Alexa, show me everything that's wrong with America in one photo

[Nevilledog]

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I won't share that Massie gun fetish tweet, but I will say that the right is trying not only to normalize, but to glorify violence as a political tool. Tweeting "Santa, please bring ammo" immediately after a would-be school shooter gets identified EXPRESSLY because he was...

caught searching for ammo on his phone in class isn't an accident, it's an intentional strategy to bombard us with violence until it's no longer shocking-- until it's normalized. Republicans applaud the insurrectionists as freedom warriors, they applaud Rittenhouse as a hero...

they applaud Ashli Babbitt as a martyr, they applaud Lauren Boebert's open Islamophobia even though it puts @IlhanMN's life at risk. This is a strategy to convince their supporters that violence is acceptable. And just like they resorted to violence after the Big Lie of 2020,

this is clearly part of a coordinated campaign to do it again in 2022 & 2024 if they lose. That's why ALL of this is coupled with more bogus election "audits," more stolen election rhetoric, more "voter integrity" laws, more purging of nonpartisan officials. It goes hand in hand.

Pretending like this is no big deal or burying our heads in the sand won't do anything to lower the temperature; it'll only leave us unprepared when more violence is inevitably born out of this. Willful ignorance is doing nothing to curb a trend that is boiling over on the right.

The media needs to stop pretending this is politics as usual, and the non-lunatic Republicans need to start putting the future of this country above their fear of a mean Trump press release. Or we'll look back at this moment wondering why we didn't step up when we had the chance.

[pnwest]

1. Oh, that needs Jesus painted into the background,

WITH angel wings and bathed in holy light, gazing at them lovingly while holding his arms wide to embrace them.

[Poiuyt]

36. I wonder what kind of assault rifle Jesus carried?

[Celerity]

51. holy ghost gun

for concealed carry Fridays

[calimary]

55. This looks like blasphemy.

"Blasphemy, according to the Catholic Church is 'speech, thought or action involving contempt for God or the Church, or persons or things dedicated to God' (Catechism of the Catholic Church, p. 868). ... If someone is found guilty of blasphemy the punishment is excommunication.Jul 11, 2017

[Celerity]

61. the RW christofascist gunners could not care less

[calimary]

66. Also looks like deep sickness.

Mental illness.

[leftieNanner]

2. Sick.

The two young women need to go back to shooting school. All the other people have their trigger fingers out straight.

[Casady1]

3. In real life

Massie is a pussy.

[soldierant]

13. Well, of course.

Who else needs a gun to feel complete?

(But I do woshe you'd say wuss.)

[DLevine]

42. No. He's a cowardly asshole. nt

[Casady1]

44. I would love to see someone

punch him and see how he reacts.

[Strelnikov_]

4. So people hunt deer today with . . .

M-60 machine guns, AR-15's, Sig-Sauer assault rifles and WWII Thompson knock-off's?

[captain queeg]

7. Yeah I spotted all those.

[DENVERPOPS]

14. What is the gun

that the girl has ????????????

[captain queeg]

53. That's the Thompson sub machine gun. Or at least a knockoff.

[Botany]

5. Those are all military or military knock off killing machines. Nobody outside of law enforcement,

... the military, or special duty security needs that kind of crap. I think the AK or AR the woman next to the
Xmas tree can fire a round that tumbles after it hits somebody which can cause so much shock and trauma
that you can die no matter where the round hits you.

Those people are sick. Odds are very good somebody in that picture will get shot or shoot somebody they know.


This is a pump action shotgun with a deer "slug tube" that can be used for hunting and if need be for home defense.



They last forever, they make a sound when you rack a shell that every thug knows means business, by OH
law you can only carry them with "a plug" in them that limits you to 3 shells, and you really don't have to be
accurate with them for home defense (which almost never happens).

[Dial H For Hero]

9. Oh, dear. The oft-repeated myth that you don't have to aim shotguns strikes again.

you really don't have to be accurate with them for home defense

Unless you wish to hit the target. Which is kind of the point of using a firearm in home defense.

[Hoyt]

11. You need to read the post again, Hero.

[Dial H For Hero]

15. Tell me, Hoyt, how far you think the shot from a short barreled shotgun will spread

if a homeowner is shooting a burglar at a range of 10 feet?

[PTWB]

21. That question demands a very inconvenient answer.

A shotgun is one of the worst choices for home defense. My guess is you'll hear only *crickets* from him.

[Hoyt]

29. Answered, below.

[PTWB]

31. No it wasn't.

"Not very far" is not an answer. The answer is that a standard 'defense' load of double-aught buck will spread about to about 1 inch to 1.5 inches at 10 feet and to about 2 to 2.5 inches at 30 feet.

The idea that the need to aim is reduced or eliminated with a shotgun is absolutely idiotic. Anyone who advocates for or practices such nonsense has no business owning or using a firearm.

