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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet me see if I have this mass shooter story straight...
The kid takes dad's pistol to school and shoots random students. I don't want to say that happens all the time, but it's been done enough. The police question him.
Next thing we know there's a warrant for the parent's arrest. That never happened before that I know.
The parents, looking for all the world like they're guilty of something, lam it to avoid arrest and retain a lawyer.
Does it seem like the kid told the cops something damning about home life? I mean like the folks are involved in something way beyond shady and the boy blew the lid off of it.
Gun running? Embezzlement? Turnpike tolls? Maybe not that, but something heavy. Spies?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,346 posts)Beyond the fact that the parents were so willfully negligent of his condition and possible actions? No.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)She laid the entire case out.
Nothing the kid said; theyve got everything documented.
Dan
(3,562 posts)brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Trump (or any President) has no ability to Pardon for State convictions.
Dan
(3,562 posts)But I thought it was obvious
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Never mind the fact that the criminal will not be reinstalled. o
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)Walleye
(31,024 posts)AndyS
(14,559 posts)As opposed to just regular gunner stupidity . . .
iemanja
(53,032 posts)Even knowing how disturbed he was. This isn't a case of just getting ahold of Dad's gun.
I expect the school told the police about how the parents reacted. They also had the boy's cell phone with texts from his mom saying "just don't get caught," when he was found with ammo at school.
tblue37
(65,357 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)"help me" "the world is dead" Now why would he write that? What was going on with him? Clearly he was deeply disturbed. I want to know what the family dynamic was. Because there was something very very wrong in that household.
RockRaven
(14,967 posts)for ammo sales (each while at school and was caught doing so).
Mom's response was "learn not to get caught."
Dad's response was to buy a(nother) gun and allow him access to it.
The parents aren't being charged because of anything the killer told police about them. They're being charged because of what the school and cops already know about their role in the killings.
malaise
(269,004 posts)early Christmas present
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Spies
DeeNice
(575 posts)And no one with the guts or interest to intervene until it was too late. Maybe the parents thought he'd off himself and weren't too bothered by that. I don't know. Ignoring the signs and letting him have access to deadly weapons is bad enough and warrants the charges imho.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)and other people's kids paid the price
brush
(53,778 posts)sending him to school about covers it...and then disappearing of course.
bucolic_frolic
(43,166 posts)He was sent back to class. No one thought to search his backpack. Schools have to act as parents in their absence.
Goonch
(3,607 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)You might want to read a few articles to catch up on what happened.
First sentence - the gun was an early Christmas gift bought on Black Friday for the kid.
The kid had more red flags than a Communist party parade in China.
The parents were called to the school because of the kids multiple instances of basically saying through words and deeds "I'm going to shoot the fuck out of this place", and the parents blew it off.
This is not "kid takes dad's pistol". It is "Mom & Dad GIVE pistol to apparent psycho killer about which they had reason to know".
One example: The day before the shooting, the kid is found by a teacher to have been searching for ammunition online. There was already enough concern about his weird ass behavior that this received disciplinary attention. Upon being informed about what happened Mom texted him to be more careful not to get caught.
"Does it seem like the kid told the cops something damning about home life?"
Other than giving the kid a gun and keeping it accessible to him after being WARNED by the school there was something not right about him?
That's it - that's the "something damning".
XanaDUer2
(10,670 posts)ShazamIam
(2,571 posts)to kill other children.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)The saddest thing is the boy (killer) wrote "Help" among the other damning things that got the teacher's attention. A part of him wanted help out of this. He wanted to be stopped. He put the clues out there. i'm betting he made sure the teacher saw what he wrote. But no one stopped him.
SYFROYH
(34,170 posts)When the school let him back into class without searching his backpack or locker they in effect said he wasnt an imminent threat.
We dont know if the school asked about access to guns in the home.