In one way, it's better than their hiding and masking their true intentions. We can all see where they want to take us, and why we believe that they are intent on destroying the nation for their own economic and political gain. It's not perfect, but free and fair elections are a true attempt at self-rule. Fascists don't want self-rule. They hate self-rule. And they lie when they say otherwise.

[TheRealNorth]

39. They are already chanting to lock up Democrats....

Once they have the power to get away with it, they will do it regardless.

[Ligyron]

15. THIS

so much this…

[Walleye]

16. Bingo! We shouldn't base any of our actions on what we think the Republicans might do to retaliate

They have centuries of grievances to use against us. Elephant never forgets

[sarchasm]

18. AOC is right to call them out.

These so-called "colleagues" have, by default, been murdering us for eons. JFK, RFK, MLK, Lincoln ...

They know the law is not on their side, nor useful, so weapons and death are their final argument for everything.

[uponit7771]

21. +1, " they'll happily build gas chambers for the lot of us with no provocation". People who don't...

... know history tend to repeat the bad parts of it more often

[Eyeball_Kid]

30. Sometimes I wonder...

if posters are unduly influenced by foreign agents who have been working on social media sites to spread cynicism and falsehoods for the purpose of weakening the US' values and commitment to self-governance. Being negative about the possible outcomes of the 1/6 inquiry is too easy and neglects the earnest attempts by Congress to preserve our democratic republic. We should all support their efforts, IMO. Raising questions about the pace of DOJ's handling of the matter is well-deserved, but it doesn't mean that we should discount any and all efforts to defend the Constitution and enforce its laws.

Foreign agents on social media have an easy job. Just badmouth and collect a paycheck.

Preserving the integrity of the Constitution and the Rule of Law is difficult.

[h2ebits]

41. Well stated. . . .

and I agree with you.

Fear is their greatest weapon.

I have an article hanging on my refrigerator door, which has been hanging there for many years. The article is from The Denver Post in a column that they used to run called "Vox Pop." Here's a short excerpt from this article written by Marshall Colt, titled "Courage Makes Up a Leader":

"Courage. Dan Rather chose that word to conclude his newscasts several years ago. . . .until he thought better of it. The nation balked, not at the word but at the delivery--which didn't ring true. For courage is not a word to be spoken with a smile for blithe inspiration. It is a rare quality, extremely difficult to earn, requiring uncommon sense of character. Many aspire, few achieve.

Courage is more than fortitude. The latter is "hanging in there" when the going gets tough. When life doesn't go our way, we draw on fortitude to keep going. Courage, however, is the assertive acting acting out of a belief or principle. It is more than staying the course. It is a bold rudder command to radically change the course of events."

[cstanleytech]

33. I have to agree. I mean look at how most Republicans are behaving? They are embracing

many of the same things the German people embraced pre WWII and largely for the same reasons.
So the odds of them suddenly deciding to join the Democrats in holding the people involved and behind the Jan 6 attempted insurrection is probably not going to happen.

[uponit7771]

19. +1, even if there was I'm doubting the DOJ would want to prosecute him. The record so far on things

... that are overtly criminal and out in the open being prosecuted are not good

[Lovie777]

4. They knew right after and probably before 6th of January . ...

documentation, witness testimony, evidence was needed and yet will the actual perpttators be indicted. That is the question.

[KPN]

40. Well, even when we were less divided Nixon wasn't. Reagan didn't even come close on Ira-Contra.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. I know what happened. I wanna know who put them up to it. And who paid for it. /nt

[Paladin]

9. I'll believe it when I see it. (nt)

[Sherman A1]

28. Same here

Nothing will happen to any of these terrorists.

[LonePirate]

10. The committee has 13 months to complete its work before the next Congress.

If Repubs retake the House next November, their first action will be to shut down the committee.

[TheRickles]

22. The results better starting coming in well before the election, in order to wake people up.

I'd say we have 9 months, tops, to get some major indictments and, hopefully, convictions. Otherwise, people will have already made up their minds come election time, and factors like gerrymandering and voter suppression will carry the day. We need a rising tide that crests in November.

[gab13by13]

24. Don't forget,

Democrats follow norms and rules, one of the norms being not to do something to influence the outcome of an election, something like James Comey did with Hillary.

Playing by different rules is tough, it's like referees are only allowed to call penalties on one team.

[wnylib]

34. Maybe that's why the committee

is going public before the elections - to make sure the information gets out to the public. They might not necessarily be trying to make it an election issue, although it certainly will be one. Their goal might be to make sure the information is released to the public in case the composition of Congress changes enough to shut them down.

We can count on segments from the public report being incorporated into election ads by both parties. Dems will use them to show how criminally corrupt the Republican Party has become. The fascists will claim that the report and the testimonies are false and that the entire investigation is a political move by Dems to grab power and enforce totalitarian rule that the people must rebel against in order to preserve their freedumbs.

The division lines and the messages from both sides are predictable. How effective either side will be with their message is not yet predictable.

[sop]

11. Let the truth come out, maybe it will open some eyes.

It's all we can hope for. No one's going to suffer legal consequences, certainly not Trump.

[malthaussen]

13. What about indictments, eh?

All this is is pre-Media Event Hype, as if it were the next film by Peter Jackson.

And at least to me, it raises the question: if you've "got the goods," then why are you not acting RIGHT NOW to do something?

-- Mal

[gab13by13]

25. The select committee can only refer to DOJ,

it is up to DOJ to indict and convict.

[former9thward]

31. If they "have the goods" why not refer now?

Why wait?

[malthaussen]

38. My question prezackly.

This "announcement" sets my teeth on edge.

-- Mal

[KPN]

42. Perhaps they have or will as soon as the select cpmmittee investigation is completed; or maybe they

plan to fuel public pressure on DOJ to prosecute the instigators to undermine what we all know the GQP will bellow repeatedly 24/7 in unison "it's a political witch hunt, etc."

[George II]

23. I liked the idea of her saying PUBLIC hearings, and there won't be morons like Jordan....

....whining about Benghazi, Afghanistan, etc.

It will be strictly January 6, and with Cheney and Kinzinger on the Committee, it will be bipartisan.

Can't wait.

[gab13by13]

27. Nice for TV ratings,

I would rather there be secret grand jury hearings going on than public hearings because that means DOJ is involved.

[oldsoftie]

26. Lets get it all done BEFORE the '22 elections please. nt

[gab13by13]

29. Once Kornacki dons those khakis

GQPers will cry that Dems aren't allowed to influence an election.

[KPN]

43. Yeah, for sure. And I'm sure they are aware of the need to get this done in the first few months at

most of 2022. Their lives are guided daily by election dates.

[crud]

35. Only thing they need to do is put

the liar on the stand. Anything else will be meaningless to most of the country.