Shotguns are a poor choice for home defense.

[Hoyt]

32. Like I said. Don't care about all the scenarios gunners have thought

about in their paranoia and gunner lore.

A shotgun is more than 99.999% of people will ever need. In fact, a pea-shooter is too.

Stop telling people they need to be armed to the teeth like you and Hero, when it’s paranoid, irresponsible gunner BS.

[PTWB]

35. For someone who claims not to like guns...

It sure seems like you fantasize about guns and gun owners in every gun related thread! I'm definitely not judging you for the cringe cutsey pet names you bestow upon the targets of said fantasies. (Not much, anyway!)

That said, some of the misinformation you've been posting is dangerous.

One of the golden rules of gun safety is to know what is directly behind your target and beyond. Do you have X-Ray vision?

Shotguns are a poor choice for home defense because they are more dangerous than dedicated home defense weapons with dedicated home defense ammunition. If you shoot buckshot (or god forbid, a slug) at your target it is going to pass through your target, through several walls (and anything in between those walls), and could easily travel into the neighbor's house and through some of their walls. That's simply not acceptable and your advocation of such is irresponsible.

High quality ammunition designed not to over penetrate is an infinitely better choice for home defense. You can get such ammunition in numerous calibers and for numerous platforms, including your standard pistols and AR.

In addition, you're supporting a claim that shotguns require little aim to be effective, despite being admonished from people who actually are familiar with the subject that said claim is both incorrect and incredibly dangerous.

Surely you don't want to post and advocate for dangerous misinformation, right?

[Hoyt]

37. LMAO. More gunner BS.

[PTWB]

38. That's what I thought.

Sad but predictable. Better luck next time!

[LiberatedUSA]

62. Not even 99.999%. People only need two things.

They need a good eye for judging distance and a good supply of canned food. You got yourself those two things, and you got yourself a real nice home defense for knocking down intruders.

[Hoyt]

28. Not very far, but he said you don't have to be as accurate. You have your opinions

about gunz, probably derived from years of needing to strap on a gun or two, and maybe body-armor, to walk down the street, and Hero-Wannabism is obvious too. Plus, you hang with gunners.

For those reasons, I really don’t care what your opinions are about gunz, including your perspective on which gun is best for every possible application in the world of Gungeoneer fear.. Further, the odds of needing a gun is virtually zero for the vast majority of people.

[Dial H For Hero]

56. You need to read the post again, Hoyt. He didn't say "as accurate", he said

you "don't have to be accurate with them".

derived from years of needing to strap on a gun or two, and maybe body-armor, to walk down the street, and Hero-Wannabism is obvious

Did I ever saw that I've been carrying concealed or wearing body armor? (Answer: no)

As for my username, I have at this point lost track of how many times I've told you that it's based on a silly 1960's comic book. One would think you would have remembered by now.

Regarding opinions about firearms, I'll hold up my knowledge against yours any day, although I will grant that you do have the life experience of being (by your own admission) a former robber....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=45338

[Hoyt]

58. You are a Hero wannabe and, yes, a toter. Your link also is further evidence that you can't read or

comprehend.

[Dial H For Hero]

59. Hm...seem to have struck a nerve, there. As for the link, allow illustrate:

You said (and I quote): As a former robber, I locked the door to keep people out, especially police.

Oh, dear.

[Hoyt]

60. Again, you missed the point -- then posting under another name and now -- that gunners and Hero

wannabes are just looking for an excuse to shoot someone, just like Rittenhouse, also another hero-wannabe.

If you truly want to be a Hero, carry a defibrillator, you are much more likely to need that.

[Dial H For Hero]

63. The post wherein you mention your former occupation of being a robber links to your profile.

[Hoyt]

64. Back when you were using another user name.

[Dial H For Hero]

65. Really? And what would that be?

[Botany]

30. I have hunted, owned, and used that exact kind of shotgun for years.

Stuff:

The # of cases of people who need to defend their home against somebody breaking in is really small.

I have long sense given up the idea that I could get to my shotgun, get it out of its case, load it,
and get the drop on the bad guy. I would never keep a loaded gun in my house. I had a son in my house
and now a granddaughter who spends time here. BTW I have 100 lb dog and a baseball bat.

If you own a gun and that gun is fired in anger it is something like > 85% of the time that it
will be used on you or somebody you know.

And yes, you really don't have to be that accurate w/a shot gun. I was told by a friend who was a SWAT officer
that a shotgun is the go to home defense weapon.

Although after Sandy Hook my interest in hunting and shooting has fallen way off.

[Hoyt]

40. Recommend your post.

[NickB79]

49. SWAT doesn't use shotguns anymore though

They've all transitioned to AR's and 9mm carbines.

They figured out years ago that shotguns aren't great for indoor shooting scenarios, and adopted better tech. Small mag capacity, excessive muzzle blast, slow to reload, heavy recoil all make a shotgun a poor choice for home defense IMO.

