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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,009 posts)
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:30 PM Dec 2021

Boofer boy cites landmark gay rights cases in argument about abortion restrictions

Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh seemed to suggest earlier this week that landmark LGBTQ cases could support overturning federal abortion rights.

The Supreme Court heard 90 minutes of oral arguments Wednesday concerning a Mississippi law that would ban almost all abortions in the state after 15 weeks of pregnancy.

A majority of the court’s conservative justices appeared prepared to uphold the law and possibly overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark decision holding that women have a constitutional right to have an abortion before fetal viability, usually around 24 weeks.

The crux of Wednesday’s oral arguments centered around whether the justices should preserve or walk back on precedent, a court decision that is considered authority for subsequent cases involving similar or identical circumstances. The court’s liberal justices warned that reversing a decades-old ruling would politicize the country’s highest court.

However, citing two landmark gay rights cases — Lawrence v. Texas, which struck down state laws criminalizing consensual same-sex activity in 2003, and Obergefell v. Hodges, which resulted in the legalization of same-sex marriage across the United States in 2015 — Kavanaugh suggested that overruling the court’s previous opinions was standard procedure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kavanaugh-cites-landmark-gay-rights-162938336.html

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Boofer boy cites landmark gay rights cases in argument about abortion restrictions (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
So typical of right wing tactics. These decisions that were overturned to expand rights Walleye Dec 2021 #1
"overruling" previous opinions moondust Dec 2021 #2
I agree with you 100%, but the right's argument will be femmedem Dec 2021 #4
Surely that has been discussed moondust Dec 2021 #7
Good point. femmedem Dec 2021 #8
Spewing Sophistry and Shite simultaneously pecosbob Dec 2021 #3
Just calling balls and strikes. dchill Dec 2021 #5
Kavenaugh has the mind of a. 8 yr. Old, just like all right wingers. Meadowoak Dec 2021 #6
Trying a little "divide and conquer" here? Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #9

Walleye

(31,027 posts)
1. So typical of right wing tactics. These decisions that were overturned to expand rights
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:34 PM
Dec 2021

I’ve never heard of a decision being over turn to restrict rights

moondust

(19,986 posts)
2. "overruling" previous opinions
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:35 PM
Dec 2021

to expand the rights of Americans is NOT the same as "overruling" previous opinions to take rights away from Americans.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
4. I agree with you 100%, but the right's argument will be
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:43 PM
Dec 2021

that overturning Roe would expand the rights of the unborn. It all boils down to a fundamental disagreement about whether fetuses are human and have human rights, or whether they are part of a woman's body over which she has control.

I'm completely pro-choice, but it is hard to sway someone who believes that fetuses are human beings who deserve human rights.

Edited to add: but this certainly contradicts his testimony that he gave under oath during his confirmation hearing.

moondust

(19,986 posts)
7. Surely that has been discussed
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 04:52 PM
Dec 2021

at length before, during, and since the 1973 ruling. Would that not constitute an issue that had to be "settled" before the ruling?

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
8. Good point.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:06 PM
Dec 2021

I assume so.

So that would be where Kavanaugh lied under oath about settled precedent. Yet if he believes that fetuses are full humans, then he would still think of this as expanding rights, consistent with overturning decisions that kept schools segregated or denied rights to the LGBTQ community.

Or maybe he is that misogynistic, regardless of what he believes about fetuses. So he is either a liar, a misogynist, or both.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
9. Trying a little "divide and conquer" here?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 05:10 PM
Dec 2021

Pitting supporters of abortion rights against supporters of LGBTQ rights?

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