[LiberatedUSA]

46. So let me if I understanding you correctly.

The only people who should have the weapons we feel are only good for mass murder, are cops we spent all of 2020 protesting all over the country for murdering people.

That makes sense.

[spanone]

6. This isn't the fucking Onion????

[Nevilledog]

34. Nope, but rumor has it this wasn't the only Xmas picture they took...

[spanone]

41. Bwhahahahahahaaa...

[luckone]

8. Too many Americans give people like this privilege and give their displays a pass, deem not unusual

at all. What gets their eyes open ? It’s selective

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[moondust]

10. The tools

of quick and easy death and disability make such a joyful Christmas message.

The idiot has a master's degree from MIT.

[llmart]

12. I'm at a total loss for words to describe how despicable this picture is.

Do they have no shame? I wonder if that little girl ever got shot in the face at school if they'd be beaming like that?

I hope none of the parents of the four dead students from my area ever see this picture.

F*** them all!

[DENVERPOPS]

19. Couldn't agree more............

As an EMT I have taken care of kids with gunshot wounds, there is nothing to smile about or any glory like these dumb shits portray.

I constantly wonder about the human race.......................

[calimary]

25. Despicable is only for starters.

This is a HIDEOUS picture. Featuring downright HIDEOUS people. Smiling family of accidents waiting to happen. Glad I don't know 'em, and I'd stay FAR FAR FAR away from them if I had the gross misfortune to know them.

And I'll bet they'll tell you they're all "pro-life."

Despicable, detestable, deplorable, and disgusting. And that's only the "D's".

[In It to Win It]

16. Pure political theater

[Traildogbob]

17. No longer referred to

As ammo. NRA is blasting media with Christmas adds pushing as gifts what they now are calling Freedom Seeds”. Looking at that family of assholes, they never stepped a foot into a rugged terrain forest, to actually hunt for a meal. Those are ALL urban killing machine. Meant for people to be on the receiving end of Freedom Seeds.
Fuck a bunch of murf and incense from three kings. Give the baby Jesus guns and Freedom Seeds.

[Progressive Jones]

24. Ammosexuals HATE being called ammosexuals. That's why I do it. nt

[PTWB]

18. There's a lot more wrong with America than what's depicted in this photo.

[Progressive Jones]

23. Let's see how accepting of violence they are when and if they fully get out of line.

There will be numerous "victims" among them.

[Rhiannon12866]

26. Twitter reply:

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[FakeNoose]

27. Kicking with disgust

[ismnotwasm]

33. Someone on Reddit pointed out that that is thousands and thousands of dollars on display

Guns, sure, but not just every 2A yahoo can pull this off. So not only are they assholes, they are assholes with a lot of disposable income. Typical.

[greenjar_01]

39. Gun fanatics are terrible people

[Tickle]

43. I hope they

didn't leave any animals behind and if they did I hope someone is there to take them to a rescue

[LizBeth]

45. People send family photos, I would put up with cards sent. I would throw this one away.

I do not care who the loved ones are, in my home decorating with Christmas, I am not doing guns.

[Mr. Sparkle]

47. Dear God, words fail me!

All i see is a bunch of weak pathetic scummy individuals.

[dalton99a]

48. Pro-life white Christian family ready to spread their freedom seeds to honor Jesus

Sick fucks

[Norbert]

50. Y'all Qaeda.

This jackass lives waaaaay too close to me.

[GoCubsGo]

52. Exposing their dicks in public for their Xmas cards.

It's the Republican way.

[gulliver]

54. It's just like the "Punisher" gopher skulls on cars and upside-down flags

A provocative statement. In this case, it's just WWE posturing.

[AngryOldDem]

57. Saw this pic alongside a similarly posed one of Afghan extremists.

Caption: One is patriotic, the other, terrorist.

Can’t argue with that.

[Larissa]

67. America's mental health problem

Very rarely, if ever, is the issue of guns in America examined in the context of mental health. More Americans kill themselves with guns than by any other method. More Americans take their own life with guns then there are Americans murdered by guns. Below is useful information regarding suicide, published by the Wyoming health department. It's one of the more comprehensive info sheets on suicide that I've seen. And that may be because Wyoming has a high suicide rate. Suicide is an exponential problem because -- as the Wyoming fact sheet articulates: "Surviving the loss of a loved one to suicide is a risk factor for suicide. Studies estimate that for every one suicide, there is anywhere from 6 to 32 people left as suicide survivors, which most studies agree is an underestimate."

https://health.wyo.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/suicide-2018-factsheet.pdf

Guns and Suicide: The Hidden Toll
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/guns-suicide/

Far more people (in the United States) kill themselves with a firearm each year than are murdered with one. In 2010 in the U.S., 19,392 people committed suicide with guns, compared with 11,078 who were killed by others.